Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November
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@KiwiMurph said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@Hooroo said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
I just don't get the Akira omission! That just doesn't make sense.
anyone listening to Fozzies comments? Does he say anything about him?
After the game Fozzie specifically made a comment that he felt sorry for Akira having to come off and that he thought he was playing magnificently.
I know. That's why I was wondering if he's offered a reason? Is he carrying a niggle?
@Hooroo said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@KiwiMurph said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@Hooroo said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
I just don't get the Akira omission! That just doesn't make sense.
anyone listening to Fozzies comments? Does he say anything about him?
After the game Fozzie specifically made a comment that he felt sorry for Akira having to come off and that he thought he was playing magnificently.
I know. That's why I was wondering if he's offered a reason? Is he carrying a niggle?
Sore shoulders from all the Aussies he smashed?
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@Yeetyaah said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@Canes4life why though? Laumape was terrible.
What did he do terribly? What has DMac done that makes you say he's been good?
Laumape was outside a poorly functioning BB who was outside a completely malfunctioning Perenara. He wasn't terrible.
@Bones said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@Yeetyaah said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@Canes4life why though? Laumape was terrible.
What did he do terribly? What has DMac done that makes you say he's been good?
Laumape was outside a poorly functioning BB who was outside a completely malfunctioning Perenara. He wasn't terrible.
^this
fozzies pet projects get loads of chances if things dont work perfectly for them, others he cuts loose unless they win things single hand idly
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I just don't get the Akira omission! That just doesn't make sense.
anyone listening to Fozzies comments? Does he say anything about him?
@Hooroo said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
I just don't get the Akira omission! That just doesn't make sense.
anyone listening to Fozzies comments? Does he say anything about him?
YouTube is down atm. Can't watch Foster's comments.
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@Nepia said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@DMX said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
I would say there was almost zero chance of Frizell being dropped after being rested after two strong performances even if Akira is the peoples favorite.
Two strong performances? Two ok performances more like it - although I still haven’t done a tv watch of BC3 to see if he was better than live at the ground like some posters suggested.
I said it before I think he plays super tight makes the hard yards, puts in the tackles, we need that hardness. Akira might have the same stuff but hes not dropping Frizell when he is doing exactly what Foster wants.
@DMX said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@Nepia said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@DMX said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
I would say there was almost zero chance of Frizell being dropped after being rested after two strong performances even if Akira is the peoples favorite.
Two strong performances? Two ok performances more like it - although I still haven’t done a tv watch of BC3 to see if he was better than live at the ground like some posters suggested.
I said it before I think he plays super tight makes the hard yards, puts in the tackles, we need that hardness. Akira might have the same stuff but hes not dropping Frizell when he is doing exactly what Foster wants.
You and Fozzie see a lot more in Shannon than I do - I didn’t notice it when watching him live.
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@DMX said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@Nepia said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@DMX said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
I would say there was almost zero chance of Frizell being dropped after being rested after two strong performances even if Akira is the peoples favorite.
Two strong performances? Two ok performances more like it - although I still haven’t done a tv watch of BC3 to see if he was better than live at the ground like some posters suggested.
I said it before I think he plays super tight makes the hard yards, puts in the tackles, we need that hardness. Akira might have the same stuff but hes not dropping Frizell when he is doing exactly what Foster wants.
You and Fozzie see a lot more in Shannon than I do - I didn’t notice it when watching him live.
@Nepia said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@DMX said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@Nepia said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@DMX said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
I would say there was almost zero chance of Frizell being dropped after being rested after two strong performances even if Akira is the peoples favorite.
Two strong performances? Two ok performances more like it - although I still haven’t done a tv watch of BC3 to see if he was better than live at the ground like some posters suggested.
I said it before I think he plays super tight makes the hard yards, puts in the tackles, we need that hardness. Akira might have the same stuff but hes not dropping Frizell when he is doing exactly what Foster wants.
You and Fozzie see a lot more in Shannon than I do - I didn’t notice it when watching him live.
I guess so, I rate him. But that said not much between our top loosies, we are building depth with Savea, Cane, Frizell, Akira and Sotutu, but tough to fit them all in. Not Fozzie's way to drop a performing player after being rested, wasn't Hansen's way either, in fact not many coach's way.
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How the fuk has Jordie started every game? Is he seriously first team calibre now that we cant afford to not play him?
If thats the case, the AB's are in a terrible state.@kpkanz said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
How the fuk has Jordie started every game? Is he seriously first team calibre now that we cant afford to not play him?
If thats the case, the AB's are in a terrible state.Really unlucky for Will Jordan, he is the guy who should really be pushing Jordie. Probably would have been on the bench for DMAC and could have pressed his claims for a start.
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@kpkanz said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
How the fuk has Jordie started every game? Is he seriously first team calibre now that we cant afford to not play him?
If thats the case, the AB's are in a terrible state.Really unlucky for Will Jordan, he is the guy who should really be pushing Jordie. Probably would have been on the bench for DMAC and could have pressed his claims for a start.
@DMX said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@kpkanz said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
How the fuk has Jordie started every game? Is he seriously first team calibre now that we cant afford to not play him?
If thats the case, the AB's are in a terrible state.Really unlucky for Will Jordan, he is the guy who should really be pushing Jordie. Probably would have been on the bench for DMAC and could have pressed his claims for a start.
Rieko was pretty good on the wing last week too, certainly better than Jordie has been.
