Australia v India
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Pujara won’t get the headlines, but by christ his dogged performances have had a big say in this series win.
@Gunner said in Australia v India:
Pujara won’t get the headlines, but by christ his dogged performances have had a big say in this series win.
Agreed. HIs tenacity, doggedness and courage put India in winning positions.
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The writing was on the wall for Aussie after they let India escape from a possible lowest ever to a whopping score of 36 that will be remembered forever as the spark to the Indian flame. Amazing stuff from such an inexperienced side missing so many regulars.
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Pujara won’t get the headlines, but by christ his dogged performances have had a big say in this series win.
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@Gunner Siraj’s 5 wickets, Washington’s two innings were big time too I reckon.
@ACT-Crusader said in Australia v India:
@Gunner Siraj’s 5 wickets, Washington’s two innings were big time too I reckon.
Indeed, I love the fact that there's still room for vital innings that aren't huge in the modern game. Those efforts were as valuable as centuries all things considered.
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Sack the coach, sack the captain.
Keep Wade though just in case...
@ACT-Crusader said in Australia v India:
Sack the coach, sack the captain.
Keep Wade though just in case...
Yeah the opposition would appreciate it if he were there too.
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The writing was on the wall for Aussie after they let India escape from a possible lowest ever to a whopping score of 36 that will be remembered forever as the spark to the Indian flame. Amazing stuff from such an inexperienced side missing so many regulars.
@ARHS said in Australia v India:
Amazing stuff from such an inexperienced side missing so many regulars.
Ponting in comms was saying on Day 3 that guys like Washington and Siraj are exposed to so much high level play at home now, along with mentoring from international players and coaches through IPL and other competitions.
Sure, you can only get 11 out there at a time, but when you're selecting those 11 from the best of a nation that large, it has to have an effect.
At the same time we debuted a couple of blokes who did alright, but I think we gave Starc too many chances instead of trying someone else, and obviously the batting didn't perform well enough in the first 2 Tests.
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@ARHS said in Australia v India:
Amazing stuff from such an inexperienced side missing so many regulars.
Ponting in comms was saying on Day 3 that guys like Washington and Siraj are exposed to so much high level play at home now, along with mentoring from international players and coaches through IPL and other competitions.
Sure, you can only get 11 out there at a time, but when you're selecting those 11 from the best of a nation that large, it has to have an effect.
At the same time we debuted a couple of blokes who did alright, but I think we gave Starc too many chances instead of trying someone else, and obviously the batting didn't perform well enough in the first 2 Tests.
@NTA said in Australia v India:
@ARHS said in Australia v India:
Amazing stuff from such an inexperienced side missing so many regulars.
Ponting in comms was saying on Day 3 that guys like Washington and Siraj are exposed to so much high level play at home now, along with mentoring from international players and coaches through IPL and other competitions.
Sure, you can only get 11 out there at a time, but when you're selecting those 11 from the best of a nation that large, it has to have an effect.
At the same time we debuted a couple of blokes who did alright, but I think we gave Starc too many chances instead of trying someone else, and obviously the batting didn't perform well enough in the first 2 Tests.
Yeah I dunno, they've been quite shite in the past and they've had about the same amount of people to select from.
They've obviously got the coaching set up right.......they've always had the batsmen but they actually have some decent fast bowlers for once as well.
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@ARHS said in Australia v India:
Amazing stuff from such an inexperienced side missing so many regulars.
Ponting in comms was saying on Day 3 that guys like Washington and Siraj are exposed to so much high level play at home now, along with mentoring from international players and coaches through IPL and other competitions.
Sure, you can only get 11 out there at a time, but when you're selecting those 11 from the best of a nation that large, it has to have an effect.
At the same time we debuted a couple of blokes who did alright, but I think we gave Starc too many chances instead of trying someone else, and obviously the batting didn't perform well enough in the first 2 Tests.
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@NTA said in Australia v India:
@Siam said in Australia v India:
The best run 2 you'll ever see
Not as good as the ones to win
Ummm that was 4
. Your man Starc got it in very well but those two just scampered. I thought it was a wee moment -
@ARHS said in Australia v India:
Amazing stuff from such an inexperienced side missing so many regulars.
Ponting in comms was saying on Day 3 that guys like Washington and Siraj are exposed to so much high level play at home now, along with mentoring from international players and coaches through IPL and other competitions.
