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Hurricanes 2021

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  • M mikey07

    I heard from a source who’s was cut from Canes Management that the plan he had set in place to sign the up and coming players out of the provinces eg McClutchie went out the window when he got booted not sour grapes from this guy but he reckons this years team will be the worst ever.

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    @mikey07 Fancy having the gall to pick decent players from the catchment area ahead of anyone based in Wellington. No wonder he got booted. Maybe the Hawkes Bay halfback missed out because nobody in the 'Canes management could spell Fakatava?

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      @mikey07 Fancy having the gall to pick decent players from the catchment area ahead of anyone based in Wellington. No wonder he got booted. Maybe the Hawkes Bay halfback missed out because nobody in the 'Canes management could spell Fakatava?

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      @Higgins Think your on to something there, would definitely explain some of the signings though.

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          Holland mentions around the 10min mark that Blackwell and Prinsep are two of the main leaders within the squad. No wonder they keep getting picked.

          Interesting to hear the Holland would have been a part of Razor's AB team if he got the gig meaning the Canes were always going to lose one of their coaches.

          Holland's young player to watch out for in 2021 is Ruben Love.

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          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

            Holland mentions around the 10min mark that Blackwell and Prinsep are two of the main leaders within the squad. No wonder they keep getting picked.

            Interesting to hear the Holland would have been a part of Razor's AB team if he got the gig meaning the Canes were always going to lose one of their coaches.

            Holland's young player to watch out for in 2021 is Ruben Love.

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            @Canes4life Has any General won a war if his rank and file foot soldiers were shite? A crap General might be able to fluke a win in a few battles if his foot soldiers are good though. Looks like we won't be seeing either here this season.

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            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

              Holland mentions around the 10min mark that Blackwell and Prinsep are two of the main leaders within the squad. No wonder they keep getting picked.

              Interesting to hear the Holland would have been a part of Razor's AB team if he got the gig meaning the Canes were always going to lose one of their coaches.

              Holland's young player to watch out for in 2021 is Ruben Love.

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              @Canes4life said in 2021 Hurricanes:

              Holland mentions around the 10min mark that Blackwell and Prinsep are two of the main leaders within the squad. No wonder they keep getting picked.

              Only really dumb coaches would do this

              I don't mind Princep so much. Hes fairly ordinary though but ok if he got great leadership skills then 1 and only one in the team is fair enough. But Blackwell is not even clsoe to supper rugby quality. And 2 plodderrs one (Blackwell) who is rubbish most games is too mcuh for any team that wants to win rather than just make up the numbers

              The difference between a winning coach and one that just adequate can be small. Its these sorts of decisions that makes the difference. And really with Coles, Savea and the Wellington Captain surely that's enough. Not ever forward needs to have leadership qualities. Esp those that when they are captain (Princep and Blackwell) the team does a bit shit

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                @Canes4life said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                Very good interview. JW was OK. Not over the top (bordering on painful) as he can be

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                  The Hurricanes didn't post anything from their first days of preseason, but Vaea Fifita did. I also saw some insta "stories" from Toala, Visinia and Flanders, but they've already disappeared.

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                    A Canes pre season update below:

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                      Has anyone seen much of Cam Roigard? (Counties first five) he looks to have joined the Canes as one of their training squad members along with Caleb Delaney who IMO should have been there in the first place.

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                        Has anyone seen much of Cam Roigard? (Counties first five) he looks to have joined the Canes as one of their training squad members along with Caleb Delaney who IMO should have been there in the first place.

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                        @Canes4life He's more of a halfback. Roigard was in the wider NZ U20 squad.

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                          @Canes4life Watch these highlights.

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                          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                            Has anyone seen much of Cam Roigard? (Counties first five) he looks to have joined the Canes as one of their training squad members along with Caleb Delaney who IMO should have been there in the first place.

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                            @Canes4life said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                            Has anyone seen much of Cam Roigard? (Counties first five) he looks to have joined the Canes as one of their training squad members along with Caleb Delaney who IMO should have been there in the first place.

                            So this looks to be another kick in the nuts for Lincoln McLutchie.

