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Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November

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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    Think Tuipulotu might be better suited to the bench.

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    @KiwiMurph said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    Think Tuipulotu might be better suited to the bench.

    Nah, he’s fine starting when fit and healthy.

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    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

      Think Tuipulotu might be better suited to the bench.

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      @KiwiMurph said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

      Think Tuipulotu might be better suited to the bench.

      Yes I thought that too - with SB at lock, he was nuch more solid and composed than he ever was at 6

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      • K kpkanz

        @antipodean He's better than Jordie

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        @kpkanz he’s not better than Jordie at Fullback. JB is getting a lot of stick on here, but he didnt choose to play wing. Foster’s ignorance is preventing him from getting time in his preferred position. Hope he gets more of a chance there in 2021.

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          End of the season and what have we learnt? Akira is clearly the best 6 in New Zealand. Massive effort tonight and my MoTM.

          Ardie's athleticism is a huge plus in the final quarter, but Sotutu needs to start.

          Will Jordan is a shoe-in for the right wing spot. He has the golden touch Beaudy had.

          Long term Rieko is a centre, just needs more time in SR to hone the positional awareness. Some good competition coming through too.

          At 12 the coaches need to identiify the type of player they're after because as good as Goodhue is, he doesn't distribute.

          Mo'unga is still a flat track bully.

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            Argentina would be world champions in a tackling competition. Shame thats not a fucken sport.

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              Argentina would be world champions in a tackling competition. Shame thats not a fucken sport.

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              @Derpus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

              Argentina would be world champions in a tackling competition. Shame thats not a fucken sport.

              24 missed tackles.

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              • antipodeanA antipodean

                @voodoo said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                I feel a bit dirty, but did SB actually go OK at lock tonight?

                Yes, excellent game tonight. No niggling, no stupid penalties, just carried and cleaned hard.

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                @antipodean said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                @voodoo said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                I feel a bit dirty, but did SB actually go OK at lock tonight?

                Yes, excellent game tonight. No niggling, no stupid penalties, just carried and cleaned hard.

                Yeah he was awesome.

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                  There was a lot to like about the All Black game tonight. Patience, options, controlled aggression and set piece work. For all that people complained about the kicking in the first half, it's necessary to stop a rush defence. This sort of work pays off late in the game and it clearly did tonight.

                  Admittedly the accuracy of the kicks needs work, but it's a valid strategy.

                  Sam needs to work on his communication with the refs, getting in their mind about what to look at. Perhaps Fitzy could come in as a consultant.

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                    Relieved that the discipline improved to satisfactory.

                    Hate the kick pass ( unless Foster is recruiting Dusty Martin)

                    Clean sheet always good

                    Miss pick and goes, and backline moves off a lineout - then again my Nana's been gone for 4 years and I miss her too.

                    Please don't let us make a habit of a decent win only following 2 shithouse defeats

                    Can't believe I watched Leicester from Ta$man and an off colour Rayasi, only to see 80 minutes of Jordie Barrett being the pinnacle winger of NZ rugby

                    Nice Akira. Different player without the predisposition to niggle

                    Take little pride in burglaring the tri nations, if that happens.

                    TJ is definitely off to Japan, yeah? Good

                    Cane's papering/plastering business is going to make money in the short term.

                    Not filled with hope - spent a fortune on counselling to rid me of the "powder dry" ailment/delusion and now there are still rocks under my beach towel this summer

                    C+ for the AB season

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                    • antipodeanA antipodean

                      End of the season and what have we learnt? Akira is clearly the best 6 in New Zealand. Massive effort tonight and my MoTM.

                      Ardie's athleticism is a huge plus in the final quarter, but Sotutu needs to start.

                      Will Jordan is a shoe-in for the right wing spot. He has the golden touch Beaudy had.

                      Long term Rieko is a centre, just needs more time in SR to hone the positional awareness. Some good competition coming through too.

                      At 12 the coaches need to identiify the type of player they're after because as good as Goodhue is, he doesn't distribute.

                      Mo'unga is still a flat track bully.

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                      @antipodean said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                      End of the season and what have we learnt? Akira is clearly the best 6 in New Zealand. Massive effort tonight and my MoTM.

                      Ardie's athleticism is a huge plus in the final quarter, but Sotutu needs to start.

                      Will Jordan is a shoe-in for the right wing spot. He has the golden touch Beaudy had.

                      Long term Rieko is a centre, just needs more time in SR to hone the positional awareness. Some good competition coming through too.

                      At 12 the coaches need to identiify the type of player they're after because as good as Goodhue is, he doesn't distribute.

                      Mo'unga is still a flat track bully.

                      I'm on board with all of that, aside from annointing Reiko at 13. I like him there, but I'm still yet to see anything that cements him above JG or PUJ, or even ALB if we insist on JG at 12.

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                      • antipodeanA antipodean

                        There was a lot to like about the All Black game tonight. Patience, options, controlled aggression and set piece work. For all that people complained about the kicking in the first half, it's necessary to stop a rush defence. This sort of work pays off late in the game and it clearly did tonight.

                        Admittedly the accuracy of the kicks needs work, but it's a valid strategy.

                        Sam needs to work on his communication with the refs, getting in their mind about what to look at. Perhaps Fitzy could come in as a consultant.

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                        @antipodean said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                        There was a lot to like about the All Black game tonight. Patience, options, controlled aggression and set piece work. For all that people complained about the kicking in the first half, it's necessary to stop a rush defence. This sort of work pays off late in the game and it clearly did tonight.

                        Admittedly the accuracy of the kicks needs work, but it's a valid strategy.

