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Chiefs 2021

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  • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

    @Bovidae Excellent. I miss watching that big machine play. So he should get the whole Trans Ta$man comp to get him up to speed for the international season.

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    @Daffy-Jaffy here's hoping

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      James O'Connor for that extra spot?

      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/super-rugby-aotearoa-wallabies-superstar-keen-to-join-new-zealand-franchise-for-2021-season/TJN4XJEC6IANH2Y5T2QZOP2RSE/

      https://twitter.com/liamnapiernz/status/1337172095050997760

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        I hope not. The Chiefs need to fill holes in other positions.

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        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

          James O'Connor for that extra spot?

          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/super-rugby-aotearoa-wallabies-superstar-keen-to-join-new-zealand-franchise-for-2021-season/TJN4XJEC6IANH2Y5T2QZOP2RSE/

          https://twitter.com/liamnapiernz/status/1337172095050997760

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          @KiwiMurph Geez, why????????????????

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            i would take him over any of our 10 options

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            • BovidaeB Bovidae

              I hope not. The Chiefs need to fill holes in other positions.

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              @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2021:

              I hope not. The Chiefs need to fill holes in other positions.

              Me too, terrible call if they go down that route.

              It would probably make us stronger but at the expense of developing a local talent. Yuck.

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              • gt12G gt12

                @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2021:

                I hope not. The Chiefs need to fill holes in other positions.

                Me too, terrible call if they go down that route.

                It would probably make us stronger but at the expense of developing a local talent. Yuck.

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                @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2021:

                I hope not. The Chiefs need to fill holes in other positions.

                Me too, terrible call if they go down that route.

                It would probably make us stronger but at the expense of developing a local talent. Yuck.

                I would rather win the comp than develop talent that ends up being rubbish

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                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                  i would take him over any of our 10 options

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                  @mariner4life said in Chiefs 2021:

                  i would take him over any of our 10 options

                  He’s better, but that’s not a good enough reason for me - we need to hold on and develop our existing options as he’ll only stick around for a year.

                  We could also argue that putting Dmac at 10 might be our best option - at least that would open up 15 for Trask.

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                  • HoorooH Hooroo

                    @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                    @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2021:

                    I hope not. The Chiefs need to fill holes in other positions.

                    Me too, terrible call if they go down that route.

                    It would probably make us stronger but at the expense of developing a local talent. Yuck.

                    I would rather win the comp than develop talent that ends up being rubbish

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                    @Hooroo said in Chiefs 2021:

                    @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                    @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2021:

                    I hope not. The Chiefs need to fill holes in other positions.

                    Me too, terrible call if they go down that route.

                    It would probably make us stronger but at the expense of developing a local talent. Yuck.

                    I would rather win the comp than develop talent that ends up being rubbish

                    He’s not a Dan Carter level talent, and he won’t be the winning of the competition (despite being a fantastic player). We still won’t be strong enough up front - and he’ll cost money we could use elsewhere more effectively.

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                    • gt12G gt12

                      @mariner4life said in Chiefs 2021:

                      i would take him over any of our 10 options

                      He’s better, but that’s not a good enough reason for me - we need to hold on and develop our existing options as he’ll only stick around for a year.

                      We could also argue that putting Dmac at 10 might be our best option - at least that would open up 15 for Trask.

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                      @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                      @mariner4life said in Chiefs 2021:

                      i would take him over any of our 10 options

                      He’s better, but that’s not a good enough reason for me - we need to hold on and develop our existing options as he’ll only stick around for a year.

                      We could also argue that putting Dmac at 10 might be our best option - at least that would open up 15 for Trask.

                      yuck

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                      • gt12G gt12

                        @Hooroo said in Chiefs 2021:

                        @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                        @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2021:

                        I hope not. The Chiefs need to fill holes in other positions.

                        Me too, terrible call if they go down that route.

                        It would probably make us stronger but at the expense of developing a local talent. Yuck.

                        I would rather win the comp than develop talent that ends up being rubbish

                        He’s not a Dan Carter level talent, and he won’t be the winning of the competition (despite being a fantastic player). We still won’t be strong enough up front - and he’ll cost money we could use elsewhere more effectively.

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                        @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                        @Hooroo said in Chiefs 2021:

                        @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                        @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2021:

                        I hope not. The Chiefs need to fill holes in other positions.

                        Me too, terrible call if they go down that route.

                        It would probably make us stronger but at the expense of developing a local talent. Yuck.

                        I would rather win the comp than develop talent that ends up being rubbish

                        He’s not a Dan Carter level talent, and he won’t be the winning of the competition (despite being a fantastic player). We still won’t be strong enough up front - and he’ll cost money we could use elsewhere more effectively.

