Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?
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@voodoo said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
@mariner4life said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
@voodoo get a job you bum
Fuck you, I'm back at work already! Had calls til 8pm last night!!!
alright then, as you were...
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My daughter has gone from being born and raised in Japan to the final two years of high school in NZ and living in a high school dormitory. She sends pictures of the slop they serve up and asks me "Would you eat this?". A lot of the weekend meals have no vegetables at all. She skips meals on occasion and supplements her diet with supermarket visits to survive both nutritionally and mental-health wise. The size of a lot of the kids her age (16/17/18) is quite alarming. You can see the damage the diet is doing and the health problems that will occur later in life. You see the parents/family photos and realize how much of a problem it is in NZ . The thing is that these kids, like a lot of NZ, are seriously active! But as the professionals say, "You can't out-exercise a bad diet".
Having lived in Japan most of my life now, every time I go back I can't get over the body shapes and the food habits of many people. It is genuinely scary! -
Disclaimer: I drink a lot, get told at the work health checks I need to lose weight (178cm ,75kg) , and my kids call me all sorts of names. I am not super-fit so probably there is a wee bit of hypocrisy in the previous post
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Regarding advertising, I found this from an American study on how much they spend on advertising to youth. It is a little dated being 2006 but shows 2 billion was spent trying to get youth to eat mostly unhealthy food. The scary thing is how little is spent advertising fruit and veg, I believe that is .5%
This also raises an interesting point in that the fresh fruit and veg industry don't appear to have a very strong lobby that advertises for them. You rarely see an ad for fresh strawberries but there is a shitload of ads for strawberry jam, strawberry milk, and strawberry flavoured sugary treats. In fact fresh fruit is often a lot more expensive than the sugar added processed product.
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@Old-Samurai-Jack said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
Disclaimer: I drink a lot, get told at the work health checks I need to lose weight (178cm ,75kg) , and my kids call me all sorts of names. I am not super-fit so probably there is a wee bit of hypocrisy in the previous post
I’d not do well at these work checks
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@Kirwan said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
Disclaimer: I drink a lot, get told at the work health checks I need to lose weight (178cm ,75kg) , and my kids call me all sorts of names. I am not super-fit so probably there is a wee bit of hypocrisy in the previous post
I’d not do well at these work checks
That's roughly a couple of kgs below my ratio and I am considered slim.
Well, I consider myself slim, It only takes a few weeks on the beers for a belly to start up.
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@mariner4life said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
I shouldn't really comment on this thread, i have a metabolism that allows me to eat pretty much what i want (not quite now that i am in to my mid-40s) and not stack too much weight on.
that said, i work out 5-6 times a week, and i don't eat breakfast. And i eat a lot of fresh food, the vast majority cooked/prepared by me. I snack on fruit, because i love fruit. i also really fucking love lollies and M&Ms, so i have those too.
Don't drink piss during the week. Do cook your own food. Do make an effort around portion control. Fucking move. That should be enough to make most people fit enough and healthy enough to be in a good spot. Do more if you want.
And do it before you are a fat mess, because once it's there, moving it is fucking hard.
I want to unlike this. I'm the complete opposite of this, just being in the vicinity of carbs sees me stacking on the weight.
I don't eat fruit, mostly because I grew up in Hawkes Bay and had a lifetimes worth before I was a teen and like you I live M&Ms and lollies, but I can't fucking eat them without ballooning out.
So the dietician was no help today, first she told me I should be 72kg (when I was 15 maybe), then she wondered why I don't eat rice (probably my fault for going to an all Asian staffed medical centre), then we did an eating diary and she couldn't suggest any changes to it, then she weighed me and I was 3kgs lighter than when I was first referred to her (2 months ago) so now I have to keep getting regular cholesterol checks and if it doesn't improve I have to go on meds.
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@Nepia oh man that last bit sucks!
Growing up in the BOP has fueled my love of fruit. As a kid driving out to the orchards and picking up massive sacks of oranges, apples, pears, or big boxes of berries. Watermelon after watermelon in summer. God i love fruit.
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@mariner4life said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
@Nepia oh man that last bit sucks!
