Australia v India
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@Chris-B said in Australia v India:
@booboo said in Australia v India:
Bus change dropped.
Sitter.
Could have stuffed Aussie
Marnus can bat, but Jesus he has Lady Luck riding on his shoulder, as well.
Comms just saying that's the fifth time he's been dropped in this series and, as I recall, we gave him quite a bunch of lives as well!
The Henry Nicholls of Australia. They should really recalculate his average based on every chance being taken, and then drop him.
@No-Quarter said in Australia v India:
@Chris-B said in Australia v India:
@booboo said in Australia v India:
Bus change dropped.
Sitter.
Could have stuffed Aussie
Marnus can bat, but Jesus he has Lady Luck riding on his shoulder, as well.
Comms just saying that's the fifth time he's been dropped in this series and, as I recall, we gave him quite a bunch of lives as well!
The Henry Nicholls of Australia. They should really recalculate his average based on every chance being taken, and then drop him.
This the same guy that's been giving me shit for calling for Henry Nicholls to be dropped based on his chances given!?
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It's complicated but Australia lose they will go below 70% so NZ would at least be in front of them. However they potentially have a 3 test tour to SA which is not confirmed or cancelled at this stage. If they lose this test I imagine that the chance of the SA series being cancelled will decrease quite a lot.
If Australia lose this test and do go to SA we will need SA to either win 1 test or draw 2.
India is a bit more simple as their series against England is definitely scheduled to go ahead. They need another 110 points from their next games so either 3 wins/2 draws or 4 wins will see them above NZ.
I think our best chance is an Indian win in this game.
@LABCAT said in Australia v India:
It's complicated but Australia lose they will go below 70% so NZ would at least be in front of them. However they potentially have a 3 test tour to SA which is not confirmed or cancelled at this stage. If they lose this test I imagine that the chance of the SA series being cancelled will decrease quite a lot.
If Australia lose this test and do go to SA we will need SA to either win 1 test or draw 2.
India is a bit more simple as their series against England is definitely scheduled to go ahead. They need another 110 points from their next games so either 3 wins/2 draws or 4 wins will see them above NZ.
I think our best chance is an Indian win in this game.
Thank you for your service
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Comms coming in with some stats - Marnus is the second most dropped player since the 2017/18 Ashes - behind Ben Stokes.
At least he had the good grace not to fucking flounder a World Cup into the deal!
@Chris-B said in Australia v India:
Comms coming in with some stats - Marnus is the second most dropped player since the 2017/18 Ashes - behind Ben Stokes.
At least he had the good grace not to fucking flounder a World Cup into the deal!
Is that for all formats?
Wondering if stokes is cos of how hard he's hitting it generally. Haven't watched him much, just guessing.
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@KiwiMurph said in Australia v India:
Australia well in front for me. They should be eyeing up 400+
Yep . Paine and Green survive the new ball and swing it back to Aussie.
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@Chris-B said in Australia v India:
Comms coming in with some stats - Marnus is the second most dropped player since the 2017/18 Ashes - behind Ben Stokes.
At least he had the good grace not to fucking flounder a World Cup into the deal!
Is that for all formats?
Wondering if stokes is cos of how hard he's hitting it generally. Haven't watched him much, just guessing.
@delicatessen Just tests I think. I got dragged away from the TV, so I didn't hear if they discussed this more.
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@KiwiMurph said in Australia v India:
@barbarian said in Australia v India:
@KiwiMurph said in Australia v India:
@barbarian said in Australia v India:
@MN5 said in Australia v India:
@barbarian said in Australia v India:
Short memories around the place, Tim Paine was MoTM just two tests ago! Has the second highest batting average of any Aussie keeper (behind Gilchrist), and despite a tough few hours is still as good a gloveman as we have.
Banter was a bit much late, but they were pushing to win a crucial test, been in the field all day, and it was more annoying than offensive. Happy to give him the benefit of the doubt given his track record so far.
No hundreds and the modern game demands a keeper with an average of close to 40 these days.
Well, ok we’re pretty spoilt with BJ to be fair, whoever succeeds him has massive shoes to fill.
But fuck Tim Paine, not remotely in that class.
No, but once again it's not like we've got keepers averaging 40 floating around. The cupboard is bare.
