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Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November

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  • SnowyS Offline
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    @NTA said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

    Penalty becomes a bit more complex because it depends on location,

    Yep. Has to be taken into account if three points are on offer.

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    @Snowy said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

    @NTA said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

    Penalty becomes a bit more complex because it depends on location,

    Yep. Has to be taken into account if three points are on offer.

    And if the team has a kicker of bombing them from anywhere inside the opposition half etc.

    Sevens is easy - pretty much everything is advantage over!

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    @NTA plenty of examples in M10 Cup where a penalty advantage inside the 22 is pretty much goes until the attacking team score, lose possession or the other team infringes again.

    I guess the good thing is, the refs have largely been consistent on it, so there's that!

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    @pakman said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

    I thought exactly same about Matera penalty.
    Frizell trip was really poor.

    For all he was poor in that passage, I don't think that was evidence of an attempted trip - the leg didn't swing anywhere near enough into the path of the Dirty Sanchez.

    Aoane/Sotutu for Puma 2.

    Agreed. It's so obvious it's infuriating.

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    @antipodean and TBH, those 2 changes is likely to provide a huge difference to our game, then just minor tweaks to our game plan will reap huge rewards.

    Wholesale changes for B4, then again for Argie 1, are we in for a raft of changes again?

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    And not responding to niggle, and stop giving away silly penalties full stop

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    @antipodean said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

    @pakman said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

    I thought exactly same about Matera penalty.
    Frizell trip was really poor.

    For all he was poor in that passage, I don't think that was evidence of an attempted trip - the leg didn't swing anywhere near enough into the path of the Dirty Sanchez.

    Aoane/Sotutu for Puma 2.

    Agreed. It's so obvious it's infuriating.

    Yeah - I think the attempted foot trip is a bit of a hatchet job on Shannon. And if you look at the wide shot at the end he's far from the only AB forward walking back.

    However, that being said, it is definitely time to give Akira and Sotutu their chances.

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    @taniwharugby said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

    Wholesale changes for B4, then again for Argie 1, are we in for a raft of changes again?

    We need to be careful not to throw the baby out with the bathwater by making a complete raft of changes.

    But, bringing in e.g. Laulala for Lomax and even (to an extent) Barrett for Tuipolotu is bringing additional experience.

    Which, in my view, means we can afford a few rookies. I'm suggesting Akira, Sotutu and Jordan, but two out of three will be acceptable.

    I'll be pissed if we get none.

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    @Chris-B said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

    @taniwharugby said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

    Wholesale changes for B4, then again for Argie 1, are we in for a raft of changes again?

    We need to be careful not to throw the baby out with the bathwater by making a complete raft of changes.

    But, bringing in e.g. Laulala for Lomax and even (to an extent) Barrett for Tuipolotu is bringing additional experience.

    Which, in my view, means we can afford a few rookies. I'm suggesting Akira, Sotutu and Jordan, but two out of three will be acceptable.

    I'll be pissed if we get none.

    If Akira doesn't start there is something wrong that we just don't know about.

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    @Chris-B said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

    @antipodean said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

    @pakman said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

    I thought exactly same about Matera penalty.
    Frizell trip was really poor.

    For all he was poor in that passage, I don't think that was evidence of an attempted trip - the leg didn't swing anywhere near enough into the path of the Dirty Sanchez.

    Aoane/Sotutu for Puma 2.

    Agreed. It's so obvious it's infuriating.

    Yeah - I think the attempted foot trip is a bit of a hatchet job on Shannon. And if you look at the wide shot at the end he's far from the only AB forward walking back.

    However, that being said, it is definitely time to give Akira and Sotutu their chances.

    The shoulder charge part isn't though. If that had connected it would have been yellow, and if he hit the head, another first half red card. Pretty stupid after the previous week.

    And sorry, but the walk back was super lazy.

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    @Kirwan Yeah - the body check was dumb.

    And yes, I'd like to see some urgency to get back - but, there's not actually any AB forward showing much urgency. At least two others just walking and the others just jogging.

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    @Chris-B said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

    Which, in my view, means we can afford a few rookies. I'm suggesting Akira, Sotutu and Jordan, but two out of three will be acceptable.

    I'll be pissed if we get none.

    And, actually thinking about this a bit more - with Jordan having played five minutes of rugby in the past two months, maybe they're best just to leave him till next year now.

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    @Chris-B said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

    @Kirwan Yeah - the body check was dumb.

    And yes, I'd like to see some urgency to get back - but, there's not actually any AB forward showing much urgency. At least two others just walking and the others just jogging.

    And they deserved to be criticized as well. If this was Frizzel's tiral against Akira (he was used out wide like Akira was the previous game) he failed completely.

    If he gets selected again I move that he inherits the Suitcase moniker from Thorne.

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    @Kirwan Yeah - but, to be fair you guys in the Akira fan club are always going to be marking Shannon harsher than he deserves.

    Anyway, let's hope Akira gets a start this weekend and it doesn't get ruined by any foolish Blues team mates (or anyone else for that matter! 🙂

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    @Chris-B said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

    @Kirwan Yeah - but, to be fair you guys in the Akira fan club are always going to be marking Shannon harsher than he deserves.

    Anyway, let's hope Akira gets a start this weekend and it doesn't get ruined by any foolish Blues team mates (or anyone else for that matter! 🙂

    Don't think that English video guy is an Akira fan.

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    @Kirwan He doesn't sound like an All Black fan at all.

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    i actually dont mind that dudes video's...but some of it is cringe

    Frizell gets like a minute of close ups and rewinding...for not actually achieving anything...matea checks savea off the ball, slightly, and its just him "checking Saveas respect "

    I think calling that a trip attempt is a stretch too, yes, goes for a check and is not sprinting back as you would expect...but a leg off the ground does not a trip make

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    @Chris-B said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

    @Kirwan Yeah - but, to be fair you guys in the Akira fan club are always going to be marking Shannon harsher than he deserves.

    ... says the founder and president of the 40 year old Romance Romano club

    Edit: we all have our biases 🙂

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    @nzzp Also being fair, today's probably about the second time I've mentioned Romano in two years.

    I probably commented on his performance vs Ta$man at the time. 🙂

    Edit: I don't mind being the President, Founding Member and Principal Spokesman of the Will Jordan fan club!

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  • nzzpN Online
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    @Chris-B said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

    Edit: I don't mind being the President, Founding Member and Principal Spokesman of the Will Jordan fan club!

    You'll have a shedload more compteition for that position!

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