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                            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                              Has anyone seen much of Cam Roigard? (Counties first five) he looks to have joined the Canes as one of their training squad members along with Caleb Delaney who IMO should have been there in the first place.

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                              @Canes4life said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                              Has anyone seen much of Cam Roigard? (Counties first five) he looks to have joined the Canes as one of their training squad members along with Caleb Delaney who IMO should have been there in the first place.

                              Counties half back joined academy out of St Peters Cambridge. Handy goal kicker too. Stood out in Counties club rugby for Onewhero last year and made senior squad for the first time, fought his way to be number two in squad.

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                                @Canes4life said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                                Has anyone seen much of Cam Roigard? (Counties first five) he looks to have joined the Canes as one of their training squad members along with Caleb Delaney who IMO should have been there in the first place.

                                So this looks to be another kick in the nuts for Lincoln McLutchie.

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                                @Higgins He's Counties' second-choice halfback, not a first five-eighth. See the clip posted above by @Bovidae, and - for example:



                                So basically, it's more a kick in the guts of Connor McLeod and any Wellington halfback that hasn't made the squad, yet. (Don't know whether Hauiti-Parapara and Connor Collins are already in the Canes wtg).

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                                  @Canes4life said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                                  Has anyone seen much of Cam Roigard? (Counties first five) he looks to have joined the Canes as one of their training squad members along with Caleb Delaney who IMO should have been there in the first place.

                                  So this looks to be another kick in the nuts for Lincoln McLutchie.

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                                  @Higgins U think if they had any brains they would include him for pre-Season keep him keen rather then not bother to do anything with him

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                                    @Higgins U think if they had any brains they would include him for pre-Season keep him keen rather then not bother to do anything with him

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                                    @mikey07 Yep, not using him is like saying "go back to Japan".

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                                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                      Has anyone seen much of Cam Roigard? (Counties first five) he looks to have joined the Canes as one of their training squad members along with Caleb Delaney who IMO should have been there in the first place.

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                                      @Canes4life said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                                      Caleb Delaney who IMO should have been there in the first place.

                                      Maybe I'm missing something but unsure why you rate him so highly. Hes certainly not a 6 and never well be and I'd rate him below Blackwell (although he's slightly taller) as a lock. Sadly he's the sort of player these coaches rate. Good attitude (it seems) but just lacks the physical qualities and skills. And I doubt even with lots of conditioning he will ever have them

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                                      • mikedogzM mikedogz

                                        @Canes4life said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                                        Has anyone seen much of Cam Roigard? (Counties first five) he looks to have joined the Canes as one of their training squad members along with Caleb Delaney who IMO should have been there in the first place.

                                        Counties half back joined academy out of St Peters Cambridge. Handy goal kicker too. Stood out in Counties club rugby for Onewhero last year and made senior squad for the first time, fought his way to be number two in squad.

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                                        @mikedogz said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                                        @Canes4life said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                                        Has anyone seen much of Cam Roigard? (Counties first five) he looks to have joined the Canes as one of their training squad members along with Caleb Delaney who IMO should have been there in the first place.

                                        Counties half back joined academy out of St Peters Cambridge. Handy goal kicker too. Stood out in Counties club rugby for Onewhero last year and made senior squad for the first time, fought his way to be number two in squad.

                                        Hes listed as a first 5

                                        https://www.steelers.co.nz/steelers-heat/steelers/player-profiles/cameron-roigard.html

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                                        • WingerW Winger

                                          @mikedogz said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                                          @Canes4life said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                                          Has anyone seen much of Cam Roigard? (Counties first five) he looks to have joined the Canes as one of their training squad members along with Caleb Delaney who IMO should have been there in the first place.

                                          Counties half back joined academy out of St Peters Cambridge. Handy goal kicker too. Stood out in Counties club rugby for Onewhero last year and made senior squad for the first time, fought his way to be number two in squad.

                                          Hes listed as a first 5

                                          https://www.steelers.co.nz/steelers-heat/steelers/player-profiles/cameron-roigard.html

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                                          @Winger That must be a mistake on their website. He played 7 games for Counties in Mitre 10 Cup, 7 at halfback (6 off the bench, replacing Taumateine; 1 start against Southland).

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