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Black Caps v Pakistan

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  • SnowyS Snowy

    @MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    @Snowy said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    We lost the toss (again - get it sorted Kane). Pakistan bowling.

    Nice day in The Bay it seems.

    Santner is in (hmmm).

    Rosco most capped NZ cricketer of all time.

    The fuck ????? I’d rather Jordie Barrett get 100 caps than see him in a test cricket team

    Yeah I know. Justification seems to be that he got three wickets at Bay Oval and a ton there I think. They don't don't see Jamieson as an all rounder so he is it. There has only ever been one test at Bay Oval (v England) so hardly a massive sample size to select him. Jamieson may also be a better bat anyway, he was an opener in the past.

    I am not convinced at all.

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    @Snowy said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    @MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    @Snowy said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    We lost the toss (again - get it sorted Kane). Pakistan bowling.

    Nice day in The Bay it seems.

    Santner is in (hmmm).

    Rosco most capped NZ cricketer of all time.

    The fuck ????? I’d rather Jordie Barrett get 100 caps than see him in a test cricket team

    Yeah I know. Justification seems to be that he got three wickets at Bay Oval and a ton there I think. They don't don't see Jamieson as an all rounder so he is it. There has only ever been one test at Bay Oval (v England) so hardly a massive sample size to select him. Jamieson may also be a better bat anyway, he was an opener in the past.

    I am not convinced at all.

    He’s never taken more than three wickets in an innings in quite a few tests.

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      Damo
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      Santner is an allrounder.

      Test averages of 25 and 44.

      Jamieson on the other hand averages:

      54 and 14.5.

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      • DamoD Damo

        Santner is an allrounder.

        Test averages of 25 and 44.

        Jamieson on the other hand averages:

        54 and 14.5.

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        Damo
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        #221

        @Damo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

        Santner is an allrounder.

        Test averages of 25 and 44.

        Jamieson on the other hand averages:

        54 and 14.5.

        Just to put Santners all rounder statistics in perspective.

        The 19 run differential between bat and ball compares to Jacques Kallis who averaged 32 and 55 to make a 23 run differential.

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        • DamoD Damo

          Santner is an allrounder.

          Test averages of 25 and 44.

          Jamieson on the other hand averages:

          54 and 14.5.

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          #222

          @Damo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

          Santner is an allrounder.

          Test averages of 25 and 44.

          Jamieson on the other hand averages:

          54 and 14.5.

          Not quite sure what you are getting at there? That is batting average of 25 and bowling at 44, not the other way around. Basically he doesn't score many runs and doesn't take many wickets per run conceded. That isn't an allrounder, in fact it doesn't qualify as a batsman or a bowler. White ball different story.

          Jamieson (small sample size of 4 tests) but batting at 54 and bowling at 14.5 would suggest that he's better at both disciplines.

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            Meanwhile, Pakistan waste a review.

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            • DamoD Damo

              @Damo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

              Santner is an allrounder.

              Test averages of 25 and 44.

              Jamieson on the other hand averages:

              54 and 14.5.

              Just to put Santners all rounder statistics in perspective.

              The 19 run differential between bat and ball compares to Jacques Kallis who averaged 32 and 55 to make a 23 run differential.

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              MN5
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              @Damo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

              @Damo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

              Santner is an allrounder.

              Test averages of 25 and 44.

              Jamieson on the other hand averages:

              54 and 14.5.

              Just to put Santners all rounder statistics in perspective.

              The 19 run differential between bat and ball compares to Jacques Kallis who averaged 32 and 55 to make a 23 run differential.

              This post is unintentionally hilarious.

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              • MN5M MN5

                @Damo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                @Damo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                Santner is an allrounder.

                Test averages of 25 and 44.

                Jamieson on the other hand averages:

                54 and 14.5.

                Just to put Santners all rounder statistics in perspective.

                The 19 run differential between bat and ball compares to Jacques Kallis who averaged 32 and 55 to make a 23 run differential.

                This post is unintentionally hilarious.

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                Damo
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                @MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                @Damo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                @Damo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                Santner is an allrounder.

                Test averages of 25 and 44.

                Jamieson on the other hand averages:

                54 and 14.5.

                Just to put Santners all rounder statistics in perspective.

                The 19 run differential between bat and ball compares to Jacques Kallis who averaged 32 and 55 to make a 23 run differential.

                This post is unintentionally hilarious.

                Unintentionally?

                I put a lot of thought into that post.

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                • SnowyS Snowy

                  We lost the toss (again - get it sorted Kane). Pakistan bowling.

                  Nice day in The Bay it seems.

                  Santner is in (hmmm).

                  Rosco most capped NZ cricketer of all time.

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                  Godder
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                  @Snowy said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                  We lost the toss (again - get it sorted Kane). Pakistan bowling.

                  Nice day in The Bay it seems.

                  Santner is in (hmmm).

                  Rosco most capped NZ cricketer of all time.

                  Southee and Boult bring up their 100th innings opening the bowling together, and Stuff has them as second on the all time list.

