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  • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/the-race-to-replace-beauden-barrett-who-starts-for-the-blues-in-their-2021-super-rugby-aotearoa-opener/

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    @Daffy-Jaffy that's a pretty poor article.

    MacDonald has already mentioned JRK as a possible fullback option which this article doesn't touch on at all.

    No mention of Faiane's injury.

    No mention of Jacob Pierce as a lock option.

    No mention of the injuries/unavailabilities at hooker.

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    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

      @Daffy-Jaffy that's a pretty poor article.

      MacDonald has already mentioned JRK as a possible fullback option which this article doesn't touch on at all.

      No mention of Faiane's injury.

      No mention of Jacob Pierce as a lock option.

      No mention of the injuries/unavailabilities at hooker.

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      @KiwiMurph good old rugbypass

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        @Steven-Harris

        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/super-rugby-game-changer-blues-historic-move-to-help-keep-young-talent/43SHDHZA2GYYXIJLZSYWXSOTAY/

        Super Rugby: 'Game changer' - Blues' historic move to help keep young talent

        Liam Napier

        27 Jan, 2021

        Blues overhaul talent system with chief executive claiming it will be a "game changer".

        The Blues have signed an historic memorandum of understanding with their three provincial unions to overhaul the region's much-maligned talent identification and set an ambitious goal to establish the world's premier development system.

        Long criticised for letting talented players and coaches slip through their grasp, the Blues hope the new agreement with Northland, North Harbour and Auckland will allow them to capture the best emerging prospects and alter perceptions about a franchise that, while improving, has failed to deliver a title for 18 years.

        The catalyst for the new integrated talent identification system was the independent review completed by high performance consultants Eddie Kohlhase, Ken Lynch and Paul McAlpine in late 2019.

        Changes include the Blues, rather than the provincial unions, first approaching talent. Academies will be improved, with set standards implemented across the three unions. Contracting will also be aligned to ensure specific provincial talent is locked in early by the Blues.

        The final part of the equation is a coaching scholarship which will welcome an emerging mentor into the Blues each year, with a plan for that person to return to work with a provincial union to continue their progression.

        From a playing perspective, Auckland outside backs Zarn Sullivan and AJ Lam joining the Blues this season reflects the projected pathway from all three unions.

        "We believe this can be a game changer for rugby in our region," Blues chief executive Andrew Hore said.

        "Auckland and the Blues region is a funny place in that selection and recruitment is always a point of opinion and with the way the franchise model is constructed, we're not going to be able to keep everybody.

        "But the ones we do decide to keep we want to be sure we've got a greater probability of keeping them, and if they stay here, they have the world's best development experience.

        "This gets dedicated resource to ensure we have paid people to shape the pathway for a high quality level of development over and above anything else you get anywhere else in New Zealand.

        "We're starting to see the fruits of recent work coming through and there's some kids starting to sit up and say 'the best place for us to go is the Blues region'. We want to continue that trend."

        The memorandum of understanding signals something of a sea change in the relationship between the Blues and their provincial partners. Not so long ago, during the fraught Andy Dalton-Murray Bolton era, Auckland were barred from training at the Blues' Alexandra Park base, such was the fractured state of affairs.

        "Covid in a lot of ways brought us closer together because we were sharing similar issues and seeing the frailties in our system," Hore said. "There's always going to be tenson - it's having a level of maturity to work through things.

        "The depth of conversation has been outstanding because people have had to be really honest. In this environment that can be challenging but the fact we got to this point is a sign we tried to find solutions to those problems.

        "We've got to get aligned on the attributes we're wanting to keep, and the attributes we're actually happy to let go. There's only 38 spots in the Blues."

        To oversee talent identification the Blues have appointed Andrew Hewetson as the head of performance development.

        Hewetson brings established relationships, having worked with Counties Manukau, Auckland age-grade and academy teams, and as an assistant at St Kentigern College and Auckland Grammar. For the past five years he was a development consultant at Sport New Zealand.

        "We believe this plan will provide the framework for a systematic, region-wide approach to understanding what it will take to attract, recruit and develop the right players in the right way in an effective development environment," Hore said.

        "We know it will take an extraordinary amount of hard work, goodwill and a willingness to work collaboratively. Equally we are massively excited at the opportunity and challenge ahead of us."

        Auckland Rugby Union chief executive Jarrod Bear said he sees the benefits in working more collaboratively with the Blues and his view was shared by North Harbour chairman, Gerard Van Tilborg, and Northland Rugby Union chief executive Cameron Bell.

        "Northland has long been known throughout Aotearoa as a prolific nursery for producing stunning rugby talent and this collaboration with the Blues will ensure we harness and nurture our very best to have the opportunity to play Super Rugby and beyond," Bell said. "When Northland rugby is at its strongest, the Blues will be too and this is a very positive step forward."

