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Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October

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  • NTAN NTA

    Pissed off. About 40 of us at Renegades Rugby got tickets for $89 and now our associate union got hold of $49 😐

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    @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

    Pissed off. About 40 of us at Renegades Rugby got tickets for $89 and now our associate union got hold of $49 😐

    As you should be, we've held out to see what the Brumbies can do for us, but I'm going riding that weekend so won't be attending.

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    • Chris B.C Chris B.

      Isn't Beauden only scheduled to miss Super rugby - i.e. he'll be back for the international fixtures (well, maybe not any June internationals)?

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/122022760/beauden-barrett-confirms-his-japan-sabbatical-blues-adamant-its-no-surprise

      I hope we lock up the Bledisloe this weekend, especially so that Fozzie can take a bit more license with his selections (which, I'm more interested to see than any anxiety-inducing winner takes all fixture).

      Barring injury and including Aaaron Smith, I'd think the team Hooroo named is nailed in for this weekend.

      Plus (assuming everyone is fit and I haven't missed any babies) a bench of Hodgman, Taylor, Lomax, Vaa'i, Papali'i, TJ, Ioane, DMac. (Edit: sort of Snap gt12 - Laulala's on paternity leave, isn't he?).

      Also edit - it will be Scott Barrett on the bench...

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      @Chris-B said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

      Isn't Beauden only scheduled to miss Super rugby - i.e. he'll be back for the international fixtures (well, maybe not any June internationals)?

      Lol June internationals.

      1. They won't happen
      2. They're now July
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      • NTAN NTA

        Pissed off. About 40 of us at Renegades Rugby got tickets for $89 and now our associate union got hold of $49 😐

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        @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

        Pissed off. About 40 of us at Renegades Rugby got tickets for $89 and now our associate union got hold of $49 😐

        Looks like I've just scored $49 tickets for me, mate, and our tribe. Looking forward to freezing my nuts off and drinking water beer from plastic cups

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        • voodooV voodoo

          @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

          Pissed off. About 40 of us at Renegades Rugby got tickets for $89 and now our associate union got hold of $49 😐

          Looks like I've just scored $49 tickets for me, mate, and our tribe. Looking forward to freezing my nuts off and drinking water beer from plastic cups

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          @voodoo said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

          @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

          Pissed off. About 40 of us at Renegades Rugby got tickets for $89 and now our associate union got hold of $49 😐

          Looks like I've just scored $49 tickets for me, mate, and our tribe. Looking forward to freezing my nuts off and drinking water beer from plastic cups

          In a giant mausoleum

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          • NTAN NTA

            @voodoo said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

            @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

            Pissed off. About 40 of us at Renegades Rugby got tickets for $89 and now our associate union got hold of $49 😐

            Looks like I've just scored $49 tickets for me, mate, and our tribe. Looking forward to freezing my nuts off and drinking water beer from plastic cups

            In a giant mausoleum

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            @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

            @voodoo said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

            @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

            Pissed off. About 40 of us at Renegades Rugby got tickets for $89 and now our associate union got hold of $49 😐

            Looks like I've just scored $49 tickets for me, mate, and our tribe. Looking forward to freezing my nuts off and drinking water beer from plastic cups

            In a giant mausoleum

            That takes at least an hour to drive to from my house, and closer to 90 mins to do the ferry/train that we will actually do

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            • voodooV voodoo

              @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

              @voodoo said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

              @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

              Pissed off. About 40 of us at Renegades Rugby got tickets for $89 and now our associate union got hold of $49 😐

              Looks like I've just scored $49 tickets for me, mate, and our tribe. Looking forward to freezing my nuts off and drinking water beer from plastic cups

              In a giant mausoleum

              That takes at least an hour to drive to from my house, and closer to 90 mins to do the ferry/train that we will actually do

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              @voodoo yeah we're heading in as a group and there is a discussion around Uber versus public transport.

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                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300143311/all-blacks-vs-australia-we-aim-to-play-a-lot-better--john-plumtrees-wallaby-warning

                Plumtree confirmed in Sydney on Tuesday that on the back of a couple of hitouts since arriving for their Tri-Nations campaign, which opens with the second half of the four-match Bledisloe Cup series, all 36 players were in the selection picture for this week.

                The All Blacks will have at least one key selection call to make this week, with in-form loose forward Ardie Savea remaining behind in New Zealand on paternity leave. Standout young Auckland and Blues No 8 Hoskins Sotutu is considered the firm favourite to step into the starting lineup on that back of a breakthrough season and two appearances off the bench in the first two contests.

