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  • canefanC Away
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    canefan
    wrote on last edited by canefan
    #347

    The AC is back, the new boats look pretty scary and exciting in equal measure.

    Here is footage of Dean Barker doing what he does best

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12307872

    And here's our boys doing it a little better

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      Machpants
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      #348

      Whoa!

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        RoninWC
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        #349

        Following ETNZ and wow, what they are doing is impressive AF.

        Check out this video, imagine being in the water and seeing this coming straight at you...

        link text

        And make sure you have your sound on!

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        • RoninWCR RoninWC

          Following ETNZ and wow, what they are doing is impressive AF.

          Check out this video, imagine being in the water and seeing this coming straight at you...

          link text

          And make sure you have your sound on!

          canefanC Away
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          canefan
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          #350

          @RoninWC I saw that one. If things go wrong someone could literally get cut up by one of those boats

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          • HoorooH Offline
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            #351

            I am actually looking forward to this Americas cup.

            These boats are pretty spectacular looking and I have got over the gecko on a hot stone look of these and they move out!

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/americas-cup/123618399/americas-cup-the-startling-speed-gains-of-the-new-ac75-boats

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            • mariner4lifeM Online
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              #352

              boats are supposed to go in the water.

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              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                boats are supposed to go in the water.

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                antipodean
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                #353

                @mariner4life said in Americas Cup:

                boats are supposed to go in the water.

                No one's interested in your hollowed out tree trunk canoe racing series. The rest of us want speed.

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                • KiwiwombleK Online
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                  Kiwiwomble
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                  #354

                  I was going to see if there was an existing AC thread

                  big fan, cant wait, wish there were more challenges, a little worried if we win that even fewer challengers will want come down to NZ

                  If Ben Ainsle wins I know it will be an huge event on the isle of Wight

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                  • SnowyS Offline
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                    #355

                    Fluid dynamics taken to levels never seen before, both hydro and aero. Love it. Genuinely the F1 of yachting now.

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                      I don't like it.
                      Because I don't understand it.
                      The foils, and getting out of the water - sure, I can kinda understand that. But how the fuck does a sailing boat go faster than the wind which is propelling it? I don't like it.

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                      • KruseK Kruse

                        I don't like it.
                        Because I don't understand it.
                        The foils, and getting out of the water - sure, I can kinda understand that. But how the fuck does a sailing boat go faster than the wind which is propelling it? I don't like it.

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                        taniwharugby
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                        #357

                        @Kruse it's all Black magic!!

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                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                          @Kruse it's all Black magic!!

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                          Kiwiwomble
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                          @taniwharugby I see what you did there :smirking_face:

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                          • KruseK Kruse

                            I don't like it.
                            Because I don't understand it.
                            The foils, and getting out of the water - sure, I can kinda understand that. But how the fuck does a sailing boat go faster than the wind which is propelling it? I don't like it.

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                            @Kruse said in Americas Cup:

                            But how the fuck does a sailing boat go faster than the wind which is propelling it?

                            Apparent wind.

                            The boat is generating its own wind by moving. Freaky concept ay?

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                            • SnowyS Snowy

                              @Kruse said in Americas Cup:

                              But how the fuck does a sailing boat go faster than the wind which is propelling it?

                              Apparent wind.

                              The boat is generating its own wind by moving. Freaky concept ay?

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                              Kruse
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                              #360

                              @Snowy said in Americas Cup:

                              @Kruse said in Americas Cup:

                              But how the fuck does a sailing boat go faster than the wind which is propelling it?

                              Apparent wind.

                              The boat is generating its own wind by moving. Freaky concept ay?

                              That's bullshit. Any "apparent wind" being created by the boat moving, is in the wrong goddamn direction.
                              I don't like it. Witchcraft has no place in sport.

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                                #361

                                I will ABSOLUTELY watch the thing, every race we compete in. And I dont mind most of the advancements and boat improvents. What I don't love is when 1 boat is just ridiculously more advanced than the rest and its no longer F1, its like putting a Mercedes F1 car in a Saturday morning cart race.

                                Whilst I appreciate and really like having a significant design element to competing, I do want to some level of sailing skill retained.

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                                • voodooV voodoo

                                  I will ABSOLUTELY watch the thing, every race we compete in. And I dont mind most of the advancements and boat improvents. What I don't love is when 1 boat is just ridiculously more advanced than the rest and its no longer F1, its like putting a Mercedes F1 car in a Saturday morning cart race.

                                  Whilst I appreciate and really like having a significant design element to competing, I do want to some level of sailing skill retained.

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                                  @voodoo said in Americas Cup:

                                  I will ABSOLUTELY watch the thing, every race we compete in. And I dont mind most of the advancements and boat improvents. What I don't love is when 1 boat is just ridiculously more advanced than the rest and its no longer F1, its like putting a Mercedes F1 car in a Saturday morning cart race.

                                  Whilst I appreciate and really like having a significant design element to competing, I do want to some level of sailing skill retained.