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          Parsons has retired

          https://www.superrugby.co.nz/news/james-parsons-announces-his-retirement-from-all-rugby/

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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            Parsons has retired

            https://www.superrugby.co.nz/news/james-parsons-announces-his-retirement-from-all-rugby/

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            @KiwiMurph I hope he has a future as a commentator, although I wonder if some of his more interesting stuff comes from being a player, he also can discuss and explain modern preparation, tactics, and stats much more clearly than, well, pretty much everyone else out there.

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              Parsons has retired

              https://www.superrugby.co.nz/news/james-parsons-announces-his-retirement-from-all-rugby/

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              @KiwiMurph Not good to hear that his head injury is still causing issues. Sounds very much like Reggie Goodes, James Broadhurst etc.

              I really rate his rugby commentary. It will be interesting to hear what he'll do after retirement.

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                I agree - he's an excellent pundit - hopefully he continues with commentary/podcasts etc.

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                  Seems like a genuinely nice guy too. Hope he's okay in the long run.

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                    I didn't read anything in that media release about replacement. I assume that will be Eklund, who formally doesn't have a contract for this season?

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                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                      I didn't read anything in that media release about replacement. I assume that will be Eklund, who formally doesn't have a contract for this season?

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                      @Stargazer Yeah it's a weird one as Eklund was originally in there as replacing Vikena who is out injured for the year.

                      You've also got Ray Niuia injured currently hence why Tolai and Apisai are training with the Blues at the moment.

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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        Parsons has retired

                        https://www.superrugby.co.nz/news/james-parsons-announces-his-retirement-from-all-rugby/

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                        @KiwiMurph said in Blues 2021:

                        Parsons has retired

                        https://www.superrugby.co.nz/news/james-parsons-announces-his-retirement-from-all-rugby/

                        That's a shame. He cops a lot of stick on here, but he's been a great team man and more than a handy player.

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                          Parsons has played SR for nearly a decade so has had a decent career.

                          He needs to donate his headgear to the Rugby Museum. 🙂

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                            A good servant for us over the years. All the best to him in retirement.

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                            • KirwanK Kirwan

                              @KiwiMurph said in Blues 2021:

                              Parsons has retired

                              https://www.superrugby.co.nz/news/james-parsons-announces-his-retirement-from-all-rugby/

                              That's a shame. He cops a lot of stick on here, but he's been a great team man and more than a handy player.

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                              @Kirwan said in Blues 2021:

                              @KiwiMurph said in Blues 2021:

                              Parsons has retired

                              https://www.superrugby.co.nz/news/james-parsons-announces-his-retirement-from-all-rugby/

                              That's a shame. He cops a lot of stick on here, but he's been a great team man and more than a handy player.

                              My issues were more with the Blues than Parsons himself. For many years Parsons was rolled out as the unquestioned starter, playing huge minutes, and there was little to no development plan behind him. That has improved since Leon has become head coach and some other options have been identified (e.g. Eklund, Tolai, Vikena).

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                                trodthesod
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                                End of a wonderful career.Always a leader and his knowledge of the game undeniable.Congratulations ,as you once said”if I am part of the problem,I want to be part of the solution”I think at the Blues you have been part of the solution.

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                                • KirwanK Kirwan

                                  @KiwiMurph said in Blues 2021:

                                  Parsons has retired

                                  https://www.superrugby.co.nz/news/james-parsons-announces-his-retirement-from-all-rugby/

                                  That's a shame. He cops a lot of stick on here, but he's been a great team man and more than a handy player.

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                                  taniwharugby
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                                  @Kirwan wasnt his fault he kept getting selected and then used as a battering ram ball carrier 😉

                                  I was critical of his ability at that level (as a starter) but was never any question about his work rate or dedication to the team!

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                                    @Kirwan wasnt his fault he kept getting selected and then used as a battering ram ball carrier 😉

                                    I was critical of his ability at that level (as a starter) but was never any question about his work rate or dedication to the team!

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                                    @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

                                    @Kirwan wasnt his fault he kept getting selected and then used as a battering ram ball carrier 😉

                                    I was critical of his ability at that level (as a starter) but was never any question about his work rate or dedication to the team!

                                    Yep, wasn't a dig at the critics, as you say he was a crucial part of the team. It's a shame he didn't get to choose when to retire.

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                                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                      @Kirwan wasnt his fault he kept getting selected and then used as a battering ram ball carrier 😉

                                      I was critical of his ability at that level (as a starter) but was never any question about his work rate or dedication to the team!

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                                      Steven Harris
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                                      @taniwharugby..just checking to see who is the next cab off the rack

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                                        @taniwharugby..just checking to see who is the next cab off the rack

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                                        @Steven-Harris Leni Apisai is training with the team, so I guess he's third hooker. Hope his throwing has improved. There's the young guy from Hawkes Bay who might be available. How about Olsen?

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                                          @Steven-Harris Leni Apisai is training with the team, so I guess he's third hooker. Hope his throwing has improved. There's the young guy from Hawkes Bay who might be available. How about Olsen?

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                                          @Tim think Olsens age (28ish?) probably works against him and while I dont think he turned out for them, he was named in the Canadian squad in 2019.

                                          But I think he would to a good job if given the chance

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