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Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October

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  • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

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    @Daffy-Jaffy TJ almost seemed a bit flat, he warmed up towards the end, but he was pretty dead pan which is unusual for him.

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      looking at the stats, it should have been closer

      https://www.espn.com.au/rugby/matchstats?gameId=592923&league=289274

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      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

        looking at the stats, it should have been closer

        https://www.espn.com.au/rugby/matchstats?gameId=592923&league=289274

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        @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

        looking at the stats, it should have been closer

        https://www.espn.com.au/rugby/matchstats?gameId=592923&league=289274

        It's not just the errors, it is where they occurred on the field.

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          @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

          looking at the stats, it should have been closer

          https://www.espn.com.au/rugby/matchstats?gameId=592923&league=289274

          It's not just the errors, it is where they occurred on the field.

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          @NTA yeah I know stats dont always tell the story.

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          • VirgilV Virgil

            No idea if this will work, an oldie but such a goodie..
            From 2018..

            @Virgil said in Bledisloe I:

            Pinched from Facebook..

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            @Virgil said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

            No idea if this will work, an oldie but such a goodie..
            From 2018..

            @Virgil said in Bledisloe I:

            Pinched from Facebook..

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            @NTA this is soooooo @Virgil

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            • BonesB Bones

              Random thoughts in no particular order.

              Frizzel got stopped a few times eh, but really happy with his game. His workrate was immense, I'd be really interested in seeing stats for carries/tackles/rucks. In saying that, be interested to see what the other options can do now and if they'll be as amazeballs as all the Frizzel knockers think they'll be.

              Really wish we could move on from Perenara. Or he could move on from being an egg and at least try and concentrate on being good at rugby instead of being good at arsehole. When the ref is saying to you, very shortly after running on the field "don't shout at me like that", maybe it's time to pull your head in. Hopefully someone like Roe can advance next year.

              Coles, locks, Cane, Smith, Mounga, Clarke, ALB all awesome. Very comfortable starting debut from Sotutu and solid from Tuungafasi and Beauds. Pretty mixed bag from Jordie, but still a lot better than yesteryear.

              Seems I'm out of touch on the officials, thought bok was very good and the cards were fair, as well as tmo.

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              @Bones said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

              Random thoughts in no particular order.

              Frizzel got stopped a few times eh, but really happy with his game. His workrate was immense, I'd be really interested in seeing stats for carries/tackles/rucks. In saying that, be interested to see what the other options can do now and if they'll be as amazeballs as all the Frizzel knockers think they'll be.

              Topped the tackle count on both stats websites.

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              • canefanC canefan

                @voodoo said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                Man ANZ is a terrible stadium for fans.

                The food is a fucking disgrace. Every single outlet sells the same shit - pies, chips, and hotdogs. You couldn't even get a pizza if you wanted, let alone some noodles or sushi or a decent burger. Imagine all the Asian cafe/restaurant owners who would love a crack at setting up in one of the kitchen to roll out awesome noodle/rice dishes at HT, could all be pre-prepared, pre-ordered, pre-paid for easy collection at HT.

                At HT I queued up at one of the coffee bars for 15mins to get the kids a hot chocolate, only to be told they don't do hot chocolates. Only positive there was that I missed the Wallaby try, and if I didn't see it it didn't happen... 👊

                I see the attendance was only 26k, thats pretty disappointing even given the weather.

                Not much different from grounds in NZ, where the peak culinary offering is probably a Fritz's weiner

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                @canefan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                @voodoo said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                Man ANZ is a terrible stadium for fans.

                The food is a fucking disgrace. Every single outlet sells the same shit - pies, chips, and hotdogs. You couldn't even get a pizza if you wanted, let alone some noodles or sushi or a decent burger. Imagine all the Asian cafe/restaurant owners who would love a crack at setting up in one of the kitchen to roll out awesome noodle/rice dishes at HT, could all be pre-prepared, pre-ordered, pre-paid for easy collection at HT.

                At HT I queued up at one of the coffee bars for 15mins to get the kids a hot chocolate, only to be told they don't do hot chocolates. Only positive there was that I missed the Wallaby try, and if I didn't see it it didn't happen... 👊

                I see the attendance was only 26k, thats pretty disappointing even given the weather.

                Not much different from grounds in NZ, where the peak culinary offering is probably a Fritz's weiner

                I had delicious Vietnamese a couple of years ago at Bay Oval, although it was the summer.

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                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                  @Bones said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                  Random thoughts in no particular order.

                  Frizzel got stopped a few times eh, but really happy with his game. His workrate was immense, I'd be really interested in seeing stats for carries/tackles/rucks. In saying that, be interested to see what the other options can do now and if they'll be as amazeballs as all the Frizzel knockers think they'll be.

                  Topped the tackle count on both stats websites.

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                  @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                  @Bones said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                  Random thoughts in no particular order.

                  Frizzel got stopped a few times eh, but really happy with his game. His workrate was immense, I'd be really interested in seeing stats for carries/tackles/rucks. In saying that, be interested to see what the other options can do now and if they'll be as amazeballs as all the Frizzel knockers think they'll be.