                                  You have the olympics for that!

                                  This is the money men races.

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                                  • KruseK Kruse

                                    @Snowy said in Americas Cup:

                                    @Kruse said in Americas Cup:

                                    But how the fuck does a sailing boat go faster than the wind which is propelling it?

                                    Apparent wind.

                                    The boat is generating its own wind by moving. Freaky concept ay?

                                    That's bullshit. Any "apparent wind" being created by the boat moving, is in the wrong goddamn direction.
                                    I don't like it. Witchcraft has no place in sport.

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                                    Snowy
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #363

                                    @Kruse said in Americas Cup:

                                    @Snowy said in Americas Cup:

                                    @Kruse said in Americas Cup:

                                    But how the fuck does a sailing boat go faster than the wind which is propelling it?

                                    Apparent wind.

                                    The boat is generating its own wind by moving. Freaky concept ay?

                                    That's bullshit. Any "apparent wind" being created by the boat moving, is in the wrong goddamn direction.
                                    I don't like it. Witchcraft has no place in sport.

                                    Some people call it "science" or even "mathematics" (but it is fucking weird) and is definitely not in the wrong direction. Going forward is what generates "lift" except it is horizontal from the wing. Planes don't fly without airspeed either and that is really witchcraft as well getting hundreds of tonnes into the air. I know that you are taking the piss but it is pretty amazing tech.

                                    You are correct in one sense though, if a boat is sailing directly downwind it can only achieve the speed of the wind. Does that make you feel better?

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                                      Bovidae
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                                      #364

                                      Time to get out my red socks.

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                                      • SnowyS Snowy

                                        @Kruse said in Americas Cup:

                                        @Snowy said in Americas Cup:

                                        @Kruse said in Americas Cup:

                                        But how the fuck does a sailing boat go faster than the wind which is propelling it?

                                        Apparent wind.

                                        The boat is generating its own wind by moving. Freaky concept ay?

                                        That's bullshit. Any "apparent wind" being created by the boat moving, is in the wrong goddamn direction.
                                        I don't like it. Witchcraft has no place in sport.

                                        Some people call it "science" or even "mathematics" (but it is fucking weird) and is definitely not in the wrong direction. Going forward is what generates "lift" except it is horizontal from the wing. Planes don't fly without airspeed either and that is really witchcraft as well getting hundreds of tonnes into the air. I know that you are taking the piss but it is pretty amazing tech.

                                        You are correct in one sense though, if a boat is sailing directly downwind it can only achieve the speed of the wind. Does that make you feel better?

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                                        Machpants
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #365

                                        @Snowy said in Americas Cup:

                                        @Kruse said in Americas Cup:

                                        @Snowy said in Americas Cup:

                                        @Kruse said in Americas Cup:

                                        But how the fuck does a sailing boat go faster than the wind which is propelling it?

                                        Apparent wind.

                                        The boat is generating its own wind by moving. Freaky concept ay?

                                        That's bullshit. Any "apparent wind" being created by the boat moving, is in the wrong goddamn direction.
                                        I don't like it. Witchcraft has no place in sport.

                                        Some people call it "science" or even "mathematics" (but it is fucking weird) and is definitely not in the wrong direction. Going forward is what generates "lift" except it is horizontal from the wing. Planes don't fly without airspeed either and that is really witchcraft as well getting hundreds of tonnes into the air. I know that you are taking the piss but it is pretty amazing tech.

                                        You are correct in one sense though, if a boat is sailing directly downwind it can only achieve the speed of the wind. Does that make you feel better?

                                        Whatever you do, @Kruse don't look into quantum level science!

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                                        • SnowyS Snowy

                                          @Kruse said in Americas Cup:

                                          @Snowy said in Americas Cup:

                                          @Kruse said in Americas Cup:

                                          But how the fuck does a sailing boat go faster than the wind which is propelling it?

                                          Apparent wind.

                                          The boat is generating its own wind by moving. Freaky concept ay?

                                          That's bullshit. Any "apparent wind" being created by the boat moving, is in the wrong goddamn direction.
                                          I don't like it. Witchcraft has no place in sport.

                                          Some people call it "science" or even "mathematics" (but it is fucking weird) and is definitely not in the wrong direction. Going forward is what generates "lift" except it is horizontal from the wing. Planes don't fly without airspeed either and that is really witchcraft as well getting hundreds of tonnes into the air. I know that you are taking the piss but it is pretty amazing tech.

                                          You are correct in one sense though, if a boat is sailing directly downwind it can only achieve the speed of the wind. Does that make you feel better?

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                                          nzzp
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                                          #366

                                          @Snowy said in Americas Cup:

                                          You are correct in one sense though, if a boat is sailing directly downwind it can only achieve the speed of the wind. Does that make you feel better?

                                          Sailing, yes.

                                          On land, however, downwind faster than the wind is a 'thing'

                                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackbird_(land_yacht)

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