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    @MN5 years ago they got Lillee to help set up a pace bowling program. Since then they've apparently used McGrath too. Given how shit their pace attack used to be, it's a remarkable improvement

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    @Siam said in Australia v India:

    @MN5 years ago they got Lillee to help set up a pace bowling program. Since then they've apparently used McGrath to. Given how shit their pace attack used to be, it's a remarkable improvement

    "shit" might be a bit rough but they were definitely military medium on the whole. I always found it odd that next door neighbours Pakistan could produce Hall of famers like Imran, Wasim, Waqar, Shoaib etc and the best they could manage was Srinath, Zaheer Khan and Ishant Sharma......a definite step down in quality.

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    @MN5 yeah shit was a shit adjective. They used to have one perform well with runs coming thick and fast off the others, well in Australia anyway.

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    @MN5 said in Australia v India:

    @Siam said in Australia v India:

    @MN5 years ago they got Lillee to help set up a pace bowling program. Since then they've apparently used McGrath to. Given how shit their pace attack used to be, it's a remarkable improvement

    "shit" might be a bit rough but they were definitely military medium on the whole. I always found it odd that next door neighbours Pakistan could produce Hall of famers like Imran, Wasim, Waqar, Shoaib etc and the best they could manage was Srinath, Zaheer Khan and Ishant Sharma......a definite step down in quality.

    Allahu Akbar?

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    @Snowy said in Australia v India:

    @MN5 said in Australia v India:

    @Siam said in Australia v India:

    @MN5 years ago they got Lillee to help set up a pace bowling program. Since then they've apparently used McGrath to. Given how shit their pace attack used to be, it's a remarkable improvement

    "shit" might be a bit rough but they were definitely military medium on the whole. I always found it odd that next door neighbours Pakistan could produce Hall of famers like Imran, Wasim, Waqar, Shoaib etc and the best they could manage was Srinath, Zaheer Khan and Ishant Sharma......a definite step down in quality.

    Allahu Akbar?

    righto

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    @MN5 said in Australia v India:

    Mysterious ways...

    Actually I just think the Indians historically focused on batting and their neighbours the opposite. Now it is a more complete game (for everybody).

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    @Snowy said in Australia v India:

    @MN5 said in Australia v India:

    Mysterious ways...

    Actually I just think the Indians historically focused on batting and their neighbours the opposite. Now it is a more complete game (for everybody).

    Yeah true, India have a much richer history of batting greats ( probably to the detriment of their bowlers ) but I suppose Miandad, Inzi the spud and Younis Khan had terrific records.

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    @MN5 said in Australia v India:

    @Snowy said in Australia v India:

    @MN5 said in Australia v India:

    Mysterious ways...

    Actually I just think the Indians historically focused on batting and their neighbours the opposite. Now it is a more complete game (for everybody).

    Yeah true, India have a much richer history of batting greats ( probably to the detriment of their bowlers ) but I suppose Miandad, Inzi the spud and Younis Khan had terrific records.

    And it's not like India didn't have bowlers (Kapil Dev), but they are generally more famous for their spinners than their quicks. Pakistan by contrast have always seemed to be able to churn out a number of fast medium or quick bowlers, some of whom were excellent all time talents like Wasim and Waqar

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    @Snowy said in Australia v India:

    @MN5 said in Australia v India:

    @Siam said in Australia v India:

    @MN5 years ago they got Lillee to help set up a pace bowling program. Since then they've apparently used McGrath to. Given how shit their pace attack used to be, it's a remarkable improvement

    "shit" might be a bit rough but they were definitely military medium on the whole. I always found it odd that next door neighbours Pakistan could produce Hall of famers like Imran, Wasim, Waqar, Shoaib etc and the best they could manage was Srinath, Zaheer Khan and Ishant Sharma......a definite step down in quality.

    Allahu Akbar?

    What's his bowling average?

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    @MN5 said in Australia v India:

    @Snowy said in Australia v India:

    @MN5 said in Australia v India:

    Mysterious ways...

    Actually I just think the Indians historically focused on batting and their neighbours the opposite. Now it is a more complete game (for everybody).

    Yeah true, India have a much richer history of batting greats ( probably to the detriment of their bowlers ) but I suppose Miandad, Inzi the spud and Younis Khan had terrific records.

    Got to be pitch related doesn't it? Must be depressing as a kid on Indian pitches?
    Hard to know with Pakistan as they don't play ant home but i assume that they had more bowler friendly wickets.