Growing up in the BOP has fueled my love of fruit. As a kid driving out to the orchards and picking up massive sacks of oranges, apples, pears, or big boxes of berries. Watermelon after watermelon in summer. God i love fruit.
Yeah, but if it has a role to play in my migraines then I wont mind going on the meds ... I'm like a small pharmacy these days anyway.
Funny how we have the exact opposite reaction to growing up in an area with lots of fruit. I love sugar, just when it's processed, can't stomach the natural stuff.
Although I'm always keen to tuck into pineapple and strawberries. Think I last ate an apple, well, that wasn't in a pie, in the early 2000s.Although I don't eat fruit I eat truckloads of vegetables.
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@Nepia Don't stress about the cholesterol pills ... I've been on them since I was 25. Genetic thing, nothing I Can do about it.
Tropical fruit is a proper marmite thing. Pineapples, mangoes, melons, lychees etc are the absolute nuts. Super sweet. Yet, you then get dragonfruit (fucking cardboard), durian (gas leak anywhere) and jackfruit (known as a duck substitute).
UK fruit, (like most (non Asian) city fruit, to be honest) is bland.
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@MajorRage said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
@Nepia Don't stress about the cholesterol pills ... I've been on them since I was 25. Genetic thing, nothing I Can do about it.
Tropical fruit is a proper marmite thing. Pineapples, mangoes, melons, lychees etc are the absolute nuts. Super sweet. Yet, you then get dragonfruit (fucking cardboard), durian (gas leak anywhere) and jackfruit (known as a duck substitute).
UK fruit, (like most (non Asian) city fruit, to be honest) is bland.
Agree. The thing is it gets force grown out of season or imported from thousands of miles away in refrigerated conditions. No wonder it tastes of fuck all. If you eat locally produced fruit in season it is a different story but then you’ve got fuck all to eat for half the year. The thing that really shits me though is that even in the middle of the English strawberry season, most of our supermarket stuff comes from Spain or Morocco . Why?
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@Catogrande we get Kiwifruit from Italy...
I planted another plum tree (luisa, have an established billington) this year, hoping I get a decent crop of golden queen peaches too, also hoping for a better crop of feijoa this summer, last year was very disappointing...I have stewed peaches, feijoas and plums still in the freezer
Just finished juicing some limes and lemons, and in one of the lemons a larve of something was wriggling about...fucker
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@taniwharugby said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
@Catogrande we get Kiwifruit from Italy...
I planted another plum tree (luisa, have an established billington) this year, hoping I get a decent crop of golden queen peaches too, also hoping for a better crop of feijoa this summer, last year was very disappointing...I have stewed peaches, feijoas and plums still in the freezer
Just finished juicing some limes and lemons, and in one of the lemons a larve of something was wriggling about...fucker
Protein bonus
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@Catogrande bring on Brexit!
The flip side of shit fruit is that the vegetables are superb.
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@MajorRage said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
@Catogrande bring on Brexit!
The flip side of shit fruit is that the vegetables are superb.
It took me many years to appreciate that, as my dear old Mum had just the one method for cooking all vegetables. Boil the bollocks off them. They all ended up soggy and tasting of dirty water with the occasional aroma of sulphur. Once I found that you could actually add flavour rather than leech it all out, I became a big fan. Even Brussels sprouts now and again.
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@MN5 said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
Didn’t we already have a thread for favourite foods?
.....and another one before that ?
We are talking nutrition here, Jock. Take your deep-fried <insert unhealthy already food here> national culinary traits elsewhere ...
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@MajorRage said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
@MN5 said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
Didn’t we already have a thread for favourite foods?
.....and another one before that ?
We are talking nutrition here, Jock. Take your deep-fried <insert unhealthy already food here> national culinary traits elsewhere ...
I’m the first to admit Scotland’s culinary delights are about as appealing as as an intimate evening with Ursula Carlson.
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@MN5 said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
@MajorRage said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
@MN5 said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
Didn’t we already have a thread for favourite foods?
.....and another one before that ?
We are talking nutrition here, Jock. Take your deep-fried <insert unhealthy already food here> national culinary traits elsewhere ...
I’m the first to admit Scotland’s culinary delights are about as appealing as as an intimate evening with Ursula Carlson.
Fuck you now. I had to go and google the truffle-hunter. <shudder>