                But Plumtree made it clear that whoever was chosen in the team to be announced on Thursday, there would be no expectation on them to replicate Savea’s unique style of hyper-aggressive and athletic play.

                “It’s not really a challenge as such for whoever comes in,” said Plumtree. “The players we’ve got to take Ardie’s place, we’ve got a lot of faith and trust in. They’ll bring a different skillset. We’ve got Dalton Papalii and Hokins Sotutu who are both excellent players. We’ve got Akira Ioane who had a great Super Rugby season as well. We’ve got some powerful players to replace Ardie.

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                • NTAN NTA

                  @voodoo yeah we're heading in as a group and there is a discussion around Uber versus public transport.

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                  @NTA my lad loves the atmosphere of the train, it does add to the fun of it. And I can drink beers on the ferry which is a nice start to the outing

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                    I wouldn’t mind Jordan on the bench for D-Mac

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                    • D Dolamite

                      I wouldn’t mind Jordan on the bench for D-Mac

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                      @Dolamite I'll be disappointed if we don't get a good look at Jordan.

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                        I don't think there will be too many changes for this test. Win here, and they can give some new players an opportunity in BC 4. More likely to see the newbies in the Arg games though.

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                        • KirwanK Kirwan

                          @Duluth said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                          @Kirwan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                          BB showed in the last test he has to start, took a lot of the workload off of Ritchie and his pace creates opportunities.

                          Whats the better 10/15 combo? RM/BB or BB/JB?

                          I prefer the later but I think the coaches are worried about next year. But who knows what happens next year? Ioane could mount a serious challenge to Mo'unga (and I suspect his game is better suited to Test rugby)

                          BB/JB IMO. If RM needs BB selected at fullback so we can have a functioning backline, then he's not the answer at 10.

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                          @Kirwan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                          @Duluth said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                          @Kirwan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                          BB showed in the last test he has to start, took a lot of the workload off of Ritchie and his pace creates opportunities.

                          Whats the better 10/15 combo? RM/BB or BB/JB?

                          I prefer the later but I think the coaches are worried about next year. But who knows what happens next year? Ioane could mount a serious challenge to Mo'unga (and I suspect his game is better suited to Test rugby)

                          BB/JB IMO. If RM needs BB selected at fullback so we can have a functioning backline, then he's not the answer at 10.

                          I don’t thin Foster, Fox or any of the coaches have said Mo’unga needs Barrett selected.

                          But having someone with the class of Barrett in the backline is going to make a difference, especially when the forwards have a bit more ascendency too.

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                          • voodooV voodoo

                            @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                            Pissed off. About 40 of us at Renegades Rugby got tickets for $89 and now our associate union got hold of $49 😐

                            Looks like I've just scored $49 tickets for me, mate, and our tribe. Looking forward to freezing my nuts off and drinking water beer from plastic cups

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                            @voodoo said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                            @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                            Pissed off. About 40 of us at Renegades Rugby got tickets for $89 and now our associate union got hold of $49 😐

                            Looks like I've just scored $49 tickets for me, mate, and our tribe. Looking forward to freezing my nuts off and drinking water beer from plastic cups

                            At least you only paid $49 and not $200.

                            😡

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                            • NepiaN Nepia

                              @voodoo said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                              @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                              Pissed off. About 40 of us at Renegades Rugby got tickets for $89 and now our associate union got hold of $49 😐

                              Looks like I've just scored $49 tickets for me, mate, and our tribe. Looking forward to freezing my nuts off and drinking water beer from plastic cups

                              At least you only paid $49 and not $200.

                              😡

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                              @Nepia said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                              @voodoo said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                              @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                              Pissed off. About 40 of us at Renegades Rugby got tickets for $89 and now our associate union got hold of $49 😐

                              Looks like I've just scored $49 tickets for me, mate, and our tribe. Looking forward to freezing my nuts off and drinking water beer from plastic cups

                              At least you only paid $49 and not $200.

                              😡

                              There is that! Sorry bro...

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                              • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                @Kirwan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                @Duluth said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                @Kirwan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                BB showed in the last test he has to start, took a lot of the workload off of Ritchie and his pace creates opportunities.

                                Whats the better 10/15 combo? RM/BB or BB/JB?

                                I prefer the later but I think the coaches are worried about next year. But who knows what happens next year? Ioane could mount a serious challenge to Mo'unga (and I suspect his game is better suited to Test rugby)

                                BB/JB IMO. If RM needs BB selected at fullback so we can have a functioning backline, then he's not the answer at 10.

