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Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November

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    @taniwharugby said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @mariner4life tbh i think it was more the kicking accuracy that was the issue.

    Go back a few years and our kicks were always in the money, but in the past 18 months the accuracy hasn't been there so they are just wasted possession.

    So fucking stop!!

    Good half for most of the forwards. Impressed by the locks and the props. A Ioane is making this look easy. Not much for cane to do. Savea in the wrong position.

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    I notice you left out the hooker.

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    @mariner4life or practice more so they aren't wasting possession

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    Jordie doesn't have the height for those cross kicks. Get Ardie out there ....

    (no I'm not serious).

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    @nostrildamus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    I notice you left out the hooker.

    Well he's playing as a winger

    Underthrew a lineout too. Scrummaging well though

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    @mariner4life said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    STOP KICKING THE FUCKING BALL AWAY YOU fluffybunnies

    To quote Karen Carpenter: it's only just begun...😄

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    @mariner4life said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @nostrildamus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    I notice you left out the hooker.

    Well he's playing as a winger

    Underthrew a lineout too. Scrummaging well though

    He kind of has to so that we have some punch on the right flank. The actual wing seems to be there only to contest and not win cross kicks.

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    @mariner4life said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    STOP KICKING THE FUCKING BALL AWAY YOU fluffybunnies

    @mariner4life said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    Halftime

    And yes I know the score

    O.K. then I do think this was a tactic to combat what happened last time when we got smashed on the line. We turn them, make them retreat with early kicks. Create doubt in what is formidible defence. They weren't as keen to rush.

    A few comments eary in the thread like yours, but I reckon it worked.

    We did too much of it later, and the cross kicks were shit, but we did hold the ball for a lot of the match and it paid off.

    It also helps when you get the best players on the field.

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    @Snowy said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    It also helps when you get the best players on the field.

    And next year, hopefully, in their best positions!

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    @Snowy yea I think the kicks were more often than not the right option, but didn't end up where they needed to be.

    Is funny though how different we all see the game.

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    Lol 3 mins in and we've bombed the same try 3 times

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    @taniwharugby said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @Snowy yea I think the kicks were more often than not the right option, but didn't end up where they needed to be.

    Is funny though how different we all see the game.

    I thought that I could see a plan. Which was probably the first time this year.

    Execution is another thing of course, and yes some of them were shit, but I think it had the desired affect early on. Later on, no. A knackered defence, we should have been building phases.

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    Funny, I was yelling at them to kick it to the Argies all night. With the game's defenses like they are these days, it is a liability to have the ball in your own half especially. The ABs still piss around with it too much in their own 22 and put pressure on themselves.

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    Richie mo'unga you fucking suck

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    Wait, why is Clarke the winger towed?

    Jordie barrett is the living embodiment of kissed on the dick

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    @mariner4life said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    Wait, why is Clarke the winger towed?

    You know the blokes name.

    I think that he used to coach one of your teams.

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    @mariner4life please, please listen to the Kearns and Clark exchange post game.

    What I saw in the back was a free for all. It’s not attacking or reacting. It’s pass or kick and hope. I don’t think we played any better in the backs than the last game..

    Mo’unga does not control the game. Im not sure he reacts either. There’s no territorial play. He seems to be crashing the ball more and more and we need him distributing. He wasn’t horrible but by this stage he should have cemented his position and he hasn’t.

    BB is either 10 or he’s not. Right now he just floats and adds, well, not enough. It comes down to this, we either persevere with one or the other, like we used to and someone is disappointed for not being selected. Or we continue to field the odd specialist and the rest of the back line are utilities. That’s not a viable way forward.

    Speaking of utilities, Jordie doesn’t work on the wing. I’d rather have a specialist and try him at the back or as utility cover. He’s a very good player being misused.

    Caleb Clarke and Reiko Ioane(not so much last night for the latter but in general) do not appear to be getting any coaching at all. They only have eyes for the ball. They mostly don’t look for support and die with the ball a lot. Reiko is supposed to be this kid with jet engines and I can not remember him taking an outside break any many games.

    Forwards we’re like a viagra pill and had me barred up... Energised, powerful, cohesive and dominant. Props to the props. They were outstanding. The young fella in 6 looks like he’s ready to live up to the potential we saw 3 or 4 years ago.

    I think Cane is close to being done. The head and neck injuries are mounting up. I think his body will give up the ghost. He tackles like a demon. I’m not debating that. But I can see little things about his game now that look like a tired and beaten player and I don’t think Cane lasts much more than next season.

    It was a very good win on the scoreboard. But let’s not act like that was the same team that beat us 2 weeks ago. They gave us the B team. That’s right. Someone did to us what we do to everyone(Except we usually win then too). But I my opinion I saw plenty more to worry about than to crow about.

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    Two intercepts are making us look waaay better than we actually are

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    TJP is a fucking mouthy cock who is wish would fuck entirely off.

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  • SnowyS Offline
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    @raznomore said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    But I my opinion I saw plenty more to worry about than to crow about.

    Haven't really seen or heard any crowing to be honest, and agree with you.

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