Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November
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Right,
Same old, same old from the AB's, playing dumb rugby when things aren't going their way. BB's worst game for years and some dumb mistakes from his brothers as well as TJP and Reece. Laumape was anonymous.
Thought the turning point was late in 1st half when Oz kept us out. Cane had managed to get the teams concentration up a notch and failure to score then was probbly decisive. The team needs to just calm the fuck down and do the basics well when things are going right.
On the plus side, Reiko's best game for ages - very mature play and his defence in particular was simply unbelievable. Akira did well and hopefully will get another start or long field time as a sub. Lineout was solid and both Cane and Whitelock played out of their skin. Ardie was great too but does he start or do we have him as an impact player? The maul from the lineout is emerging a key weapon.
I can see why Foster made wholesale changes in a dead rubber, to test new combinations, and just hope he learns the lessons and we get the first choice selection next week
Biggest worry for me is mental attitude when under the pump. Key players in the team just seem to go to pieces.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
I’m blaming the Queensland Premier and her stupid border policy, forcing the ABs and Wallabies to fly into Brisbane on the day of a test.
#searching
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@Machpants said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
I’m blaming the Queensland Premier and her stupid border policy, forcing the ABs and Wallabies to fly into Brisbane on the day of a test.
#searching
Um
Like I said I’m searching...
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@Machpants said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
I’m blaming the Queensland Premier and her stupid border policy, forcing the ABs and Wallabies to fly into Brisbane on the day of a test.
#searching
Um
Like I said I’m searching...
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Machpants said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
I’m blaming the Queensland Premier and her stupid border policy, forcing the ABs and Wallabies to fly into Brisbane on the day of a test.
#searching
Um
Like I said I’m searching...
Reaching...
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@Gunner said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
It’s already been mentioned, but our leaders need a kick up the arse for allowing and heavily contributing to such helter skelter, brain dead play.
I'm going to play devil's advocate here, but don't you think that is the way they've played the last 5 years?
The big difference is when it works, it looks like magic; like nobody is in the same galaxy as the ABs. A few mistakes from them and a few less from the opposition, and suddenly it is an entirely different looking game.
@NTA said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Gunner said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
It’s already been mentioned, but our leaders need a kick up the arse for allowing and heavily contributing to such helter skelter, brain dead play.
I'm going to play devil's advocate here, but don't you think that is the way they've played the last 5 years?
The big difference is when it works, it looks like magic; like nobody is in the same galaxy as the ABs. A few mistakes from them and a few less from the opposition, and suddenly it is an entirely different looking game.
Just too headless this time mate.
We've fucked up plenty like you describe but this one is next fucking level.
So dumb for basically an hour
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Right,
Same old, same old from the AB's, playing dumb rugby when things aren't going their way. BB's worst game for years and some dumb mistakes from his brothers as well as TJP and Reece. Laumape was anonymous.
Thought the turning point was late in 1st half when Oz kept us out. Cane had managed to get the teams concentration up a notch and failure to score then was probbly decisive. The team needs to just calm the fuck down and do the basics well when things are going right.
On the plus side, Reiko's best game for ages - very mature play and his defence in particular was simply unbelievable. Akira did well and hopefully will get another start or long field time as a sub. Lineout was solid and both Cane and Whitelock played out of their skin. Ardie was great too but does he start or do we have him as an impact player? The maul from the lineout is emerging a key weapon.
I can see why Foster made wholesale changes in a dead rubber, to test new combinations, and just hope he learns the lessons and we get the first choice selection next week
Biggest worry for me is mental attitude when under the pump. Key players in the team just seem to go to pieces.
@Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
Biggest worry for me is mental attitude when under the pump. Key players in the team just seem to go to pieces.
This.
Upvote x10 for hitting the nail on the head.
Downvote x10 for even having to hit that nail on the head. -
I know BB was hopeless but can we blame him? He has hardly played 10 in the last year and a half.
@akan004 said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
I know BB was hopeless but can we blame him? He has hardly played 10 in the last year and a half.