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@DMX said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@kpkanz said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
How the fuk has Jordie started every game? Is he seriously first team calibre now that we cant afford to not play him?
If thats the case, the AB's are in a terrible state.Really unlucky for Will Jordan, he is the guy who should really be pushing Jordie. Probably would have been on the bench for DMAC and could have pressed his claims for a start.
Rieko was pretty good on the wing last week too, certainly better than Jordie has been.
@akan004 said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@DMX said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@kpkanz said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
How the fuk has Jordie started every game? Is he seriously first team calibre now that we cant afford to not play him?
If thats the case, the AB's are in a terrible state.Really unlucky for Will Jordan, he is the guy who should really be pushing Jordie. Probably would have been on the bench for DMAC and could have pressed his claims for a start.
Rieko was pretty good on the wing last week too, certainly better than Jordie has been.
But I think he still favors having a fullback/wing.
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@akan004 said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@DMX said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@kpkanz said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
How the fuk has Jordie started every game? Is he seriously first team calibre now that we cant afford to not play him?
If thats the case, the AB's are in a terrible state.Really unlucky for Will Jordan, he is the guy who should really be pushing Jordie. Probably would have been on the bench for DMAC and could have pressed his claims for a start.
Rieko was pretty good on the wing last week too, certainly better than Jordie has been.
But I think he still favors having a fullback/wing.
@DMX said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@akan004 said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@DMX said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@kpkanz said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
How the fuk has Jordie started every game? Is he seriously first team calibre now that we cant afford to not play him?
If thats the case, the AB's are in a terrible state.Really unlucky for Will Jordan, he is the guy who should really be pushing Jordie. Probably would have been on the bench for DMAC and could have pressed his claims for a start.
Rieko was pretty good on the wing last week too, certainly better than Jordie has been.
But I think he still favors having a fullback/wing.
You essentially get that with Clarke on the other side, with his ability under the high ball.
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Rieko was decent but I'm not sold he's our right winger either - two of the runs that stand out to me last week - one where Rieko got the ball in space and ran and threw a forward pass to Richie on ABs own 22 and secondly where he cleaned up the bad throw in from Reece I think it was but then he went himself but didn't keep his feet but instead got chopped down in a tackle and conceded a penalty for holding on.
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think it became clear weeks ago what Fozzie currently considers his top side, and after a loss, they want to bounce back, and bounce back hard!
@taniwharugby said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
think it became clear weeks ago what Fozzie currently considers his top side, and after a loss, they want to bounce back, and bounce back hard!
Pretty much what he says. Hopefully more comments about other selections will follow.
https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1326691177932992513?s=20
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@DMX said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@akan004 said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@DMX said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@kpkanz said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
How the fuk has Jordie started every game? Is he seriously first team calibre now that we cant afford to not play him?
If thats the case, the AB's are in a terrible state.Really unlucky for Will Jordan, he is the guy who should really be pushing Jordie. Probably would have been on the bench for DMAC and could have pressed his claims for a start.
Rieko was pretty good on the wing last week too, certainly better than Jordie has been.
But I think he still favors having a fullback/wing.
You essentially get that with Clarke on the other side, with his ability under the high ball.
@Kirwan maybe they prefer the Wing/FB option on the right side?
This seems to be where they have always had that player (Jane, NMS, Smith when he played wing and now Jordie) so maybe there is some analysis around kicking going there more often which is why they go there rather than 11?
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Rieko was decent but I'm not sold he's our right winger either - two of the runs that stand out to me last week - one where Rieko got the ball in space and ran and threw a forward pass to Richie on ABs own 22 and secondly where he cleaned up the bad throw in from Reece I think it was but then he went himself but didn't keep his feet but instead got chopped down in a tackle and conceded a penalty for holding on.
@KiwiMurph said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
Rieko was decent but I'm not sold he's our right winger either - two of the runs that stand out to me last week - one where Rieko got the ball in space and ran and threw a forward pass to Richie on ABs own 22 and secondly where he cleaned up the bad throw in from Reece I think it was but then he went himself but didn't keep his feet but instead got chopped down in a tackle and conceded a penalty for holding on.
He must be out of form if he's passing to players in the stands
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@Kirwan maybe they prefer the Wing/FB option on the right side?
This seems to be where they have always had that player (Jane, NMS, Smith when he played wing and now Jordie) so maybe there is some analysis around kicking going there more often which is why they go there rather than 11?
@taniwharugby said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@Kirwan maybe they prefer the Wing/FB option on the right side?
This seems to be where they have always had that player (Jane, NMS, Smith when he played wing and now Jordie) so maybe there is some analysis around kicking going there more often which is why they go there rather than 11?
This.
I guess if the oppo 10 is more naturally right footed then they are going to kick left to our right winger. -
@Kirwan maybe they prefer the Wing/FB option on the right side?
This seems to be where they have always had that player (Jane, NMS, Smith when he played wing and now Jordie) so maybe there is some analysis around kicking going there more often which is why they go there rather than 11?
@taniwharugby said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@Kirwan maybe they prefer the Wing/FB option on the right side?
This seems to be where they have always had that player (Jane, NMS, Smith when he played wing and now Jordie) so maybe there is some analysis around kicking going there more often which is why they go there rather than 11?
All three of those players, when picked, were very elusive and quick and didn't lose anything playing them on the wing. Jordie is not much of a step up from Bridge on attack IMO. Both do good things, but are streets behind players like Reiko and Clarke (and potentially Jordan) at making the most of a one on one situation or finishing on the wing.
