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  • NTAN Offline
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    NTA
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    #3102

    Incident at a servo a couple of minutes from wherei live. Didn't go quite as planned for the perp, but I love how Hills LAC posted it on their Facebook page, and the responses. <br><br>
    [attachment=1994:Screenshot_20160316-081251~2.png]<br><br>
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    #3103

    <p>What's with the Police post harping on about 'NZ Nationals' as if it makes any difference to what happened?</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Are they implying that 'NZ Nationals' are tougher than Australians?</p>

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    #3104

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">
    <p> </p>
    <p>sustained minor injuries</p>
    </blockquote>
    <p> :good1:</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Crucial - reckon its Ocker code for "they were Maori"</p>

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    booboo
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    #3105

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crucial" data-cid="564849" data-time="1458077246"><p>
    What's with the Police post harping on about 'NZ Nationals' as if it makes any difference to what happened?<br><br>
    Are they implying that 'NZ Nationals' are tougher than Australians?</p></blockquote>
    <br>
    Don't muss wuth a bunch of Cuzzy Bros, bro.

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  • antipodeanA Offline
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    antipodean
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    #3106

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crucial" data-cid="564849" data-time="1458077246">
    <div>
    <p>What's with the Police post harping on about 'NZ Nationals' as if it makes any difference to what happened?</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Are they implying that 'NZ Nationals' are tougher than Australians?</p>
    </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Just the difference in how each countries' indigenous folk are perceived over here.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p><img src="https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_PgM6VHQRqU/hqdefault.jpg" alt="hqdefault.jpg"></p>

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    Crucial
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    #3107

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="dogmeat" data-cid="564856" data-time="1458081236">
    <div>
    <p> :good1:</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Crucial - reckon its Ocker code for "they were Maori"</p>
    </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Yeah, I did get that just didn't want to be accused of being one of BSGs 'social justice warriors'.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Still a good bit of racial profiling by the NSW constabulary.</p>

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  • NTAN Offline
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    NTA
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    #3108

    <p>Well, if you're a racist I guess you could jump to that conclusion :think:</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>:fishing:</p>

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    Donsteppa
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    #3109

    <p><img src="https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/64956_1073263532743655_4464258191975745591_n.jpg?oh=945f03f6482e2db965069aef21b175c0&oe=578CDE53&gda=1464725422_efdcd2fed3d6590806e253175a1b6be6" alt="64956_1073263532743655_44642581919757455"></p>

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    Donsteppa
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    #3110

    <p>And...</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p><img src="https://scontent-syd1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/1935073_1073214032748605_4287780711182701920_n.png?oh=d43a265ce929c7887783bedb75e28f32&oe=579267FE" alt="1935073_1073214032748605_428778071118270"></p>

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  • PaekakboyzP Offline
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    Paekakboyz
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    #3111

    <p>Gold bro, pure gold!</p>

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  • DonsteppaD Offline
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    #3112

    <p>Facebook is on a roll:</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p><img src="https://scontent-syd1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/t31.0-8/921467_1220037778024665_931744670617208629_o.png" alt="921467_1220037778024665_9317446706172086"></p>

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  • jeggaJ Offline
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    #3113

    <p>What do you think about the Uk sugar tax? Key says its unlikely to happen here , it wouldn't affect me anyway as I gave up soft drinks and juice about 12 years ago because I'm pretty certain I've already paid for my dentists kids education and a waterfront apartment for his mistress.</p>
    <p>Jamie Oliver was one of the people behind the tax.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Seeing as the money from the tax is to be set aside for  helping out British sport with grants etc I'm torn, I like the idea of the tax , but the poms being better at sports ?</p>

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  • R Offline
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    Rembrandt
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    #3114

    I like it. Especially the part where my very lazy overweight ex work colleague had a bit of a rant against it on facebook.

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  • jeggaJ Offline
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    #3115

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Rembrandt" data-cid="565205" data-time="1458200006">
    <div>
    <p>I like it. Especially the part where my very lazy overweight ex work colleague had a bit of a rant against it on facebook.</p>
    </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Can you post it without the name? </p>

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  • CatograndeC Offline
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    Catogrande
    wrote on last edited by
    #3116