                                I don’t thin Foster, Fox or any of the coaches have said Mo’unga needs Barrett selected.

                                But having someone with the class of Barrett in the backline is going to make a difference, especially when the forwards have a bit more ascendency too.

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                                @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                @Kirwan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                @Duluth said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                @Kirwan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                BB showed in the last test he has to start, took a lot of the workload off of Ritchie and his pace creates opportunities.

                                Whats the better 10/15 combo? RM/BB or BB/JB?

                                I prefer the later but I think the coaches are worried about next year. But who knows what happens next year? Ioane could mount a serious challenge to Mo'unga (and I suspect his game is better suited to Test rugby)

                                BB/JB IMO. If RM needs BB selected at fullback so we can have a functioning backline, then he's not the answer at 10.

                                I don’t thin Foster, Fox or any of the coaches have said Mo’unga needs Barrett selected.

                                But having someone with the class of Barrett in the backline is going to make a difference, especially when the forwards have a bit more ascendency too.

                                Never said they did, was just my opinion about how dominant BB is when he’s in the team. Does a lot of talking and organising, gets the team around the park. Like a ten should be.

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  what i find amusing is, there is this notion that you can either diffuse bombs or you can't.

                                  Look across the Ta$man to the other code. League wingers are athletes selected for their finishing ability. Every singe one of them is good under the high ball, because they have to be given the nature of red zone attack.

                                  Perhaps, and this is a crazy idea i know, but perhaps, our coaches could fucking do their job and teach players a new skill?

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                                  @mariner4life said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                  what i find amusing is, there is this notion that you can either diffuse bombs or you can't.

                                  Look across the Ta$man to the other code. League wingers are athletes selected for their finishing ability. Every singe one of them is good under the high ball, because they have to be given the nature of red zone attack.

                                  Perhaps, and this is a crazy idea i know, but perhaps, our coaches could fucking do their job and teach players a new skill?

                                  Perhaps get lateral and hire an Aussie Rules skills coach?

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                                    Trying to extract some central wisdom from the above (and pardon me for drinking non-alcohol malt as not used to brain cells rubbing together) but it sounds IMO that it is actually RM vs JB?
                                    Ie BB sounds like a definite pick, the question is where.
                                    JB is not a weapon (currently) anywhere but 15 (possibly). None of the 3 currently are kicking that well consistently (DMac doesn't seem to be used for conversions).
                                    Therefore
                                    play RM/BB or BB/JB. Put a winger on the wing.
                                    Midfield: stop stuffing AB around, he seems to be the continual sacrificial victim at 13 or SMB (safe mesito boy)/underrated glue player at 12. But he is better at 12 than JG and they aren't playing JG at 13 (so I don't understand what is happening).
                                    Either play ALB at 12 JG at 13 or think again. Midfield should be a polished, glistening, hardcore rock by now.

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                                      Another question: should they be thinking and working towards the next RWC team?
                                      Or are the three amigos (Cider Tapwater and Chardonnay) just trying to impress by the end of their contract through not undertaking anything too risky (read: strategy, cojones, creativity or invention).

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                                      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                        Another question: should they be thinking and working towards the next RWC team?
                                        Or are the three amigos (Cider Tapwater and Chardonnay) just trying to impress by the end of their contract through not undertaking anything too risky (read: strategy, cojones, creativity or invention).

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                                        @nostrildamus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                        Another question: should they be thinking and working towards the next RWC team?
                                        Or are the three amigos (Cider Tapwater and Chardonnay) just trying to impress by the end of their contract through not undertaking anything too risky (read: strategy, cojones, creativity or invention).

                                        I guess we only have history to go by when it comes to RWC build ups.

                                        So new coaching team after a RWC campaign that we lost the previous year and that coach was there for the next RWC - eg Henry in 2004, John Hart 1996.

                                        That first squad Henry selected in 2004 (England series) had some players that stayed on to 2007 RWC but many didn’t. Many in Hart’s 96 squad retired in the cycle and the 99 (never happened...) RWC squad was quite different.

                                        So you play for the here and now, knowing that some will likely be still around and others may not and there will be newbies.

                                        If you’ve got players right now in that 21-25 yo age range now, you would hope that that come 2023 they will have 30 odd more tests under their belt and really hitting their straps.

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                                          The Hart era is often seen as an anomaly but then there was Mitchell and, possibly, Foster?
                                          I could be wrong but think AB fan sentiment oriented more to pick the best team at the time but now with the increasing number of strong competitors more fans might want to have a more long-range RWC-targeted team selection strategy?

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