Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****
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@Kiwiwomble and Grogu loves holding his smooth ball
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@Nepia said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
Can you do one about wiping the the prequels from my, um, their memory?
No, the prequels have been proven to be far superior to the sequels.
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@MN5 100%
they have huge faults...but at least they more or less work as a trilogy and connect to the originals
now looking back I think one change would "fix" the prequels...make Anakin like 5 years older and a bit of a street urchin (using the force to pick pockets, maybe in the podrace he uses the force to drop a bolder in front of someone), relationship with pademe is less creepy and showing he already had a bit of dark side in him would explain why his fall was so quick
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@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Nepia said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
Can you do one about wiping the the prequels from my, um, their memory?
No, the prequels have been proven to be far superior to the sequels.
They're rubbish, no matter how much revisionists like to convince themselves they're not, even Dave Feloni's explanation of them which is supposed to make them better doesn't make them better.
I never want to subject myself to them again. TBF, the 3rd of the sequels was of the same standard.
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@Nepia out of curiosity when was the last time you watched them?
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@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Nepia out of curiosity when was the last time you watched them?
Last year, I did a rewatch to see if they were as bad as I remembered, they were worse.
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@Nepia we did the same, wifes idea which was a pleasant surprise, and I thought they were better. There was a bit of the cool stuff they introduced outweighed a lot of the bad stuff. I actually came out of it thinking Ep 1 was better than Ep 2, the whole awkward love story just ruined the first half
I also saw all the good stuff people talk about in the last jedi and came to the conclusion its a solid film that tries to do some good/different stuff...it just doesn't fit in this epic series of films, the penultimate film is not the time to shoot off in a different direction
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@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Nepia we did the same, wifes idea which was a pleasant surprise, and I thought they were better. There was a bit of the cool stuff they introduced outweighed a lot of the bad stuff. I actually came out of it thinking Ep 1 was better than Ep 2, the whole awkward love story just ruined the first half
I also saw all the good stuff people talk about in the last jedi and came to the conclusion its a solid film that tries to do some good/different stuff...it just doesn't fit in this epic series of films, the penultimate film is not the time to shoot off in a different direction
It was the opposite for me, all the cool stuff got outweighed by all the crap and at times I had to stop all 3 to laugh at various points.
I genuinely like The Last Jedi (aside from the casino planet diversion) and thought TFA was a good comeback film (unlike TPM). Really, really, really hated the 3rd one though. But, I love Rogue One, Mando and enjoyed Solo so it's mostly all good for me for the new lot.
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@Nepia said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Nepia said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
Can you do one about wiping the the prequels from my, um, their memory?
No, the prequels have been proven to be far superior to the sequels.
They're rubbish, no matter how much revisionists like to convince themselves they're not, even Dave Feloni's explanation of them which is supposed to make them better doesn't make them better.
I never want to subject myself to them again. TBF, the 3rd of the sequels was of the same standard.
No they’re not. If anything the sequels ( particularly the Last Jedi ) have made any number of people realise they’re very good in their own right.
The latest trilogy cost the franchise loads of fans, thanks god Mando came along to set things right.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 100%
they have huge faults...but at least they more or less work as a trilogy and connect to the originals
now looking back I think one change would "fix" the prequels...make Anakin like 5 years older and a bit of a street urchin (using the force to pick pockets, maybe in the podrace he uses the force to drop a bolder in front of someone), relationship with pademe is less creepy and showing he already had a bit of dark side in him would explain why his fall was so quick
Yep. They could eff off TPM and go straight to number 2. We could then have learned more about his background as the series progressed. Ultimately Lucas was unashamedly targeting kids. Kids loved it while older fans didn’t.
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@Nepia said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Nepia we did the same, wifes idea which was a pleasant surprise, and I thought they were better. There was a bit of the cool stuff they introduced outweighed a lot of the bad stuff. I actually came out of it thinking Ep 1 was better than Ep 2, the whole awkward love story just ruined the first half
I also saw all the good stuff people talk about in the last jedi and came to the conclusion its a solid film that tries to do some good/different stuff...it just doesn't fit in this epic series of films, the penultimate film is not the time to shoot off in a different direction
It was the opposite for me, all the cool stuff got outweighed by all the crap and at times I had to stop all 3 to laugh at various points.
I genuinely like The Last Jedi (aside from the casino planet diversion) and thought TFA was a good comeback film (unlike TPM). Really, really, really hated the 3rd one though. But, I love Rogue One, Mando and enjoyed Solo so it's mostly all good for me for the new lot.
How could you genuinely like that film? It shat all over Luke and just farked the entire story up. It also crapped all over SW lore. How tf did Yoda summon lightening in the real world and the kamikaze manoevre???? That film was a hot mess. It looked beautiful. Probably the nicest looking SW film but that didn’t balance out the absurd plot and raping of Luke.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 100%
they have huge faults...but at least they more or less work as a trilogy and connect to the originals
now looking back I think one change would "fix" the prequels...make Anakin like 5 years older and a bit of a street urchin (using the force to pick pockets, maybe in the podrace he uses the force to drop a bolder in front of someone), relationship with pademe is less creepy and showing he already had a bit of dark side in him would explain why his fall was so quick
Yep. They could eff off TPM and go straight to number 2. We could then have learned more about his background as the series progressed. Ultimately Lucas was unashamedly targeting kids. Kids loved it while older fans didn’t.
