Black Caps v Pakistan

canefan

@Siam said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

Don't know if this has been covered on this thread but the radio coverage posed this question:

Who was the last kiwi bowler to get 10 wickets in a test before KJ?

No cheating, use your brain

I’ll go Boult or Southee

Or Bond

Cyclops

@KiwiMurph said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@Siam Mark Craig?

Craig got 10 in the UAE in Vettori's final test (comeback special). Boult got 10 againstthe Windies atthe Basin last time they were here. I don't quite remember the order of those series but I think you're right about Craig.

Before Boult might have been Bracewell's 10 in Hobart, I think it's been a while since Southee got his.

Godder

The most recent 3 in order are Craig, then Boult (both as above), then Southee at Lords. D Bracewell got 9 (J Bracewell did get 10 against Australia, but that was in Auckland in 1986).

LABCAT

Vettori definitely has a few, it is only him and Hadlee that have better figures for a match than Jamieson achieved today (I think 4th best?).

Godder

@LABCAT said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

Vettori definitely has a few, it is only him and Hadlee that have better figures for a match than Jamieson achieved today (I think 4th best?).

Today's return is NZ's 6th best, but you're right that only Hadlee and Vettori have better figures.

Someone asked if getting 10 in the 6th test is NZ's fastest, but apparently that was Jack Cowie who got 10 in his 2nd test. Chris Pringle got 11 in his 3rd test, also against Pakistan, as did Mark Craig which was also against Pakistan.

MN5

Didn’t Dion Nash get his 10fer very early on in his career ?

mariner4life

@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

Didn’t Dion Nash get his 10fer very early on in his career ?

He's definitely on the board at Lords

Godder

@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

Didn’t Dion Nash get his 10fer very early on in his career ?

That was his 5th test. He also scored a 50.

MN5

@Godder said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

Didn’t Dion Nash get his 10fer very early on in his career ?

That was his 5th test. He also scored a 50.

Decent player but let’s hope Jamieson surpasses him

Gunner

Well work today is going to suck without the cricket commentary in the background!

delicatessen

@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@nzzp said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@Hooroo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@nzzp said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@Hooroo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

What a special special team.

I'm explaining to my lad that this isn't normal for NZ cricket and to revel in it while we can. Best test team I can remember

I actually get a bit angry when I hear people saying they are waiting for the Black Craps to turn up.

We haven't been rubbish since McCullum and Hesson took over the team. There have been blips but it has been an upwards trajectory the whole way. This helps for the future of NZ cricket too as kids watch their idols at the top of the world!

Spot on. We've been steadily improving for quite a few years now. That said, this team is full of green generational talent for us... Similar to the great Aussie side of the late 90s. Just so many great players at the same time.

Kyle is a hell of a find. Remarkable player.

Spot on. Henry Nicholls will go to bed tonight with a test batting average of 43.91. Yet in terms of longevity/talent/impact etc I still think he's comfortably the 4th best batsman in this team.

We also have a keeper who is great at his job and scores crucial runs when needed.

Boult has been our main spearhead for a number of years but the reemergence of Southee, Wagner staying angry and Jamieson taking to test cricket better than ANY bowler I can remember possibly puts him at 4th place presently.

We don't have a test class spinner. Fuck it. No team is perfect. Last time we did the rest of the team was shithouse.

It's no coincidence this team is doing so well with the individuals we have running around.

Dammit I thought you were saying this to wind me up and I was about to bite.... but you're not wrong. Can't say Blundell or Watling are better batsmen.

MN5

@delicatessen said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@nzzp said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@Hooroo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@nzzp said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@Hooroo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

What a special special team.

I'm explaining to my lad that this isn't normal for NZ cricket and to revel in it while we can. Best test team I can remember

I actually get a bit angry when I hear people saying they are waiting for the Black Craps to turn up.

We haven't been rubbish since McCullum and Hesson took over the team. There have been blips but it has been an upwards trajectory the whole way. This helps for the future of NZ cricket too as kids watch their idols at the top of the world!

Spot on. We've been steadily improving for quite a few years now. That said, this team is full of green generational talent for us... Similar to the great Aussie side of the late 90s. Just so many great players at the same time.

Kyle is a hell of a find. Remarkable player.

Spot on. Henry Nicholls will go to bed tonight with a test batting average of 43.91. Yet in terms of longevity/talent/impact etc I still think he's comfortably the 4th best batsman in this team.

We also have a keeper who is great at his job and scores crucial runs when needed.

Boult has been our main spearhead for a number of years but the reemergence of Southee, Wagner staying angry and Jamieson taking to test cricket better than ANY bowler I can remember possibly puts him at 4th place presently.

We don't have a test class spinner. Fuck it. No team is perfect. Last time we did the rest of the team was shithouse.

It's no coincidence this team is doing so well with the individuals we have running around.

Dammit I thought you were saying this to wind me up and I was about to bite.... but you're not wrong. Can't say Blundell or Watling are better batsmen.

Watling is extremely reliable but to me he’s still a keeper who just happens to be an excellent batsman. Blundell is still far too green to place any higher than he is.

Gunner

I'll just leave this here

MN5

@Gunner said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

I'll just leave this here

The Bobs and Vagene crowd are in full meltdown mode because he’s never played away from NZ. It’s very rabid and amusing.

What I like most about the big fella is his apparent humbleness, its great to see.

delicatessen

@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@delicatessen said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@nzzp said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@Hooroo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@nzzp said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@Hooroo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

What a special special team.

I'm explaining to my lad that this isn't normal for NZ cricket and to revel in it while we can. Best test team I can remember

I actually get a bit angry when I hear people saying they are waiting for the Black Craps to turn up.

We haven't been rubbish since McCullum and Hesson took over the team. There have been blips but it has been an upwards trajectory the whole way. This helps for the future of NZ cricket too as kids watch their idols at the top of the world!

Spot on. We've been steadily improving for quite a few years now. That said, this team is full of green generational talent for us... Similar to the great Aussie side of the late 90s. Just so many great players at the same time.

Kyle is a hell of a find. Remarkable player.

Spot on. Henry Nicholls will go to bed tonight with a test batting average of 43.91. Yet in terms of longevity/talent/impact etc I still think he's comfortably the 4th best batsman in this team.

We also have a keeper who is great at his job and scores crucial runs when needed.

Boult has been our main spearhead for a number of years but the reemergence of Southee, Wagner staying angry and Jamieson taking to test cricket better than ANY bowler I can remember possibly puts him at 4th place presently.

We don't have a test class spinner. Fuck it. No team is perfect. Last time we did the rest of the team was shithouse.

It's no coincidence this team is doing so well with the individuals we have running around.

Dammit I thought you were saying this to wind me up and I was about to bite.... but you're not wrong. Can't say Blundell or Watling are better batsmen.

Watling is extremely reliable but to me he’s still a keeper who just happens to be an excellent batsman. Blundell is still far too green to place any higher than he is.

Agree. Watlings batting is more based on attrition and grit, where Nicholls is more able to put bad balls away.
Yeh Blundell is green. Don't mind giving him more opportunity to develop, he's shown definite talent and hasn't gotten out to indisciplined shots this summer.

Gunner

@MN5 I couldn't resist poking the bear last night on cricinfo FB page.

I chimed in with something like 'He's not even that good. We know the Indians have the best 10 batsmen and bowlers in the world, and they have the away stats to back it up'