Fozzie said before the game he expected some rust from him. Not exactly what you want to hear
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@Gunner Bryn Hall. He's very limited but at least his service is half decent.
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On current form I would genuinely pick all of Weber, Hall, Nock, Christie, and Fakatava ahead of Perenara.
Barrett was shit too. It's still a test match you cockhead. Just terrible options.
Laumape never had a chance outside those two.I'm in the 'just fucken tackle lower' camp on the cards. Ofa had all the time in the world to be in a better position than that. The Aussie bloke drops a bit pre-tackle and it's red. That's because Ofa took the risk. So shit for Akira, he was going good.
Also shit for Jordan to be injured so quick.
Also shit for Slipper to be injured in a milestone game.
Also shit for the Aussie bloke to get red on debut - his own fault - but he was going well too.Bad coaching. Bad initial selections. Bad use of the bench.
Oh yeah, and Scott Barrett, you dumb fluffybunny. Good fucken job when you get a card for that cynical shit, hopefully you get dropped for it too.
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I know BB was hopeless but can we blame him? He has hardly played 10 in the last year and a half.
@akan004 said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
I know BB was hopeless but can we blame him? He has hardly played 10 in the last year and a half.
The bigger problem would be if he didn't blame himself.
But he looked pretty contrite in the after match interview.All the olders have to take some blame for that nonsense
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This is the real problem with the ABs game play of just punishing on the counter, when forced to change plan it’s hard to suddenly try and take control of the game, slow it down, play for territory etc
Some of these guys just have the rugby smarts to change from fast and loose everyone can one hand offload to traditional roles etc
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@akan004 said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
I know BB was hopeless but can we blame him? He has hardly played 10 in the last year and a half.
The bigger problem would be if he didn't blame himself.
But he looked pretty contrite in the after match interview.All the olders have to take some blame for that nonsense
@Siam said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@akan004 said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
I know BB was hopeless but can we blame him? He has hardly played 10 in the last year and a half.
The bigger problem would be if he didn't blame himself.
But he looked pretty contrite in the after match interview.All the olders have to take some blame for that nonsense
Do you think he did? I though he was a bit smug! Just didn't seem that upset to me, and I didn't hear him absorb any blame?
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Lots of talk about BB and SB.
But did we see enough of "best 15 in the country" JB tonight to relegate him to the bench / outside the 22?
@voodoo said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
Lots of talk about BB and SB.
But did we see enough of "best 15 in the country" JB tonight to relegate him to the bench / outside the 22?
He certainly didn’t provide that second playmaker role from fullback.
Very early days but tonight showed a number of areas he needs to work on.
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ABs haven't had any midfield penetration since Rieko at 13 in the first test.
I'm really annoyed by putting Laumape in the squad. He's just so far off test level. He has running straight and that's it. He gets dominated and isolated at test level, and his distribution is genuinely terrible.
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@Tim you’re kidding right? Ardie was by some way the best player on the park tonight.
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So we know our top 2, 9 & 10, 11,12,13 and 15
Props and locks are obvious, SB nigh drop down behind Vaai after another brain fart.
There is a battle for 6 and 8 coming up. Weber should get a shot ahead of TJ and move Reiko to 14.
Top 15 is starting to look strong.
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
So we know our top 2, 9 & 10, 11,12,13 and 15
Props and locks are obvious, SB nigh drop down behind Vaai after another brain fart.
There is a battle for 6 and 8 coming up. Weber should get a shot ahead of TJ and move Reiko to 14.
Top 15 is starting to look strong.
Pretty much spot on analysis.
Think SB is now in 4th place behind Whitelock, Pat T, & Va'ai. Will be 5th if he has any more brain farts. Think we have an embarrassment of riches at 6 & 8. Different styles of players and a mix of experience but all strong players. Just need to get the combination right.
Big gap between AS and the next best 9 based on tonight's game. Just hope TJP picks up his game as the cupboard at 9 is looking bare.