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="jegga" data-cid="565192" data-time="1458197567">
    <div>
    <p>What do you think about the Uk sugar tax? Key says its unlikely to happen here , it wouldn't affect me anyway as I gave up soft drinks and juice about 12 years ago because I'm pretty certain I've already paid for my dentists kids education and a waterfront apartment for his mistress.</p>
    <p>Jamie Oliver was one of the people behind the tax.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Seeing as the money from the tax is to be set aside for  helping out British sport with grants etc I'm torn, I like the idea of the tax , but the poms being better at sports ?</p>
    </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p>The knee-jerk reaction is that anything that mitigates against continuing rising levels of obesity, particularly in kids has to be good but, and there is always a but in anything political, even the government's modelling suggests only a minor reduction in very high sugar drinks and a RISE in the slightly less sugary drinks so whether or not it will make any real difference is moot. Plus with the margins and turnover of these drinks manufacturers is is not outside the bounds of possibility that they can absorb some of the costs and keep the stuff at affordable levels.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>As to what happens with the tax raised - this is the UK. It will all get fudged, but the time the costs of policing and collecting the tax is taken into account there will be fuck all left and only a token amount will go to sport. The reality is it will all get swallowed up by the great maw of running an obese Government. Ironic really.</p>

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  • TimT Away
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    Tim
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    #3117

    <p>There was an open-access paper in the BMJ this year that claimed some success for Mexico's soda tax. Might be worth a look (I'm too lazy to read it, so please analyse it for me).</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.bmj.com/content/352/bmj.h6704'>http://www.bmj.com/content/352/bmj.h6704</a></p>

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  • CatograndeC Offline
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    #3118

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Tim" data-cid="565212" data-time="1458201876">
    <div>
    <p>There was an open-access paper in the BMJ this year that claimed some success for Mexico's soda tax. Might be worth a look (I'm too lazy to read it, so please analyse it for me).</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.bmj.com/content/352/bmj.h6704'>http://www.bmj.com/content/352/bmj.h6704</a></p>
    </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p>It would seem that I'm as lazy as you Tim, but I did read a bit in the UK press about the success of the Mexican tax. I'd say the things that make the differences between Mexico and the UK are  marked differences in net disposable income (at the lower end of the socio-economic scale) and the rate of the tax.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Maybe I'm just a bit jaundiced but I've seen quite a few such initiatives come along about one problem or another and they all turn out to be a crock of shit. Well, nearly all.</p>

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    Rembrandt
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    #3119

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="jegga" data-cid="565209" data-time="1458201207"><p>
    Can you post it without the name?</p></blockquote>
    <br>
    I don't know any of the commenters, James' comment was far too good to leave out

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  • gollumG Offline
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    #3120

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Catogrande" data-cid="565211" data-time="1458201409">
    <p>As to what happens with the tax raised - this is the UK. It will all get fudged, but the time the costs of policing and collecting the tax is taken into account there will be fuck all left and only a token amount will go to sport. The reality is it will all get swallowed up by the great maw of running an obese Government. Ironic really.</p>
    </blockquote>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I'm less concerned with actually raising revenue (tho' thats good) more with it moving cost to those responsible for it. At the moment the NHS is paying out 5 billion to deal with the fat of the UK. More than those who smoke. So ideally you'd charge the fat 5 billion for being fat. And they'd either pay or stop being fat & a drag on the NHS.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I'm a huge fan of any tax that directly imposes a relevant cost on peoples decision making. You want to be a massive fat slob & still get "free" healthcare, here's the bill porky.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Re Mexico</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21679259-taxes-fizzy-drinks-seem-work-intended-stopping-slurping'>http://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21679259-taxes-fizzy-drinks-seem-work-intended-stopping-slurping</a></p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>"Higher prices, in turn, do seem to have crimped demand for fizzy drinks. FEMSA, Coca-Cola’s Mexican bottler, blamed declining sales in 2014 on the price jump that followed the introduction of the tax. A monthly manufacturing survey found that overall sales of fizzy drinks fell by 1.9% in 2014, having increased by an average of 3.2% a year over the previous three years (see chart). Another study, based on household surveys rather than industry data, shows an even stronger effect: it found that consumption of sugary drinks fell by 6% relative to pre-tax trends over the tax’s first year. Some data suggest that Mexicans switched to healthier alternatives. The manufacturing survey shows that sales of bottled water jumped by 5.2% in 2014."</p>
    <p>...</p>
    <p>"low-income households were the most responsive to the tax, cutting their consumption of sugary drinks by 17% within a year of its introduction. That means the poor will gain greater health benefits from the tax. That is especially important since they are hit harder by obesity and diabetes, as they have less access to health care."</p>
    <p>...</p>
    <p>"Although the academic evidence suggests that taxes on sugary drinks are working as intended, it also indicates that bad design can undermine much of the benefit. For one thing, relatively high taxes are needed to change consumer behaviour. Various states in America have had extra sales taxes on fizzy drinks, of 3-7%. This has helped to raise revenue, but the impact on consumption has been marginal."</p>

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  • TimT Away
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    Tim
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    #3121

    <p>Gollum, have you or your avatar read <em>Nudge </em>by Cass Sunstein?</p>

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