I remember reading about the Machete order for viewing, 4,5,1,2,3,6. So you get the prequels as a flashback after the "No, I am your father"
And then someone went back and worked out you can cut 1 out all together as everyone we see in subsequent movies gets another introduction or explanation of who they are and things like midaclorians are only mentioned in TPM...never again
BUT!....now after re watching, and realising how bad the middle of Ep2 is...I wouldn't want that to be the start of the prequels
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@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Nepia said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Nepia said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
Can you do one about wiping the the prequels from my, um, their memory?
No, the prequels have been proven to be far superior to the sequels.
They're rubbish, no matter how much revisionists like to convince themselves they're not, even Dave Feloni's explanation of them which is supposed to make them better doesn't make them better.
I never want to subject myself to them again. TBF, the 3rd of the sequels was of the same standard.
No they’re not. If anything the sequels ( particularly the Last Jedi ) have made any number of people realise they’re very good in their own right.
The latest trilogy cost the franchise loads of fans, thanks god Mando came along to set things right.
And Mando has also exposed the bs and insulting claims that the angry or lost fans were all a load of racist misogynists. It was always about story and good, well developed characters. Get that part right nobody gives a shit what colour they are, whether they have a cöck or what they do in the sack.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Nepia said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Nepia we did the same, wifes idea which was a pleasant surprise, and I thought they were better. There was a bit of the cool stuff they introduced outweighed a lot of the bad stuff. I actually came out of it thinking Ep 1 was better than Ep 2, the whole awkward love story just ruined the first half
I also saw all the good stuff people talk about in the last jedi and came to the conclusion its a solid film that tries to do some good/different stuff...it just doesn't fit in this epic series of films, the penultimate film is not the time to shoot off in a different direction
It was the opposite for me, all the cool stuff got outweighed by all the crap and at times I had to stop all 3 to laugh at various points.
I genuinely like The Last Jedi (aside from the casino planet diversion) and thought TFA was a good comeback film (unlike TPM). Really, really, really hated the 3rd one though. But, I love Rogue One, Mando and enjoyed Solo so it's mostly all good for me for the new lot.
How could you genuinely like that film? It shat all over Luke and just farked the entire story up. It also crapped all over SW lore. How tf did Yoda summon lightening in the real world and the kamikaze manoevre???? That film was a hot mess. It looked beautiful. Probably the nicest looking SW film but that didn’t balance out the absurd plot and raping of Luke.
the whole premise was so flawed...they can stay just far enough away.....why not jump past and then jump back and come at them from both sides!!! and you can very clearly see the shuttles leaving....but they seem to think they are undetected
and the casino side quest that ultimately was pointless other than forcing a moral of even the good side deal with "bad" people
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@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 100%
they have huge faults...but at least they more or less work as a trilogy and connect to the originals
now looking back I think one change would "fix" the prequels...make Anakin like 5 years older and a bit of a street urchin (using the force to pick pockets, maybe in the podrace he uses the force to drop a bolder in front of someone), relationship with pademe is less creepy and showing he already had a bit of dark side in him would explain why his fall was so quick
Yep. They could eff off TPM and go straight to number 2. We could then have learned more about his background as the series progressed. Ultimately Lucas was unashamedly targeting kids. Kids loved it while older fans didn’t.
I remember reading about the Machete order for viewing, 4,5,1,2,3,6. So you get the prequels as a flashback after the No, I am your father
And then someone went back and worked out you can cut 1 out all together as everyone we see in subsequent movies gets another introduction or explanation of who they are and things like midaclorians are only mentioned in TPM...never again
BUT!....now after re watching, and realising how bad the middle of Ep2 is...I wouldn't want that to be the start of the prequels
Good point. The start of EP2 made EP1 look brilliant. In defence of EP2 the arena scenes were incredible. The Fett scenes were cool as well.
They should have started with the Separatist thing with Dooku and not that Trade Federation crap. Perhaps Anniken could have been orphaned in the Clone Wars?
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@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Nepia said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Nepia we did the same, wifes idea which was a pleasant surprise, and I thought they were better. There was a bit of the cool stuff they introduced outweighed a lot of the bad stuff. I actually came out of it thinking Ep 1 was better than Ep 2, the whole awkward love story just ruined the first half
I also saw all the good stuff people talk about in the last jedi and came to the conclusion its a solid film that tries to do some good/different stuff...it just doesn't fit in this epic series of films, the penultimate film is not the time to shoot off in a different direction
It was the opposite for me, all the cool stuff got outweighed by all the crap and at times I had to stop all 3 to laugh at various points.
I genuinely like The Last Jedi (aside from the casino planet diversion) and thought TFA was a good comeback film (unlike TPM). Really, really, really hated the 3rd one though. But, I love Rogue One, Mando and enjoyed Solo so it's mostly all good for me for the new lot.
How could you genuinely like that film? It shat all over Luke and just farked the entire story up. It also crapped all over SW lore. How tf did Yoda summon lightening in the real world and the kamikaze manoevre???? That film was a hot mess. It looked beautiful. Probably the nicest looking SW film but that didn’t balance out the absurd plot and raping of Luke.
the whole premise was so flawed...they can stay just far enough away.....why not jump past and then jump back and come at them from both sides!!! and you can very clearly see the shuttles leaving....but they seem to think they are undetected
and the casino side quest that ultimately was pointless other than forcing a moral of even the good side deal with "bad" people
It was absolutely ridiculous. Why not send fighters after them? And these things run out of fuel? And don’t start me on the bombers.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel bombers were in Ep9 but year...WTF? and that scene started so well with Poe being a smart arse and attacking on his own....and then space has gravity now
edit: no, your right...they are Ep8...even worse!