Sure, you can only get 11 out there at a time, but when you're selecting those 11 from the best of a nation that large, it has to have an effect.
At the same time we debuted a couple of blokes who did alright, but I think we gave Starc too many chances instead of trying someone else, and obviously the batting didn't perform well enough in the first 2 Tests.
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@NTA said in Australia v India:
@ARHS said in Australia v India:
Amazing stuff from such an inexperienced side missing so many regulars.
Ponting in comms was saying on Day 3 that guys like Washington and Siraj are exposed to so much high level play at home now, along with mentoring from international players and coaches through IPL and other competitions.
Sure, you can only get 11 out there at a time, but when you're selecting those 11 from the best of a nation that large, it has to have an effect.
At the same time we debuted a couple of blokes who did alright, but I think we gave Starc too many chances instead of trying someone else, and obviously the batting didn't perform well enough in the first 2 Tests.
Yeah I dunno, they've been quite shite in the past and they've had about the same amount of people to select from.
They've obviously got the coaching set up right.......they've always had the batsmen but they actually have some decent fast bowlers for once as well.
@MN5 said in Australia v India:
Yeah I dunno, they've been quite shite in the past and they've had about the same amount of people to select from.
Really?
Look at the last decade:
I count 20 series wins out of 30, and 1 drawn. That isn't too shabby, even if they've struggled in swing-friendly New Zealand
(in the same period, NZ haven't won in India).Over the same period, Australia have won 15 series from 33 (or 34) with 4 drawn. The days of Steve Waugh's legendary sides is long gone.
They've obviously got the coaching set up right.......they've always had the batsmen but they actually have some decent fast bowlers for once as well.
And I think that is actually a product of realising their weaknesses away from home. In England against the Duke, and on green seamers in New Zealand, they weren't doing that well. In Australia we provided them roads to bat on but their bowling wasn't consistent enough.
But it is definitely improving.
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@MN5 said in Australia v India:
Yeah I dunno, they've been quite shite in the past and they've had about the same amount of people to select from.
Really?
Look at the last decade:I count 20 series wins out of 30, and 1 drawn. That isn't too shabby, even if they've struggled in swing-friendly New Zealand
(in the same period, NZ haven't won in India).Over the same period, Australia have won 15 series from 33 (or 34) with 4 drawn. The days of Steve Waugh's legendary sides is long gone.
They've obviously got the coaching set up right.......they've always had the batsmen but they actually have some decent fast bowlers for once as well.
And I think that is actually a product of realising their weaknesses away from home. In England against the Duke, and on green seamers in New Zealand, they weren't doing that well. In Australia we provided them roads to bat on but their bowling wasn't consistent enough.
But it is definitely improving.
@NTA said in Australia v India:
@MN5 said in Australia v India:
Yeah I dunno, they've been quite shite in the past and they've had about the same amount of people to select from.
Really?
Look at the last decade:I count 20 series wins out of 30, and 1 drawn. That isn't too shabby, even if they've struggled in swing-friendly New Zealand
(in the same period, NZ haven't won in India).Over the same period, Australia have won 15 series from 33 (or 34) with 4 drawn. The days of Steve Waugh's legendary sides is long gone.
They've obviously got the coaching set up right.......they've always had the batsmen but they actually have some decent fast bowlers for once as well.
And I think that is actually a product of realising their weaknesses away from home. In England against the Duke, and on green seamers in New Zealand, they weren't doing that well. In Australia we provided them roads to bat on but their bowling wasn't consistent enough.
But it is definitely improving.
Well, shite relatively speaking for a country with a fuckton of players to choose from
I also meant further back than ten years......well I do if it supports my argument at any rate.
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If Pattinson hadnt got injured, I reckon they would have rotated Starc out for this test.
I don't know who their 5th choice would have been, Nesser? Bit of a step down? lack of faith in depth beyond first 4?
@Rapido said in Australia v India:
If Pattinson hadnt got injured, I reckon they would have rotated Starc out for this test.
I don't know who their 5th choice would have been, Nesser? Bit of a step down? lack of faith in depth beyond first 4?
If Pattinson is out, then maybe Abbott or Nesser. A step down in theory, but on form? We'll never know.
I think Starc's continued inclusion after the Second Test was the belief that he just needed to find a rhythm. However, in that he's similar to Mitch Johnson for me: unless he's on at the start, he's not going to be "on" unless you kick him up the arse.