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    @booboo said in Australia v India:

    @Snowy said in Australia v India:

    @MN5 said in Australia v India:

    @Siam said in Australia v India:

    @MN5 years ago they got Lillee to help set up a pace bowling program. Since then they've apparently used McGrath to. Given how shit their pace attack used to be, it's a remarkable improvement

    "shit" might be a bit rough but they were definitely military medium on the whole. I always found it odd that next door neighbours Pakistan could produce Hall of famers like Imran, Wasim, Waqar, Shoaib etc and the best they could manage was Srinath, Zaheer Khan and Ishant Sharma......a definite step down in quality.

    Allahu Akbar?

    What's his bowling average?

    Seriously good.

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    @Snowy said in Australia v India:

    @MN5 said in Australia v India:

    @Snowy said in Australia v India:

    @MN5 said in Australia v India:

    Mysterious ways...

    Actually I just think the Indians historically focused on batting and their neighbours the opposite. Now it is a more complete game (for everybody).

    Yeah true, India have a much richer history of batting greats ( probably to the detriment of their bowlers ) but I suppose Miandad, Inzi the spud and Younis Khan had terrific records.

    Got to be pitch related doesn't it? Must be depressing as a kid on Indian pitches?
    Hard to know with Pakistan as they don't play ant home but i assume that they had more bowler friendly wickets.

    Interesting question. NZ has produced a small handful of world class players, except maybe opening batsmen and spinners.......Maybe Oz and England are the only ones who've got every base covered due to their longevity ? ( ie hard to pick a genuine class Windies spinner although Lance Gibbs sounded decent )

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    @canefan said in Australia v India:

    @MN5 said in Australia v India:

    @Snowy said in Australia v India:

    @MN5 said in Australia v India:

    Mysterious ways...

    Actually I just think the Indians historically focused on batting and their neighbours the opposite. Now it is a more complete game (for everybody).

    Yeah true, India have a much richer history of batting greats ( probably to the detriment of their bowlers ) but I suppose Miandad, Inzi the spud and Younis Khan had terrific records.

    And it's not like India didn't have bowlers (Kapil Dev), but they are generally more famous for their spinners than their quicks. Pakistan by contrast have always seemed to be able to churn out a number of fast medium or quick bowlers, some of whom were excellent all time talents like Wasim and Waqar

    Got a few more? I'm struggling for India...
    Yes spinners, but quicks...

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    @Snowy said in Australia v India:

    @booboo said in Australia v India:

    @Snowy said in Australia v India:

    @MN5 said in Australia v India:

    @Siam said in Australia v India:

    @MN5 years ago they got Lillee to help set up a pace bowling program. Since then they've apparently used McGrath to. Given how shit their pace attack used to be, it's a remarkable improvement

    "shit" might be a bit rough but they were definitely military medium on the whole. I always found it odd that next door neighbours Pakistan could produce Hall of famers like Imran, Wasim, Waqar, Shoaib etc and the best they could manage was Srinath, Zaheer Khan and Ishant Sharma......a definite step down in quality.

    Allahu Akbar?

    What's his bowling average?

    Seriously good.

    Known for a few grenades...

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    @NTA said in Australia v India:

    @Snowy said in Australia v India:

    @booboo said in Australia v India:

    @Snowy said in Australia v India:

    @MN5 said in Australia v India:

    @Siam said in Australia v India:

    @MN5 years ago they got Lillee to help set up a pace bowling program. Since then they've apparently used McGrath to. Given how shit their pace attack used to be, it's a remarkable improvement

    "shit" might be a bit rough but they were definitely military medium on the whole. I always found it odd that next door neighbours Pakistan could produce Hall of famers like Imran, Wasim, Waqar, Shoaib etc and the best they could manage was Srinath, Zaheer Khan and Ishant Sharma......a definite step down in quality.

    Allahu Akbar?

    What's his bowling average?

    Seriously good.

    Known for a few grenades...

    This is such a @NTA comment

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    @Snowy said in Australia v India:

    @canefan said in Australia v India:

    @MN5 said in Australia v India:

    @Snowy said in Australia v India:

    @MN5 said in Australia v India:

    Mysterious ways...

    Actually I just think the Indians historically focused on batting and their neighbours the opposite. Now it is a more complete game (for everybody).

    Yeah true, India have a much richer history of batting greats ( probably to the detriment of their bowlers ) but I suppose Miandad, Inzi the spud and Younis Khan had terrific records.

    And it's not like India didn't have bowlers (Kapil Dev), but they are generally more famous for their spinners than their quicks. Pakistan by contrast have always seemed to be able to churn out a number of fast medium or quick bowlers, some of whom were excellent all time talents like Wasim and Waqar

    Got a few more? I'm struggling for India...
    Yes spinners, but quicks...

    Like I said, they are known more for their spinners than their quicks....

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    @canefan said in Australia v India:

    @Snowy said in Australia v India:

    @canefan said in Australia v India:

    @MN5 said in Australia v India:

    @Snowy said in Australia v India:

    @MN5 said in Australia v India:

    Mysterious ways...