                        I kind of meant that I am happy to get in really talented players to help win the thing than establish what could be a bit of rubbish.

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                          Personally I'd prefer this to the Blues potentially picking up Chocobarres. At least O'Connor has had a long career, and might have learnt a thing or two along the way (both on and off the field) that he could pass on to Trask/Reihana etc.

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                          • HoorooH Hooroo

                            @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                            @Hooroo said in Chiefs 2021:

                            @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                            @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2021:

                            I hope not. The Chiefs need to fill holes in other positions.

                            Me too, terrible call if they go down that route.

                            It would probably make us stronger but at the expense of developing a local talent. Yuck.

                            I would rather win the comp than develop talent that ends up being rubbish

                            He’s not a Dan Carter level talent, and he won’t be the winning of the competition (despite being a fantastic player). We still won’t be strong enough up front - and he’ll cost money we could use elsewhere more effectively.

                            I kind of meant that I am happy to get in really talented players to help win the thing than establish what could be a bit of rubbish.

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                            @Hooroo

                            I get that, but its such a short term strategy for a player like him, and the players we have are pretty good - Trask looks class and we need to give him time out there at 10 or 15. By signing this guy, we’re telling one of the form young players that he isn’t good enough.

                            If we signed an international lock to cover for BBBR is be much more on board with the idea as those options still need lots of development.

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                            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                              @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                              @mariner4life said in Chiefs 2021:

                              i would take him over any of our 10 options

                              He’s better, but that’s not a good enough reason for me - we need to hold on and develop our existing options as he’ll only stick around for a year.

                              We could also argue that putting Dmac at 10 might be our best option - at least that would open up 15 for Trask.

                              yuck

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                              gt12
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                              @mariner4life said in Chiefs 2021:

                              @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                              @mariner4life said in Chiefs 2021:

                              i would take him over any of our 10 options

                              He’s better, but that’s not a good enough reason for me - we need to hold on and develop our existing options as he’ll only stick around for a year.

                              We could also argue that putting Dmac at 10 might be our best option - at least that would open up 15 for Trask.

                              yuck

                              I dunno, id be interested to see what he’d go like there. And it would be a good way of taking some pressure off Trask but still have two playmakers.

                              Its really his only way of getting the AB 22 jersey as we cant carry a FB on the bench.

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                              • gt12G gt12

                                @Hooroo

                                I get that, but its such a short term strategy for a player like him, and the players we have are pretty good - Trask looks class and we need to give him time out there at 10 or 15. By signing this guy, we’re telling one of the form young players that he isn’t good enough.

                                If we signed an international lock to cover for BBBR is be much more on board with the idea as those options still need lots of development.

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                                @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                                @Hooroo

                                I get that, but its such a short term strategy for a player like him, and the players we have are pretty good - Trask looks class and we need to give him time out there at 10 or 15. By signing this guy, we’re telling one of the form young players that he isn’t good enough.

                                If we signed an international lock to cover for BBBR is be much more on board with the idea as those options still need lots of development.

                                I don't think it is a short term strategy as if it brings success over a sustained period you end up with a legacy. I support the Chiefs as a fan that wants to see them win. So long as the player has the teams best interest, I don't care where they are from.

                                Through success you have a better academy that can then drive up the local talent and be rid of the dross.

                                Bring in all the outside excellence we can, I say.

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                                • gt12G gt12

                                  @mariner4life said in Chiefs 2021:

                                  @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                                  @mariner4life said in Chiefs 2021:

                                  i would take him over any of our 10 options

                                  He’s better, but that’s not a good enough reason for me - we need to hold on and develop our existing options as he’ll only stick around for a year.

                                  We could also argue that putting Dmac at 10 might be our best option - at least that would open up 15 for Trask.

                                  yuck

                                  I dunno, id be interested to see what he’d go like there. And it would be a good way of taking some pressure off Trask but still have two playmakers.

                                  Its really his only way of getting the AB 22 jersey as we cant carry a FB on the bench.

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                                  @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                                  @mariner4life said in Chiefs 2021:

                                  @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                                  @mariner4life said in Chiefs 2021:

                                  i would take him over any of our 10 options

                                  He’s better, but that’s not a good enough reason for me - we need to hold on and develop our existing options as he’ll only stick around for a year.

                                  We could also argue that putting Dmac at 10 might be our best option - at least that would open up 15 for Trask.

                                  yuck

                                  I dunno, id be interested to see what he’d go like there. And it would be a good way of taking some pressure off Trask but still have two playmakers.