I'm a big Paine fan. What he's done with this team since Sandpapergate is truly remarkable, in terms of reputation and on-field performance. He was never going to be an all-time player, but he was the man for his time.
He is at the bottom of the pantheon of Australian skippers, but from where he was just a few years ago the fact that he is actually in that pantheon is an enormous achievement.
This test series has hurt that reputation though.
Has it? How? One exchange with Ashwin yesterday, which was pretty tame by historical standards. And a dropped catch, but not exactly a match-defining one. Yes it certainly didn't help him, but in the grand scheme of things I don't think it will linger that long in the memory.
and being fined for dissent towards the umpire.
And his carry on after being given out DRS earlier in the series
Neither has really resonated here. In the first instance, he didn't exactly abuse the umpire, what he said was fairly benign IMO. And I think most people sympathised with his 'carry on', which again was pretty light. It wasn't like he stood at the crease and refused to leave. In both instances he was just frustrated at what a lot of people thought were questionable DRS calls.
@barbarian said in Australia v India:
@KiwiMurph said in Australia v India:
@barbarian said in Australia v India:
@KiwiMurph said in Australia v India:
@barbarian said in Australia v India:
@MN5 said in Australia v India:
@barbarian said in Australia v India:
Short memories around the place, Tim Paine was MoTM just two tests ago! Has the second highest batting average of any Aussie keeper (behind Gilchrist), and despite a tough few hours is still as good a gloveman as we have.
Banter was a bit much late, but they were pushing to win a crucial test, been in the field all day, and it was more annoying than offensive. Happy to give him the benefit of the doubt given his track record so far.
No hundreds and the modern game demands a keeper with an average of close to 40 these days.
Well, ok we’re pretty spoilt with BJ to be fair, whoever succeeds him has massive shoes to fill.
But fuck Tim Paine, not remotely in that class.
No, but once again it's not like we've got keepers averaging 40 floating around. The cupboard is bare.
I'm a big Paine fan. What he's done with this team since Sandpapergate is truly remarkable, in terms of reputation and on-field performance. He was never going to be an all-time player, but he was the man for his time.
He is at the bottom of the pantheon of Australian skippers, but from where he was just a few years ago the fact that he is actually in that pantheon is an enormous achievement.
This test series has hurt that reputation though.
Has it? How? One exchange with Ashwin yesterday, which was pretty tame by historical standards. And a dropped catch, but not exactly a match-defining one. Yes it certainly didn't help him, but in the grand scheme of things I don't think it will linger that long in the memory.
and being fined for dissent towards the umpire.
And his carry on after being given out DRS earlier in the series
Neither has really resonated here. In the first instance, he didn't exactly abuse the umpire, what he said was fairly benign IMO. And I think most people sympathised with his 'carry on', which again was pretty light. It wasn't like he stood at the crease and refused to leave. In both instances he was just frustrated at what a lot of people thought were questionable DRS calls.
In the motherland, the Aussie cricket team behaviors is everywhere. Plethora of banter going around about proof that the DNA of team not changed etc. So that reputation has Defo been damaged.
Mind you ... depends on how much you care about Poms and Indians views .... I certainly wouldn’t!!
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As long as the Aussies aren't cheating I couldn't give a fuck about banter out on the field. You take the emotion out of the game and it gets pretty boring. A test series isn't meant to be for the faint of heart, tests are a mental game more than anything and if you can throw the opposition off by whatever mean then good luck to you.
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As long as the Aussies aren't cheating I couldn't give a fuck about banter out on the field. You take the emotion out of the game and it gets pretty boring. A test series isn't meant to be for the faint of heart, tests are a mental game more than anything and if you can throw the opposition off by whatever mean then good luck to you.
@No-Quarter said in Australia v India:
As long as the Aussies aren't cheating I couldn't give a fuck about banter out on the field. You take the emotion out of the game and it gets pretty boring. A test series isn't meant to be for the faint of heart, tests are a mental game more than anything and if you can throw the opposition off by whatever mean then good luck to you.
It’s more the Steve Smith pitch scrape that ppl are going on about.
Totally agree tho. Sport is entertainment.