    Actually I just think the Indians historically focused on batting and their neighbours the opposite. Now it is a more complete game (for everybody).

    Yeah true, India have a much richer history of batting greats ( probably to the detriment of their bowlers ) but I suppose Miandad, Inzi the spud and Younis Khan had terrific records.

    And it's not like India didn't have bowlers (Kapil Dev), but they are generally more famous for their spinners than their quicks. Pakistan by contrast have always seemed to be able to churn out a number of fast medium or quick bowlers, some of whom were excellent all time talents like Wasim and Waqar

    Got a few more? I'm struggling for India...
    Yes spinners, but quicks...

    Like I said, they are known more for their spinners than their quicks....

    Well I got nothing either.

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    @Snowy said in Australia v India:

    @canefan said in Australia v India:

    @Snowy said in Australia v India:

    @canefan said in Australia v India:

    @MN5 said in Australia v India:

    @Snowy said in Australia v India:

    @MN5 said in Australia v India:

    Mysterious ways...

    Actually I just think the Indians historically focused on batting and their neighbours the opposite. Now it is a more complete game (for everybody).

    Yeah true, India have a much richer history of batting greats ( probably to the detriment of their bowlers ) but I suppose Miandad, Inzi the spud and Younis Khan had terrific records.

    And it's not like India didn't have bowlers (Kapil Dev), but they are generally more famous for their spinners than their quicks. Pakistan by contrast have always seemed to be able to churn out a number of fast medium or quick bowlers, some of whom were excellent all time talents like Wasim and Waqar

    Got a few more? I'm struggling for India...
    Yes spinners, but quicks...

    Like I said, they are known more for their spinners than their quicks....

    Well I got nothing either.

    They had Kapil Dev but I reckon he was easily 4th best out of the 80s quartet of all rounders. Took him fucken ages to beat Paddles record. The much maligned ( on here ) Chris Cairns had better stats in both disciplines.

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    @MN5 said in Australia v India:

    @Snowy said in Australia v India:

    @canefan said in Australia v India:

    @Snowy said in Australia v India:

    @canefan said in Australia v India:

    @MN5 said in Australia v India:

    @Snowy said in Australia v India:

    @MN5 said in Australia v India:

    Mysterious ways...

    Actually I just think the Indians historically focused on batting and their neighbours the opposite. Now it is a more complete game (for everybody).

    Yeah true, India have a much richer history of batting greats ( probably to the detriment of their bowlers ) but I suppose Miandad, Inzi the spud and Younis Khan had terrific records.

    And it's not like India didn't have bowlers (Kapil Dev), but they are generally more famous for their spinners than their quicks. Pakistan by contrast have always seemed to be able to churn out a number of fast medium or quick bowlers, some of whom were excellent all time talents like Wasim and Waqar

    Got a few more? I'm struggling for India...
    Yes spinners, but quicks...

    Like I said, they are known more for their spinners than their quicks....

    Well I got nothing either.

    They had Kapil Dev but I reckon he was easily 4th best out of the 80s quartet of all rounders. Took him fucken ages to beat Paddles record. The much maligned ( on here ) Chris Cairns had better stats in both disciplines.

    Even with Bumrah I'd take any of our current top 4 over him

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    @canefan said in Australia v India:

    @MN5 said in Australia v India:

    @Snowy said in Australia v India:

    @canefan said in Australia v India:

    @Snowy said in Australia v India:

    @canefan said in Australia v India:

    @MN5 said in Australia v India:

    @Snowy said in Australia v India:

    @MN5 said in Australia v India:

    Mysterious ways...

    Actually I just think the Indians historically focused on batting and their neighbours the opposite. Now it is a more complete game (for everybody).

    Yeah true, India have a much richer history of batting greats ( probably to the detriment of their bowlers ) but I suppose Miandad, Inzi the spud and Younis Khan had terrific records.

    And it's not like India didn't have bowlers (Kapil Dev), but they are generally more famous for their spinners than their quicks. Pakistan by contrast have always seemed to be able to churn out a number of fast medium or quick bowlers, some of whom were excellent all time talents like Wasim and Waqar

    Got a few more? I'm struggling for India...
    Yes spinners, but quicks...

    Like I said, they are known more for their spinners than their quicks....

    Well I got nothing either.

    They had Kapil Dev but I reckon he was easily 4th best out of the 80s quartet of all rounders. Took him fucken ages to beat Paddles record. The much maligned ( on here ) Chris Cairns had better stats in both disciplines.

    Even with Bumrah I'd take any of our current top 4 over him

    This is a very Sean Fitzpatrick quote.

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