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  • TimT Tim

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/exclusive-report-moana-pasifikas-super-rugby-aotearoa-dream-poised-on-a-knife-edge/BY6ULSFHPLIIXH3635JWG6SFXU/

    Exclusive report: Moana Pasifika's Super Rugby Aotearoa dream 'poised on a knife-edge'

    Moana Pasifika have presented a new business case to New Zealand Rugby after an initial feasibility report revealed a funding hole in excess of $20 million, forcing the team to slash operating costs for their proposed 2022 entry into Super Rugby Aotearoa.

    In the race against time and money to get a long-awaited Pasifika team off the ground, Moana Pasifika co-chairman Pelenato Sakalia remains hopeful the proposal will come together but a potential share of broadcast revenue remains a sticking point that could make or break the team's future.

    The Herald has obtained the feasibility report, summited by Deloitte partner Doug Wilson in September, that reveals a $25.94 million funding shortfall for Moana Pasifika's proposed 2021 Super Rugby entry, and a $20.39m shortfall for the team's likely 2022 launch.

    The report states player payments would be $10.05m for 2021 – double the respective five New Zealand Super Rugby teams – and include an additional $1.2m of one-off transfer fees for a dream roster that targeted luring likes of former All Blacks loose forward Steven Luatua back from Bristol.

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    @Tim transfer fee? Or is that mid-term contract break fee?

    Did whoever did thier budgeting just think the likes of Luatua, PIutau et al would return for the love of it?

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      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/us-consortium-take-over-sharks-in-landmark-deal/

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        Wow, where did that come from?

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        • TimT Tim

          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/us-consortium-take-over-sharks-in-landmark-deal/

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          @Tim More something for the NH Club rugby thread, now that they're going to PRO14?

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            Not all SR franchises seem to start their preseason - together - at the same time. From what I've seen on social media, Highlanders and Crusaders players aren't all back on home base yet. They're clearly training hard, but not all of them in Dunedin or Chch. Ta$man players like M Hunt, L Faingaanuku, D Havili, Segner etc all in the same gym. Mataele in Hamilton, Hall still up north.

            I wish the franchises would post more photos and videos. Blues have been good, and Chiefs have posted a few photos, but the rest ....

            I'm having rugby withdrawal symptoms (esp because there's no 7s, either).

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            • StargazerS Stargazer

              Not all SR franchises seem to start their preseason - together - at the same time. From what I've seen on social media, Highlanders and Crusaders players aren't all back on home base yet. They're clearly training hard, but not all of them in Dunedin or Chch. Ta$man players like M Hunt, L Faingaanuku, D Havili, Segner etc all in the same gym. Mataele in Hamilton, Hall still up north.

              I wish the franchises would post more photos and videos. Blues have been good, and Chiefs have posted a few photos, but the rest ....

              I'm having rugby withdrawal symptoms (esp because there's no 7s, either).

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              @Stargazer said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

              I'm having rugby withdrawal symptoms (esp because there's no 7s, either).

              'rugby withdrawal' also know as 'summer'
              Don't panic - Super startsin about 6 weeks right? It's nuts, but modern rugby calendar...

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              • StargazerS Stargazer

                Not all SR franchises seem to start their preseason - together - at the same time. From what I've seen on social media, Highlanders and Crusaders players aren't all back on home base yet. They're clearly training hard, but not all of them in Dunedin or Chch. Ta$man players like M Hunt, L Faingaanuku, D Havili, Segner etc all in the same gym. Mataele in Hamilton, Hall still up north.

                I wish the franchises would post more photos and videos. Blues have been good, and Chiefs have posted a few photos, but the rest ....

                I'm having rugby withdrawal symptoms (esp because there's no 7s, either).

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                @Stargazer said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                esp because there's no 7s, either

                Yeah we would normally have had a couple of full days of rugby (albeit sevens) from Dubai and SA by now and NZ and Aus would be coming up soon.

