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  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

    Even the wife enjoyed that race

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    @Kiwiwomble was a pretty crazy race that one.

    Right now, TNZ boat looks the fastest, saving them. But Barker then Spittle the best sailors, Ainslie well back from BUrling though.

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    • antipodeanA antipodean

      Surely New Zealand can do better than Burling?

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      @antipodean

      The guy that won the last America’s Cup you mean?

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        I speculated above as to why we might be a bit better in overall boat speed but struggling at the starts. Wind speed and foil selection. We're gambling a bit, testing, foils and setup combos (so is everyone else of course). Conditions are likely to be similar right through summer (average 10.8 to 11.3kts). That is not to say there won't be large deviations from that, but I think that is what we are trying to perfect, and it has been lighter than that this week.

        As for the sailors / skippers - one of the comms (probably Lester) made an interesting comment about the relative backgrounds of Barker and Burling. Barker is a match racer. Burling mostly fleet races (Olympic silver, gold and 6 time world champion). Big difference in attitude. Barker needs to win the start, get in front and cover. Burling backs himself to pick the shifts, pressure, tide, current and get boat speed around the course. So reactive v proactive.

        In the cats Burling's approach was successful because they were really match races in name only, it was a drag race and boat speed (and VMG) was king. In San Fran we know what happened to Barker, once Oracle had a competitive boat he needed to pick a shift, get separation, pressure, tide and just get one win.

        With AC 75s both come in to play which is making it even more interesting I reckon.

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          Just watched a highlights package this morning.

          Quite spectacular.

          Mrs Boo commented the boats look like the Captain Shakespeare's airship from Stardust.

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            Embarrassing for UK. Forced into a turn to go over the start line, of fthe foils, penalty going out of field, still not on the foils

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              Then NZ fucked it it on their final turn into last leg, both boats off foils, sailing at 6 8 knots. NZ is final leg, UK not into second tho

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                Then NZ fucked it it on their final turn into last leg, both boats off foils, sailing at 6 8 knots. NZ is final leg, UK not into second tho

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                @Machpants this is pretty funny, just a regular Sunday sail!

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                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                  @Machpants this is pretty funny, just a regular Sunday sail!

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                  @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                  @Machpants this is pretty funny, just a regular Sunday sail!

                  Yeah pretty dull, I don't think they'll finish

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                    @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                    @Machpants this is pretty funny, just a regular Sunday sail!

                    Yeah pretty dull, I don't think they'll finish

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                    @Machpants last time I was out sailing I was stoked when we got upto 8-10 knots!

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                      haha, TNZ 100m from the finish, but over the 45min time limit, race abandoned and to be raced again later

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                        If has cut their losses earlier, the would have made it, two attempts to get up on foils rather then displace towards the finish line cost them.

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                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                          haha, TNZ 100m from the finish, but over the 45min time limit, race abandoned and to be raced again later

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                          @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                          haha, TNZ 100m from the finish, but over the 45min time limit, race abandoned and to be raced again later

                          Sounds like it is just as well, we need more live fire practice!! Bloody funny having a 45 minute time limit, I recall the 12m races taking farken ages back in the day. Bloody exciting still

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                            @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                            haha, TNZ 100m from the finish, but over the 45min time limit, race abandoned and to be raced again later

                            Sounds like it is just as well, we need more live fire practice!! Bloody funny having a 45 minute time limit, I recall the 12m races taking farken ages back in the day. Bloody exciting still

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                            @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                            @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                            haha, TNZ 100m from the finish, but over the 45min time limit, race abandoned and to be raced again later

                            Sounds like it is just as well, we need more live fire practice!! Bloody funny having a 45 minute time limit, I recall the 12m races taking farken ages back in the day. Bloody exciting still

                            Not just as well at all, that was TNZ's last chance for an actual race. Problem was wind started at 7kt, min is 6.5, and it dropped therefore no foiling

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                              was it a 45 min limit too that stopped us in the pivotal race in San Fran all those years back that launched arguably the biggest choke ever?

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                was it a 45 min limit too that stopped us in the pivotal race in San Fran all those years back that launched arguably the biggest choke ever?

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                                @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                                was it a 45 min limit too that stopped us in the pivotal race in San Fran all those years back that launched arguably the biggest choke ever?

                                Yup. Finish line in sight. The rest was history

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                                  @antipodean

                                  The guy that won the last America’s Cup you mean?

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                                  @DaGrubster said in Americas Cup:

                                  @antipodean

                                  The guy that won the last America’s Cup you mean?

                                  On a clearly faster boat. Can we say the same this time? He's clearly a better sailor than me, but if this requires match racing are you as confident based on what we've seen thus far?

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                                  • antipodeanA antipodean

                                    @DaGrubster said in Americas Cup:

                                    @antipodean

                                    The guy that won the last America’s Cup you mean?

                                    On a clearly faster boat. Can we say the same this time? He's clearly a better sailor than me, but if this requires match racing are you as confident based on what we've seen thus far?

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                                    @antipodean said in Americas Cup:

                                    On a clearly faster boat.

                                    That old saying about the "fastest boat wins the Americas cup" is around for a reason.

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                                      Given what beasts these boats are and the fact TNZ only launched this boat less than 4 weeks before racing, I would cut Burling and his crew some slack.

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                                      • dogmeatD dogmeat

                                        Given what beasts these boats are and the fact TNZ only launched this boat less than 4 weeks before racing, I would cut Burling and his crew some slack.

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                                        @dogmeat said in Americas Cup:

                                        Given what beasts these boats are and the fact TNZ only launched this boat less than 4 weeks before racing, I would cut Burling and his crew some slack.

                                        No - we're results oriented here. Success immediately or nothing!

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                                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                                          @dogmeat said in Americas Cup:

                                          Given what beasts these boats are and the fact TNZ only launched this boat less than 4 weeks before racing, I would cut Burling and his crew some slack.

                                          No - we're results oriented here. Success immediately or nothing!

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                                          @antipodean said in Americas Cup:

                                          @dogmeat said in Americas Cup:

                                          Given what beasts these boats are and the fact TNZ only launched this boat less than 4 weeks before racing, I would cut Burling and his crew some slack.

                                          No - we're results oriented here. Success immediately or nothing!

                                          TSF, we're a tough crowd here!!

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