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@No-Quarter said in Australia v India:
As long as the Aussies aren't cheating I couldn't give a fuck about banter out on the field. You take the emotion out of the game and it gets pretty boring. A test series isn't meant to be for the faint of heart, tests are a mental game more than anything and if you can throw the opposition off by whatever mean then good luck to you.
It’s more the Steve Smith pitch scrape that ppl are going on about.
Totally agree tho. Sport is entertainment.
@MajorRage said in Australia v India:
@No-Quarter said in Australia v India:
As long as the Aussies aren't cheating I couldn't give a fuck about banter out on the field. You take the emotion out of the game and it gets pretty boring. A test series isn't meant to be for the faint of heart, tests are a mental game more than anything and if you can throw the opposition off by whatever mean then good luck to you.
It’s more the Steve Smith pitch scrape that ppl are going on about.
Totally agree tho. Sport is entertainment.
Yeah, that was the biggest non-event ever. You can't get rid of markings that easily, and by that stage of the match there are deep markings for off, middle and leg, and even in between for the weirdoes that like to take a mark between middle and off and/or leg.
Batsmen constantly retake their mark to confirm which ones are theirs.
Steve Smith is just eccentric as hell and has all sorts of idiosyncrasies. I very much doubt the Indian batsmen even noticed? Has he commented?
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@NTA said in Australia v India:
https://twitter.com/RicFinlay/status/1350040066534436868?s=19
Recommend following Ric Finlay on Twitter. He's the stats guy for ABC Radio and I imagine a few others. Always has good stuff.
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@KiwiMurph said in Australia v India:
Australia well in front for me. They should be eyeing up 400+
Yep . Paine and Green survive the new ball and swing it back to Aussie.
@booboo said in Australia v India:
@KiwiMurph said in Australia v India:
Australia well in front for me. They should be eyeing up 400+
Yep . Paine and Green survive the new ball and swing it back to Aussie.
Spot on. 250/6 is India's day. They've bowled well considering the inexperience from injuries. First hour really important though
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Excellent captain's knock from Paine at a bloody slippery time. He's a top fella and a good cricketer. Calling himself a fool on national television, then performing immediately after is exactly what good leadership looks like. Humility and then obvious competence.
I think Australia will win mostly because of how the gabba to oz cricket is eden Park to nz rugby - it just always works out ok.
India have earned a lot of admiration for their part in what must be one of the hardest tours ever because of COVID. That's a lot of time in hotels, when normally it's golf and sight seeing on off days.
To compete with yesterday's bowling attack in Australian conditions is pretty rare. It also further exposes our abortion of a tour a year ago.
India won this series 2 summers ago and are still in this one with a different captain. Keeping the Aussies sweating for 8 tests in a row at home is unprecedented in the last 2 decades and a far cry from the usual script - make 500 then roll them twice. Older India would have layed down a couple of times like Pakistan do, but this Indiais different.
I reckon Ravi Shastri might be the man. It's all looked a bit more professional and complete since he and Kohli took over.
Whatever happens, great series.
That Steve Smith thing is best described as totally unnecessary. If you choose to defend it as a subconscious quirk or shadow batting, then for fucks sake be sure to hold his hand everytime he has to cross the road! Lest he be bowled over by an 18 wheeler while "shadow" marking leg stump in the middle of the A4!
He was trying to be annoying to the batsmen in the hope of a wicket from diminished focus. No biggie. In past times some batsman might have told him to fuck off, and that would be it. A great example of the media fucking up our reality with their coverage.
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Excellent captain's knock from Paine at a bloody slippery time. He's a top fella and a good cricketer. Calling himself a fool on national television, then performing immediately after is exactly what good leadership looks like. Humility and then obvious competence.
I think Australia will win mostly because of how the gabba to oz cricket is eden Park to nz rugby - it just always works out ok.
India have earned a lot of admiration for their part in what must be one of the hardest tours ever because of COVID. That's a lot of time in hotels, when normally it's golf and sight seeing on off days.
To compete with yesterday's bowling attack in Australian conditions is pretty rare. It also further exposes our abortion of a tour a year ago.