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                • nzzpN nzzp

                  @Stargazer said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                  I'm having rugby withdrawal symptoms (esp because there's no 7s, either).

                  'rugby withdrawal' also know as 'summer'
                  Don't panic - Super startsin about 6 weeks right? It's nuts, but modern rugby calendar...

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                  @nzzp said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                  @Stargazer said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                  I'm having rugby withdrawal symptoms (esp because there's no 7s, either).

                  'rugby withdrawal' also know as 'summer'
                  Don't panic - Super startsin about 6 weeks right? It's nuts, but modern rugby calendar...

                  What??? I can't wait that long, I think I've posted twice in cricket threads ... that's my quota. I might have to rejoin the politics section at this rate.

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                  • NepiaN Nepia

                    @nzzp said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                    @Stargazer said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                    I'm having rugby withdrawal symptoms (esp because there's no 7s, either).

                    'rugby withdrawal' also know as 'summer'
                    Don't panic - Super startsin about 6 weeks right? It's nuts, but modern rugby calendar...

                    What??? I can't wait that long, I think I've posted twice in cricket threads ... that's my quota. I might have to rejoin the politics section at this rate.

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                    @Nepia said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                    I might have to rejoin the politics section at this rate.

                    Oh shit. Another lockdown.

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                      It's actually 7 weeks to Super Rugby Aotearoa.

                      6 weeks to Super Rugby Aus.

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                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                        Not all SR franchises seem to start their preseason - together - at the same time. From what I've seen on social media, Highlanders and Crusaders players aren't all back on home base yet. They're clearly training hard, but not all of them in Dunedin or Chch. Ta$man players like M Hunt, L Faingaanuku, D Havili, Segner etc all in the same gym. Mataele in Hamilton, Hall still up north.

                        I wish the franchises would post more photos and videos. Blues have been good, and Chiefs have posted a few photos, but the rest ....

                        I'm having rugby withdrawal symptoms (esp because there's no 7s, either).

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                        #1578

                        @Stargazer said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                        I'm having rugby withdrawal symptoms (esp because there's no 7s, either).

                        https://www.trademe.co.nz/books/rare-collectable/nz-published/sport/listing-2928409814.htm?rsqid=e6bb1f06fe5f4a05aade32dac638f78e-001

                        I've got quite a few of these old Terry McLean books that I'm slowly working through.

                        Whole AB tours that I know little about! πŸ™‚

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                          #1579

                          Replying to @Bovidae 's post here, because it's of interest to all NZ franchises:

                          @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2021:

                          The Chiefs will already be running with one assistant coach less than last year, following the departure of Tabai Matson. McMillan confirmed Neil Barnes (forwards), Nick White (set pieces) and Roger Randle (attack) would continue with their same portfolios, while he and David Hill will split the defensive duties, with Hill also continuing his work with the kickers.

                          So the Chiefs won't replace Matson and the Crusaders won't replace Jones.

                          What's the situation at the Highlanders? I'm drawing a blank; they've lost both Mauger and Hammett, but who have come in?

                          The Hurricanes have lost Spencer and hired a rookie coach (who presumably earns lower wages) in Bleyendaal.

                          Have the Blues lost one of their coaches?

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                          • StargazerS Stargazer

                            Replying to @Bovidae 's post here, because it's of interest to all NZ franchises:

                            @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2021:

                            The Chiefs will already be running with one assistant coach less than last year, following the departure of Tabai Matson. McMillan confirmed Neil Barnes (forwards), Nick White (set pieces) and Roger Randle (attack) would continue with their same portfolios, while he and David Hill will split the defensive duties, with Hill also continuing his work with the kickers.

                            So the Chiefs won't replace Matson and the Crusaders won't replace Jones.

                            What's the situation at the Highlanders? I'm drawing a blank; they've lost both Mauger and Hammett, but who have come in?

