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@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Nepia said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
the more I think about it, the biggest thing I dislike about the sequels is they undo everything that was won in the Originals
empire overthrown? not really they just change their name to the first order
emperor gone? not really, he comes back
Han and Leia live happily ever after? nope, they break up and their son murders millions
The republic is at least restored right? kind off...but it pretty much gets destroyed straight away
Luke starts a new generation of jedi?..tries...off screen...but fails and gives upso...what was the point of the first six films?
I think the Mandalorian is going some way to explaining this by showing just how prevalent the remnants of the Empire are around the galaxy even after RTJ.
Yeah, FO are just one of many splinter groups probably. But they didn't have to go down the undead emperor tangent and it could have been good
Splinter group? Of anything the seem better equipped than the empire before them!
And apparently led by an incompetent joke of a general who wouldn’t even have been born when the Empire actually existed.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

To me he’s always Renton from Trainspoting.
….that must have made watching Star wars very interesting

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@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

To me he’s always Renton from Trainspoting.
….that must have made watching Star wars very interesting

Was there a single NZer who didn’t see Jake the Muss when Fango Fett was first revealed? Was half expecting him to ask Obi Wan to make him some eggs.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

To me he’s always Renton from Trainspoting.
….that must have made watching Star wars very interesting

Was there a single NZer who didn’t see Jake the Muss when Fango Fett was first revealed? Was half expecting him to ask Obi Wan to make him some eggs.
Yup. And I wanted young Boba to ask Obi Wan if he had any spare 20s
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

To me he’s always Renton from Trainspoting.
….that must have made watching Star wars very interesting

Was there a single NZer who didn’t see Jake the Muss when Fango Fett was first revealed? Was half expecting him to ask Obi Wan to make him some eggs.
To be fair Tem nailed the role.....but yeah I definitely thought he’d mention Obi Wan doing lots of speed work and not many weights
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I find myself agreeing with most of this..
\https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20200430-star-wars-why-the-empire-strikes-back-is-overrated
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@Crucial I don't, he pretty much admits his annoyance at later films has ruined this one for him which I don't agree with
I think I disagree with a lot, I think the special effects are much better, just having the battle of hoth during the day...even now movie makers cheap out by setting action scenes at night so they can just have a black background and or hide shit stuff in the shadows
in different paragraphs he laments it being established right at the start that the rebels have been pushed back after what they thought was a big win...and then laments its called the Empire strikes back and that one saber duel does not a strike back make...they'd already stuck back by then, the movie is about what happens after the strike back
like every sequel of course its sets up stuff for the last movie...if it was just another stand alone one it wouldn't be a trilogy
ESB is still a very good fil in my eyes, starts to tease out there is a bigger universe, more planets, more aliens, organisations other than the empire and rebellion