                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/black-caps/123694750/tim-southee-and-trent-boult-reach-historic-milestone-as-black-caps-newball-pair

                  Stuff thinks Anderson and Broad are first, Wasim and Waqar third, then Ambrose and Walsh, and McGrath and Gillespie.

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                  • G Godder

                    @Snowy said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                    We lost the toss (again - get it sorted Kane). Pakistan bowling.

                    Nice day in The Bay it seems.

                    Santner is in (hmmm).

                    Rosco most capped NZ cricketer of all time.

                    Southee and Boult bring up their 100th innings opening the bowling together, and Stuff has them as second on the all time list.

                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/black-caps/123694750/tim-southee-and-trent-boult-reach-historic-milestone-as-black-caps-newball-pair

                    Stuff thinks Anderson and Broad are first, Wasim and Waqar third, then Ambrose and Walsh, and McGrath and Gillespie.

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                    MN5
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                    @Godder said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                    @Snowy said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                    We lost the toss (again - get it sorted Kane). Pakistan bowling.

                    Nice day in The Bay it seems.

                    Santner is in (hmmm).

                    Rosco most capped NZ cricketer of all time.

                    Southee and Boult bring up their 100th innings opening the bowling together, and Stuff has them as second on the all time list.

                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/black-caps/123694750/tim-southee-and-trent-boult-reach-historic-milestone-as-black-caps-newball-pair

                    Stuff thinks Anderson and Broad are first, Wasim and Waqar third, then Ambrose and Walsh, and McGrath and Gillespie.

                    Actual quote from a typically brilliantly crafted Stuff article.

                    “I feel like I’ve bowled a lot with Timmy, but not that many times,” he says

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                    • NepiaN Nepia

                      @Gunner I don't care about cricket. This is the worst time for me on the Fern.

                      I'm glad that my cricket loving friends and whanau can watch cricket live at McLean Park though, and if it also annoys BoP fans in the process then that's just a bonus.

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                      @Nepia said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                      @Gunner I don't care about cricket. This is the worst time for me on the Fern.

                      I'm glad that my cricket loving friends and whanau can watch cricket live at McLean Park though, and if it also annoys BoP fans in the process then that's just a bonus.

                      I can see why BoP fans would be annoyed.

                      Why should the Northern Districts Invitational XI have to play any games away from Bay Oval?

                      It's outrageous!

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                        MN5
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                        #229

                        Little Kane with a Trevor Franklinish strike rate here....what’s going on ?

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                        • MN5M MN5

                          Little Kane with a Trevor Franklinish strike rate here....what’s going on ?

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                          canefan
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                          @MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                          Little Kane with a Trevor Franklinish strike rate here....what’s going on ?

                          Been a tough first session. Survival is the most important goal

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                            Meanwhile, up in Cricket Valhalla, there's an ad break on the telly.

                            Sir Jack Berry Hobbs nudges Stewie Dempster in the ribs. "You still don't make that team, Stewie!" 🙂

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                              Gunner
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                              Only following on cricinfo, but seems like pretty tough batting conditions this morning.

                              Kane and Ross battling away, hopefully things will be a bit easier after lunch and these two can keep going.

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                                Honours even after first session. If pitch dries up and flattens out we could do well.

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                                  There's something oddly comforting about KW and Taylor batting together even it is only lunch on the first day.

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                                    Godder
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                                    Speaking of which, 100 partnership up, their 10th and Taylor also brings up his 50. Cricinfo thinks 10 century partnerships is NZ's most for any pair.

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                                      Gunner
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                                      Really good batting from these two, who have batted for pretty much two sessions after coming together at 2 for bugger all.

                                      Batting got easier in that last 30-40 minutes, so here’s hoping they and the middle order can push on and capitalise on the good position they’ve got us into.

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                                      • G Gunner

                                        Really good batting from these two, who have batted for pretty much two sessions after coming together at 2 for bugger all.

                                        Batting got easier in that last 30-40 minutes, so here’s hoping they and the middle order can push on and capitalise on the good position they’ve got us into.

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                                        @Gunner said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                                        Really good batting from these two, who have batted for pretty much two sessions after coming together at 2 for bugger all.

                                        Batting got easier in that last 30-40 minutes, so here’s hoping they and the middle order can push on and capitalise on the good position they’ve got us into.

                                        Time to put the hurt on them in the final session

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                                        • DamoD Damo

                                          Santner is an allrounder.

                                          Test averages of 25 and 44.

                                          Jamieson on the other hand averages:

                                          54 and 14.5.

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                                          #238

                                          @Damo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                                          Santner is an allrounder.

                                          Test averages of 25 and 44.

                                          Jamieson on the other hand averages:

                                          54 and 14.5.

                                          That's because they're smart enough not to treat him like an allrounder.

                                          He'd be averaging neither of those numbers if he batted at 7 and bowled with a ball 50 overs old before he touched it.

                                          He's a kid concentrating on his core role. His batting is a bonus so far , looks organized, but his run output so far is based on aerial pulls, hooks, and slogs off spinners.

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