                                  Its really his only way of getting the AB 22 jersey as we cant carry a FB on the bench.

                                  I've seen how he goes there, it's shithouse.

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                                  • HoorooH Hooroo

                                    @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                                    @Hooroo

                                    I get that, but its such a short term strategy for a player like him, and the players we have are pretty good - Trask looks class and we need to give him time out there at 10 or 15. By signing this guy, we’re telling one of the form young players that he isn’t good enough.

                                    If we signed an international lock to cover for BBBR is be much more on board with the idea as those options still need lots of development.

                                    I don't think it is a short term strategy as if it brings success over a sustained period you end up with a legacy. I support the Chiefs as a fan that wants to see them win. So long as the player has the teams best interest, I don't care where they are from.

                                    Through success you have a better academy that can then drive up the local talent and be rid of the dross.

                                    Bring in all the outside excellence we can, I say.

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                                    @Hooroo said in Chiefs 2021:

                                    @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                                    @Hooroo

                                    I get that, but its such a short term strategy for a player like him, and the players we have are pretty good - Trask looks class and we need to give him time out there at 10 or 15. By signing this guy, we’re telling one of the form young players that he isn’t good enough.

                                    If we signed an international lock to cover for BBBR is be much more on board with the idea as those options still need lots of development.

                                    I don't think it is a short term strategy as if it brings success over a sustained period you end up with a legacy. I support the Chiefs as a fan that wants to see them win. So long as the player has the teams best interest, I don't care where they are from.

                                    Through success you have a better academy that can then drive up the local talent and be rid of the dross.

                                    Bring in all the outside excellence we can, I say.

                                    There are only 5 starting spots available for potential AB10s, and I fdon't like us keeping the Oz 10 going while reducing the opportunities to develop another AB 10.

                                    I'm a Chiefs fan, but AB success and the potential to develop future Abs is more important.

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                                      Is he better than all our 10 options right now? Yes
                                      Are any of those 10 options likely to be better than him next year or even the year after? No
                                      Do young players get better when helped by better, more experienced players? yes

                                      It is a signing that ticks a lot of boxes in my eyes

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                                      • gt12G gt12

                                        @Hooroo said in Chiefs 2021:

                                        @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                                        @Hooroo

                                        I get that, but its such a short term strategy for a player like him, and the players we have are pretty good - Trask looks class and we need to give him time out there at 10 or 15. By signing this guy, we’re telling one of the form young players that he isn’t good enough.

                                        If we signed an international lock to cover for BBBR is be much more on board with the idea as those options still need lots of development.

                                        I don't think it is a short term strategy as if it brings success over a sustained period you end up with a legacy. I support the Chiefs as a fan that wants to see them win. So long as the player has the teams best interest, I don't care where they are from.

                                        Through success you have a better academy that can then drive up the local talent and be rid of the dross.

                                        Bring in all the outside excellence we can, I say.

                                        There are only 5 starting spots available for potential AB10s, and I fdon't like us keeping the Oz 10 going while reducing the opportunities to develop another AB 10.

                                        I'm a Chiefs fan, but AB success and the potential to develop future Abs is more important.

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                                        @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                                        @Hooroo said in Chiefs 2021:

                                        @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                                        @Hooroo

                                        I get that, but its such a short term strategy for a player like him, and the players we have are pretty good - Trask looks class and we need to give him time out there at 10 or 15. By signing this guy, we’re telling one of the form young players that he isn’t good enough.

                                        If we signed an international lock to cover for BBBR is be much more on board with the idea as those options still need lots of development.

                                        I don't think it is a short term strategy as if it brings success over a sustained period you end up with a legacy. I support the Chiefs as a fan that wants to see them win. So long as the player has the teams best interest, I don't care where they are from.

                                        Through success you have a better academy that can then drive up the local talent and be rid of the dross.

                                        Bring in all the outside excellence we can, I say.

                                        There are only 5 starting spots available for potential AB10s, and I fdon't like us keeping the Oz 10 going while reducing the opportunities to develop another AB 10.

                                        I'm a Chiefs fan, but AB success and the potential to develop future Abs is more important.

                                        are we really thinking he is holding back a potential test player? really? Trask is probably the best, and is he looking like a test player next year?

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                                          Disgusting! I sure hope this is not true. Very poor form from the Chiefs if it is. Poor Fletcher Smith, forced out altogether. And what does it do for Kaleb Trask and Bryn Gatland, both hoping for decent game time this year?

                                          I would have thought a big bruising runner at Number 8 or lock would have been a better addition by far. And they still look to be a quality winger short. If they do sign O'Connor, I hope they play him on the wing.

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