                  Topped the tackle count on both stats websites.

                  High up for carries as well. Is there anywhere that does breakdown stats?

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                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                    @pakman said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                    @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                    @pakman said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                    I was ambiguous. I meant alternative to Simmons at lock.

                    🤔

                    Trevor Hosea who is 20.

                    How’d you rate him?

                    He was impressive in Super Rugby Au. Good mobility and good physicality.

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                    @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                    @pakman said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                    @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                    @pakman said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                    I was ambiguous. I meant alternative to Simmons at lock.

                    🤔

                    Trevor Hosea who is 20.

                    How’d you rate him?

                    He was impressive in Super Rugby Au. Good mobility and good physicality.

                    Might be with a try off bench?

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                      @Bones said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                      Random thoughts in no particular order.

                      Frizzel got stopped a few times eh, but really happy with his game. His workrate was immense, I'd be really interested in seeing stats for carries/tackles/rucks. In saying that, be interested to see what the other options can do now and if they'll be as amazeballs as all the Frizzel knockers think they'll be.

                      Topped the tackle count on both stats websites.

                      High up for carries as well. Is there anywhere that does breakdown stats?

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                      @Bones said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                      @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                      @Bones said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                      Random thoughts in no particular order.

                      Frizzel got stopped a few times eh, but really happy with his game. His workrate was immense, I'd be really interested in seeing stats for carries/tackles/rucks. In saying that, be interested to see what the other options can do now and if they'll be as amazeballs as all the Frizzel knockers think they'll be.

                      Topped the tackle count on both stats websites.

                      High up for carries as well. Is there anywhere that does breakdown stats?

                      I just don't trust any of these stats, makes you wonder whose numbers the coaches use. For the fatties, I know they track closely dominant tackles , first 3 to breakdowns, repeat efforts, gain line breaches amongst other stuff.

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                        @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                        @Machpants nah I reckon he knew he was on hhe wrong side and thought if he gave it to us he avoids a penalty.

                        On big Karl, yea looked like he is placing it back for the 9, which was pretty luck really cos if he doesnt score himself with 3 men outside....

                        I was just so happy when he caught the ball ! I think it would have been asking too much for him to pass as well!

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                        @DMX said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                        @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                        @Machpants nah I reckon he knew he was on hhe wrong side and thought if he gave it to us he avoids a penalty.

                        On big Karl, yea looked like he is placing it back for the 9, which was pretty luck really cos if he doesnt score himself with 3 men outside....

                        I was just so happy when he caught the ball ! I think it would have been asking too much for him to pass as well!

                        Expect there’s still some nerves. Karl’s route to top hasn’t involved anywhere near as much top rugby as others. I think he was happy to catch, saw a massive hole which he took with aplomb, but wasn’t alert to what was outside him.

                        Had been training for battering ram role all week.

                        Hope they have a gentle word to him.

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                          Opta is the go to for stats, and who most rugby teams use I believe.

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                            @pakman Tupou was just standing up at scrum time. Only refs that don’t know what they are doing will fall for that.

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                            @kev said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                            @pakman Tupou was just standing up at scrum time. Only refs that don’t know what they are doing will fall for that.

                            Noticed that a couple of times, and penalised for it once. But popped Hodgman into space once and that seemed more legal. What LHs try on THs all the time.

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                            • voodooV voodoo

                              @Bones said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                              @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                              @Bones said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                              Random thoughts in no particular order.

                              Frizzel got stopped a few times eh, but really happy with his game. His workrate was immense, I'd be really interested in seeing stats for carries/tackles/rucks. In saying that, be interested to see what the other options can do now and if they'll be as amazeballs as all the Frizzel knockers think they'll be.

                              Topped the tackle count on both stats websites.

                              High up for carries as well. Is there anywhere that does breakdown stats?

                              I just don't trust any of these stats, makes you wonder whose numbers the coaches use. For the fatties, I know they track closely dominant tackles , first 3 to breakdowns, repeat efforts, gain line breaches amongst other stuff.

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                              @voodoo said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                              @Bones said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                              @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                              @Bones said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                              Random thoughts in no particular order.

                              Frizzel got stopped a few times eh, but really happy with his game. His workrate was immense, I'd be really interested in seeing stats for carries/tackles/rucks. In saying that, be interested to see what the other options can do now and if they'll be as amazeballs as all the Frizzel knockers think they'll be.

                              Topped the tackle count on both stats websites.

                              High up for carries as well. Is there anywhere that does breakdown stats?

                              I just don't trust any of these stats, makes you wonder whose numbers the coaches use. For the fatties, I know they track closely dominant tackles , first 3 to breakdowns, repeat efforts, gain line breaches amongst other stuff.

