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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    Bovidae
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    WEEK 7: Mitre 10 Cup Downer Match Appointments:

    Otago v Northland
    Friday 23 October
    7.05pm, Forsyth Barr Stadium
    Downer Referee: Mike Fraser
    Assistants: Jono Bredin & Oliver Hadfield

    Bay of Plenty v Canterbury
    Saturday 24 October
    2.05pm, Tauranga Domain
    Downer Referee: Cam Stone
    Assistants: Sam Fellows & Cam Russell

    Hawke’s Bay v Manawatu (Ranfurly Shield)
    Saturday 24 October
    4.35pm, McLean Park Napier
    Downer Referee: Nick Briant
    Assistants: Hugh Reed & Stu Catley

    North Harbour v Auckland
    Saturday 24 October
    7.05pm, North Harbour Stadium
    Downer Referee: Richard Kelly
    Assistants: Kyle Lagerwall & Scott McKenzie

    Ta$man v Southland
    Sunday 25 October
    2.05pm, Trafalgar Park Nelson
    Downer Referee: James Doleman
    Assistants: Tom Holohan & Aidan Barnett

    Counties Manukau v Wellington
    Sunday 25 October
    2.05pm, Navigation Homes Stadium Pukekohe
    Downer Referee: Dan Waenga
    Assistants: Brandon Roberts & Robert Shore

    Waikato v Taranaki
    Sunday 18 October
    4.35pm, FMG Stadium Waikato
    Downer Referee: Angus Mabey
    Assistants: Michael Winter & Grant Stuart

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      Richard Kelly?

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        He has been on the IRB World Series 7s Circuit for the last couple of years. Refs out of Taranaki.

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          He has been on the IRB World Series 7s Circuit for the last couple of years. Refs out of Taranaki.

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          @Higgins said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

          He has been on the IRB World Series 7s Circuit for the last couple of years. Refs out of Taranaki.

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            @Higgins said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

            He has been on the IRB World Series 7s Circuit for the last couple of years. Refs out of Taranaki.

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            @Chris said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

            @Higgins said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

            He has been on the IRB World Series 7s Circuit for the last couple of years. Refs out of Taranaki.

            Is that where he has been on the 7s circuit he was doing some mitre10 cup awhile ago.

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              #3210

              Waikato avoid Stone and Pickerill. Good stuff.

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                Waikato avoid Stone and Pickerill. Good stuff.

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                @Yeetyaah said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                Waikato avoid Stone and Pickerill. Good stuff.

                And we get Stone again FFS

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                  @Yeetyaah said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                  Waikato avoid Stone and Pickerill. Good stuff.

                  And we get Stone again FFS

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                  African Monkey
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                  @Chris Fair enough too. The shit teams (especially Canterbury) get given substandard refs 😉

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                    @Chris Fair enough too. The shit teams (especially Canterbury) get given substandard refs 😉

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                    @African-Monkey said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                    @Chris Fair enough too. The shit teams (especially Canterbury) get given substandard refs 😉

                    Haha seems to be the way

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                      @Bovidae said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                      Downer Referee: James Doleman

                      Are they trying to depress people?!!

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                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                        @Bovidae said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                        Downer Referee: James Doleman

                        Are they trying to depress people?!!

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                        @Chris-B said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                        Are they trying to depress people?!!

                        At risk of looking like a @mariner4life post with this:

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                        Most refs are downers if truth be told, but a necessary evil.

                        Doleman is a bit unfortunate too - how long out of work?

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                          Comments from Boshier.

                          “I tell you what, it’s been a long year, stringing 80s [minutes] every week is definitely taking its toll,” he said. “Working on putting a bit of size on isn’t really a focus at the moment, it’s just trying to get through.
                          “It sort of takes me three or four days to recover after every game now. And even though we had that break off over Covid, we’re still training hard and it felt like a second pre-season. So it’s actually been a bloody long year physically and mentally."
                          

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300141063/overlooked-and-overcooked-lachlan-boshier-on-his-all-blacks-anguish

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                            Not too smart of Boshier to publicly say that he disagrees with the AB selectors re his playing weight.

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                              Not too smart of Boshier to publicly say that he disagrees with the AB selectors re his playing weight.

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                              @akan004 Players know the weight their body best operates at and Boshier may be quite happy playing the way he does now . To put on more weight to meet the selectors desires could turn him into another plodder and change his current effectiveness . Witness Vaea Fifita who they managed to turn into a plodder, far removed from the wide ranging free running guy we saw when he first bust onto the scene six or seven years back..

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                                'being physically and mentally spent' from the season is also a reason not to pick him for 4 tests in 5 weeks!

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                                  @akan004 Players know the weight their body best operates at and Boshier may be quite happy playing the way he does now . To put on more weight to meet the selectors desires could turn him into another plodder and change his current effectiveness . Witness Vaea Fifita who they managed to turn into a plodder, far removed from the wide ranging free running guy we saw when he first bust onto the scene six or seven years back..

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                                  @Higgins I agree although I do also see where the selectors are coming from, he needs to be more physical imo. What I am saying is whatever he thinks of his ideal playing weight it's best to keep it to himself. It's never a good idea to disagree with your employers publicly.

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                                    @Higgins I agree although I do also see where the selectors are coming from, he needs to be more physical imo. What I am saying is whatever he thinks of his ideal playing weight it's best to keep it to himself. It's never a good idea to disagree with your employers publicly.

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                                    @akan004 maybe he should go play for England like shields

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                                      'being physically and mentally spent' from the season is also a reason not to pick him for 4 tests in 5 weeks!

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                                      #3222

                                      @Machpants I expect they (the selectors) have access to all the data about players, or can get certain players tracked in M10 to see how they are tracking post Super?

                                      So maybe they had seen a drop off or that his body was struggling to keep up (working harder each week)

                                      Tom Robinson is another who many thought the selectors had a close eye on, and maybe they are just wanting him to get through a full season without injury, before introducing him to the highest level?

                                      Or are we giving the coaches too much credit :face_with_tears_of_joy:

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                                      • A akan004

                                        @Higgins I agree although I do also see where the selectors are coming from, he needs to be more physical imo. What I am saying is whatever he thinks of his ideal playing weight it's best to keep it to himself. It's never a good idea to disagree with your employers publicly.

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                                        @akan004 was he disagreeing? I thought Boshier was meaning he was not able to work on adding weight at this point in time, given the time of season, recovery sessions etc.

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                                        • HigginsH Higgins

                                          @akan004 Players know the weight their body best operates at and Boshier may be quite happy playing the way he does now . To put on more weight to meet the selectors desires could turn him into another plodder and change his current effectiveness . Witness Vaea Fifita who they managed to turn into a plodder, far removed from the wide ranging free running guy we saw when he first bust onto the scene six or seven years back..

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                                          @Higgins same goes with Asafo Aumua. I feel they added too much size to him too early and he lost that pure power and speed he had when he first burst onto the scene.

                                          I feel like he's only just getting some of that back as he naturally matures.

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