India won this series 2 summers ago and are still in this one with a different captain. Keeping the Aussies sweating for 8 tests in a row at home is unprecedented in the last 2 decades and a far cry from the usual script - make 500 then roll them twice. Older India would have layed down a couple of times like Pakistan do, but this Indiais different.
I reckon Ravi Shastri might be the man. It's all looked a bit more professional and complete since he and Kohli took over.
Whatever happens, great series.
That Steve Smith thing is best described as totally unnecessary. If you choose to defend it as a subconscious quirk or shadow batting, then for fucks sake be sure to hold his hand everytime he has to cross the road! Lest he be bowled over by an 18 wheeler while "shadow" marking leg stump in the middle of the A4!
He was trying to be annoying to the batsmen in the hope of a wicket from diminished focus. No biggie. In past times some batsman might have told him to fuck off, and that would be it. A great example of the media fucking up our reality with their coverage.
@Siam said in Australia v India:
Excellent captain's knock from Paine at a bloody slippery time. He's a top fella and a good cricketer. Calling himself a fool on national television, then performing immediately after is exactly what good leadership looks like. Humility and then obvious competence.
I think Australia will win mostly because of how the gabba to oz cricket is eden Park to nz rugby - it just always works out ok.
India have earned a lot of admiration for their part in what must be one of the hardest tours ever because of COVID. That's a lot of time in hotels, when normally it's golf and sight seeing on off days.
To compete with yesterday's bowling attack in Australian conditions is pretty rare. It also further exposes our abortion of a tour a year ago.
India won this series 2 summers ago and are still in this one with a different captain. Keeping the Aussies sweating for 8 tests in a row at home is unprecedented in the last 2 decades and a far cry from the usual script - make 500 then roll them twice. Older India would have layed down a couple of times like Pakistan do, but this Indiais different.
I reckon Ravi Shastri might be the man. It's all looked a bit more professional and complete since he and Kohli took over.
Whatever happens, great series.
That Steve Smith thing is best described as totally unnecessary. If you choose to defend it as a subconscious quirk or shadow batting, then for fucks sake be sure to hold his hand everytime he has to cross the road! Lest he be bowled over by an 18 wheeler while "shadow" marking leg stump in the middle of the A4!
He was trying to be annoying to the batsmen in the hope of a wicket from diminished focus. No biggie. In past times some batsman might have told him to fuck off, and that would be it. A great example of the media fucking up our reality with their coverage.
Yeah, I wouldn't call it cheating, but it was certainly a dick move. Just because he apparently "always does it" doesn't make it less of a dick move. Just get the fuck off the pitch when you're not batting.
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@Siam said in Australia v India:
Excellent captain's knock from Paine at a bloody slippery time. He's a top fella and a good cricketer. Calling himself a fool on national television, then performing immediately after is exactly what good leadership looks like. Humility and then obvious competence.
I think Australia will win mostly because of how the gabba to oz cricket is eden Park to nz rugby - it just always works out ok.
India have earned a lot of admiration for their part in what must be one of the hardest tours ever because of COVID. That's a lot of time in hotels, when normally it's golf and sight seeing on off days.
To compete with yesterday's bowling attack in Australian conditions is pretty rare. It also further exposes our abortion of a tour a year ago.
India won this series 2 summers ago and are still in this one with a different captain. Keeping the Aussies sweating for 8 tests in a row at home is unprecedented in the last 2 decades and a far cry from the usual script - make 500 then roll them twice. Older India would have layed down a couple of times like Pakistan do, but this Indiais different.
I reckon Ravi Shastri might be the man. It's all looked a bit more professional and complete since he and Kohli took over.
Whatever happens, great series.
That Steve Smith thing is best described as totally unnecessary. If you choose to defend it as a subconscious quirk or shadow batting, then for fucks sake be sure to hold his hand everytime he has to cross the road! Lest he be bowled over by an 18 wheeler while "shadow" marking leg stump in the middle of the A4!
He was trying to be annoying to the batsmen in the hope of a wicket from diminished focus. No biggie. In past times some batsman might have told him to fuck off, and that would be it. A great example of the media fucking up our reality with their coverage.
Yeah, I wouldn't call it cheating, but it was certainly a dick move. Just because he apparently "always does it" doesn't make it less of a dick move. Just get the fuck off the pitch when you're not batting.