                        Sam needs to work on his communication with the refs, getting in their mind about what to look at. Perhaps Fitzy could come in as a consultant.

                        Point taken. Didn’t mind the chip kicks as much but the cross kicks were overused.

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                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                          @kpkanz he’s not better than Jordie at Fullback. JB is getting a lot of stick on here, but he didnt choose to play wing. Foster’s ignorance is preventing him from getting time in his preferred position. Hope he gets more of a chance there in 2021.

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                          @Canes4life Amazing how out of position Jordan can fill in fine on the wing. Jordie is the biggest imposter ive ever seen in international rugby.

                          If he played every game at fullback in this tournament he wouldve had the same level of performance as he has on the wing.

                          At least Dmac has performances at international level to point to prove he can play there.

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                            At the end of the day the Pumas have scored 1 try in 240 minutes of rugby. Mostly sound on defence but they have still conceded 7 tries while being absolutely clueless on attack.

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                              @Canes4life Amazing how out of position Jordan can fill in fine on the wing. Jordie is the biggest imposter ive ever seen in international rugby.

                              If he played every game at fullback in this tournament he wouldve had the same level of performance as he has on the wing.

                              At least Dmac has performances at international level to point to prove he can play there.

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                              @kpkanz poor mans Hodge

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                              • sparkyS sparky

                                Akira Ioane. What a player!

                                Will Jordan. What a player!

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                                @sparky said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                                Akira Ioane. What a player!

                                Will Jordan. What a player!

                                Who’d have thought the guys tearing it up in Super rugby over multiple seasons might have been worth selecting for the ABs?
                                Pity we only got to see them properly in the last game of the season. But hey, we got to see lots of Jordie and Frizzel!
                                Coaching genius!

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                                  Like how Coles talks about the loss hurting.

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                                  • antipodeanA antipodean

                                    End of the season and what have we learnt? Akira is clearly the best 6 in New Zealand. Massive effort tonight and my MoTM.

                                    Ardie's athleticism is a huge plus in the final quarter, but Sotutu needs to start.

                                    Will Jordan is a shoe-in for the right wing spot. He has the golden touch Beaudy had.

                                    Long term Rieko is a centre, just needs more time in SR to hone the positional awareness. Some good competition coming through too.

                                    At 12 the coaches need to identiify the type of player they're after because as good as Goodhue is, he doesn't distribute.

                                    Mo'unga is still a flat track bully.

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                                    @antipodean said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                                    End of the season and what have we learnt? Akira is clearly the best 6 in New Zealand. Massive effort tonight and my MoTM.

                                    Ardie's athleticism is a huge plus in the final quarter, but Sotutu needs to start.

                                    Will Jordan is a shoe-in for the right wing spot. He has the golden touch Beaudy had.

                                    Long term Rieko is a centre, just needs more time in SR to hone the positional awareness. Some good competition coming through too.

                                    At 12 the coaches need to identiify the type of player they're after because as good as Goodhue is, he doesn't distribute.

                                    Mo'unga is still a flat track bully.

                                    Pretty much agree with that except I'd like to see Akira and Will Jordan with a few more tests under their belts before we nail them down in the 6 & 14 slots.

                                    Akira's attitude change has been awesome. Huge credit to him and also the coaching staff

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                                      I would like Jordan to start against a solid, tight defense, in order to see what he can do. I am convinced he is a big upgrade compared to JB who is clearly not a wing.

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                                      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                        @antipodean said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                                        End of the season and what have we learnt? Akira is clearly the best 6 in New Zealand. Massive effort tonight and my MoTM.

                                        Ardie's athleticism is a huge plus in the final quarter, but Sotutu needs to start.

                                        Will Jordan is a shoe-in for the right wing spot. He has the golden touch Beaudy had.

                                        Long term Rieko is a centre, just needs more time in SR to hone the positional awareness. Some good competition coming through too.

                                        At 12 the coaches need to identiify the type of player they're after because as good as Goodhue is, he doesn't distribute.

                                        Mo'unga is still a flat track bully.

                                        Pretty much agree with that except I'd like to see Akira and Will Jordan with a few more tests under their belts before we nail them down in the 6 & 14 slots.

                                        Akira's attitude change has been awesome. Huge credit to him and also the coaching staff

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                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                                        @antipodean said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                                        End of the season and what have we learnt? Akira is clearly the best 6 in New Zealand. Massive effort tonight and my MoTM.

                                        Ardie's athleticism is a huge plus in the final quarter, but Sotutu needs to start.

                                        Will Jordan is a shoe-in for the right wing spot. He has the golden touch Beaudy had.

                                        Long term Rieko is a centre, just needs more time in SR to hone the positional awareness. Some good competition coming through too.

                                        At 12 the coaches need to identiify the type of player they're after because as good as Goodhue is, he doesn't distribute.

                                        Mo'unga is still a flat track bully.

                                        Pretty much agree with that except I'd like to see Akira and Will Jordan with a few more tests under their belts before we nail them down in the 6 & 14 slots.

                                        Akira's attitude change has been awesome. Huge credit to him and also the coaching staff

                                        Goodhue doesn’t distribute? He is far and away the best distributor in the backline.

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                                        • StagS Stag

                                          At the end of the day the Pumas have scored 1 try in 240 minutes of rugby. Mostly sound on defence but they have still conceded 7 tries while being absolutely clueless on attack.

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                                          @Stag said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                                          At the end of the day the Pumas have scored 1 try in 240 minutes of rugby. Mostly sound on defence but they have still conceded 7 tries while being absolutely clueless on attack.

                                          And had their greatest game of rugby ever, so I don't think they'll worry that 1 try is framed among that and a helluva effort vs aus

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