                            The Hurricanes have lost Spencer and hired a rookie coach (who presumably earns lower wages) in Bleyendaal.

                            Have the Blues lost one of their coaches?

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                            @Stargazer

                            Blues have kept their coaching team together for 2021.

                            The Blues know a good thing when they've got it building, and have locked in their five-strong coaching group for at least one more Super Rugby season.
                            
                            The franchise confirmed ahead of this week's squad announcement for 2021 (7am Thursday) that their entire coaching group had reupped for next season at least as they look to make further ground in the wake of their 2020 breakthrough.
                            

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300171272/super-rugby-blues-bring-back-their-coaching-group-for-another-crack-in-2021

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                              @Stargazer

                              Blues have kept their coaching team together for 2021.

                              The Blues know a good thing when they've got it building, and have locked in their five-strong coaching group for at least one more Super Rugby season.
                              
                              The franchise confirmed ahead of this week's squad announcement for 2021 (7am Thursday) that their entire coaching group had reupped for next season at least as they look to make further ground in the wake of their 2020 breakthrough.
                              

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300171272/super-rugby-blues-bring-back-their-coaching-group-for-another-crack-in-2021

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                              @KiwiMurph said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                              @Stargazer

                              Blues have kept their coaching team together for 2021.

                              Flash Auckland piston wristed gibbons πŸ˜‰

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                                @KiwiMurph said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                @Stargazer

                                Blues have kept their coaching team together for 2021.

                                Flash Auckland piston wristed gibbons πŸ˜‰

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                                @Machpants said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                @KiwiMurph said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                @Stargazer

                                Blues have kept their coaching team together for 2021.

                                Flash Auckland piston wristed gibbons πŸ˜‰

                                Haha - sounds like Chiefs had 6 coaches last year and have dropped to 5 whereas Blues have stayed at 5.

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                                • M Machpants

                                  @KiwiMurph said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                  @Stargazer

                                  Blues have kept their coaching team together for 2021.

                                  Flash Auckland piston wristed gibbons πŸ˜‰

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                                  @Machpants said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                  @KiwiMurph said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                  @Stargazer

                                  Blues have kept their coaching team together for 2021.

                                  Flash Auckland piston wristed gibbons πŸ˜‰

                                  It's about time. Pat Lam had fewer coaches than everyone else at the time... Couldn't get money out of the board. Also had no good training facility, etc... We've come a long way

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                                    Pre-season game: game of 3 halves

                                    Hurricanes v Blues v Chiefs
                                    Saturday, 13 February 2021
                                    Maidstone Park, Upper Hutt
                                    K/o 12.00pm

                                    https://www.instagram.com/p/CKKAzLSjT-3/


                                    https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/hurricanes-to-play-blues-chiefs-at-upper-hutts-maidstone-park/

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                                      Pre-season game: game of 3 halves

                                      Hurricanes v Blues v Chiefs
                                      Saturday, 13 February 2021
                                      Maidstone Park, Upper Hutt
                                      K/o 12.00pm

                                      https://www.instagram.com/p/CKKAzLSjT-3/


                                      https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/hurricanes-to-play-blues-chiefs-at-upper-hutts-maidstone-park/

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                                      @Stargazer said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                      Pre-season game: game of 3 halves

                                      Hatiest!!!

                                      It's not 3 halves! It's 3 times specific periods, otherwise known as thirds.

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                                      • HoorooH Hooroo

                                        @Stargazer said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                        Pre-season game: game of 3 halves

                                        Hatiest!!!

                                        It's not 3 halves! It's 3 times specific periods, otherwise known as thirds.

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                                        @Hooroo They actually play two (40-minute) halves, each. So there are three halves to be played.

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          @Hooroo They actually play two (40-minute) halves, each. So there are three halves to be played.

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                                          @Stargazer said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                          @Hooroo They actually play two (40-minute) halves, each.

                                          But it is three 40 minute segments.

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