                              Whether you trust them or not, feel free to use stats to back up your favourite player or make another one look like they are hopeless 😎

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                              • SiamS Siam

                                I've gotten a bit sick of Perenara. He's not really improved with age and his skills look sloppy. Add in all the pr virtue signalling and goddy good image and all I want for Christmas is a decent halfback prospect

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                                @Siam said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                I've gotten a bit sick of Perenara. He's not really improved with age and his skills look sloppy. Add in all the pr virtue signalling and goddy good image and all I want for Christmas is a decent halfback prospect

                                We all do except for TJP's White Knight, @canefan

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                                  @Siam said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                  I've gotten a bit sick of Perenara. He's not really improved with age and his skills look sloppy. Add in all the pr virtue signalling and goddy good image and all I want for Christmas is a decent halfback prospect

                                  We all do except for TJP's White Knight, @canefan

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                                  @junior said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                  @Siam said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                  I've gotten a bit sick of Perenara. He's not really improved with age and his skills look sloppy. Add in all the pr virtue signalling and goddy good image and all I want for Christmas is a decent halfback prospect

                                  We all do except for TJP's White Knight, @canefan

                                  At least TJP is doing a great job leading the haka

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                                    @DMX said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                    @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                    @Machpants nah I reckon he knew he was on hhe wrong side and thought if he gave it to us he avoids a penalty.

                                    On big Karl, yea looked like he is placing it back for the 9, which was pretty luck really cos if he doesnt score himself with 3 men outside....

                                    I was just so happy when he caught the ball ! I think it would have been asking too much for him to pass as well!

                                    Expect there’s still some nerves. Karl’s route to top hasn’t involved anywhere near as much top rugby as others. I think he was happy to catch, saw a massive hole which he took with aplomb, but wasn’t alert to what was outside him.

                                    Had been training for battering ram role all week.

                                    Hope they have a gentle word to him.

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                                    @pakman said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                    @DMX said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                    @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                    @Machpants nah I reckon he knew he was on hhe wrong side and thought if he gave it to us he avoids a penalty.

                                    On big Karl, yea looked like he is placing it back for the 9, which was pretty luck really cos if he doesnt score himself with 3 men outside....

                                    I was just so happy when he caught the ball ! I think it would have been asking too much for him to pass as well!

                                    Expect there’s still some nerves. Karl’s route to top hasn’t involved anywhere near as much top rugby as others. I think he was happy to catch, saw a massive hole which he took with aplomb, but wasn’t alert to what was outside him.

                                    Had been training for battering ram role all week.

                                    Hope they have a gentle word to him.

                                    The side step for someone of his geometry was something to behold but sure if he had fukked it up it could have been career ending

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                                      @MrDenmore said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                      All Blacks seriously need some succession planning at halfback. The gap between Aaron Smith and the rest is that big.

                                      Return to the status quo. Halfback has always been our weakest position historically.

                                      It's been a treat having a Rolls Royce halfback for the better part of a decade after always being outmatched.

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                                      @rotated said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                      @MrDenmore said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                      All Blacks seriously need some succession planning at halfback. The gap between Aaron Smith and the rest is that big.

                                      Return to the status quo. Halfback has always been our weakest position historically.

                                      It's been a treat having a Rolls Royce halfback for the better part of a decade after always being outmatched.

                                      A good point. Springboks have regularly seemed to be strong at halfback. Aus also and maybe the europeans

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                                        @kev said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                        @pakman Tupou was just standing up at scrum time. Only refs that don’t know what they are doing will fall for that.

                                        Noticed that a couple of times, and penalised for it once. But popped Hodgman into space once and that seemed more legal. What LHs try on THs all the time.

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                                        @pakman said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                        @kev said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                        @pakman Tupou was just standing up at scrum time. Only refs that don’t know what they are doing will fall for that.

                                        Noticed that a couple of times, and penalised for it once. But popped Hodgman into space once and that seemed more legal. What LHs try on THs all the time.

                                        Having only seen the replays on the big screen at the ground, I found it interesting that the ABs got a penalty for going forward well after Hodgman and Tupou both popped at one scrum, given the was a reset earlier. The old adage is that LHs drive up while THs drive down. But after a couple of actions any prop with his beer will decide how to play it depending on feel.

                                        Having done a few referring courses the direction is generally to tick the boxes for safety (binding on the arm is an easy one to ping) then make a decision to prevent endless resets.

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                                          @pakman said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                          @kev said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                          @pakman Tupou was just standing up at scrum time. Only refs that don’t know what they are doing will fall for that.

                                          Noticed that a couple of times, and penalised for it once. But popped Hodgman into space once and that seemed more legal. What LHs try on THs all the time.

                                          Having only seen the replays on the big screen at the ground, I found it interesting that the ABs got a penalty for going forward well after Hodgman and Tupou both popped at one scrum, given the was a reset earlier. The old adage is that LHs drive up while THs drive down. But after a couple of actions any prop with his beer will decide how to play it depending on feel.

                                          Having done a few referring courses the direction is generally to tick the boxes for safety (binding on the arm is an easy one to ping) then make a decision to prevent endless resets.

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                                          @NTA i think on that one the ref made a clear explanation of driving in and up against tupou.

                                          But the thing that prompts me to write is that Kearns agreed in the commentary.

                                          But I don't know mate, just sharing something I heard

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