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  • YeetyaahY Online
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    Screenshot_2021-01-22-13-43-41-74.jpg

    From Pita Gus' instagram story. Looks like Gideon Wrampling is also training with the Chiefs.

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        I see that a Chiefs U20s wider training squad has also been in camp. Having a quick look at the photos I recognise a few players.

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        • BovidaeB Bovidae

          I see that a Chiefs U20s wider training squad has also been in camp. Having a quick look at the photos I recognise a few players.

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            I see that a Chiefs U20s wider training squad has also been in camp. Having a quick look at the photos I recognise a few players.

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            @Bovidae I haven't seen a complete list of players, but BOP and Taranaki have posted the names of their U20 playersin the Chiefs U20s wtg.

            BOP
            Kali Vaipulu
            Mason Leaver
            Cassius Misa
            Jona Mataiciwa
            Nikora Broughten
            Melino Fotu
            Kane O’Connor
            Lucas Cashmore
            Te Hemara Gardiner Toi
            Josh Bartlett
            Curtis Palmer
            Veveni Lasaqa
            Nephi Sanerive
            Tama Te Aute
            Arana Millar
            Bernie Hati
            James Porter (Resource Coach)
            Scott Joblin (Strength & Conditioning Trainer)

            Taranaki

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              @Stargazer Don't be expecting Waikato to do the same.

              A few of the Waikato players I can recognise are Hakaraia Richards-Coxhead, Mason Tupaea and Campbell Robb (all front rowers). Also looks like Te Rama Rueben, who I thought would be BOP. Obviously not.

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                @Stargazer Don't be expecting Waikato to do the same.

                A few of the Waikato players I can recognise are Hakaraia Richards-Coxhead, Mason Tupaea and Campbell Robb (all front rowers). Also looks like Te Rama Rueben, who I thought would be BOP. Obviously not.

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                @Bovidae yes the good old Waikato Rugby Union ministry of information is unlikely to be forth comming with with anything insightful....they need lessons in openness from Kim Jong-un...even his outfit is more open.

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                • YeetyaahY Online
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                  https://www.chiefs.co.nz/news-item/gallagher-chiefs-complete-2021-squad-signing-rameka-poihipi.

                  The Chiefs Rugby Club are pleased to announce Māori All Black Rameka Poihipi will complete the Gallagher Chiefs 2021 squad.
                  A product of Hamilton Boys' High School, Poihipi will join the Gallagher Chiefs for the upcoming Super Rugby Aotearoa and Trans- Ta$man Competitions.

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                    That looks like a good pick up. Is it?

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                    • TimT Away
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                      What are the Chiefs first choice forwards going to be? Will Moli be available?

                      Something like:

                      1 Ross
                      2 Harris
                      3 Ta'avao
                      4 Vaa'i
                      5 Brown
                      6 Jacobson
                      7 Cane
                      8 Sowakula

                      16 Taukei'aho
                      17 O'Neill
                      18 Mafileo
                      19 Ah Kuoi
                      20 Boshier

                      Depth will be a bit better than last year due to a better start with injuries and Vaa'i's development?

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                        If everyone is fit and available I would select:

                        1 Ross
                        2 Harris
                        3 Mafileo
                        4 Vaa'i
                        5 Ah Kuoi
                        6 Jacobson
                        7 Cane
                        8 Sowakula

                        16 Taukei'aho
                        17 Moli
                        18 Ta'avao
                        19 Brown
                        20 Boshier

                        Mafileo would be best as the starter if in the 23, and Moli and Ta'avao more suited as the impact props.
                        Brown might be preferred at 6 with Jacobson at no.8 (Sowakula to the reserves). I don't think Boshier should start with Cane based on the options for no.8.

                        McMillan will have his own ideas so it's hard to know at this stage.

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                          Some points of interest:

                          The Chiefs are reverting to co-captains this season and an announcement on the new skipper is due next week. Weber, Lienert-Brown and 14-test prop Angus Ta’avao, who has captained Taranaki and Auckland in the Mitre 10 Cup, are among those in contention but Chiefs assistant coach David Hill confirmed they were still deciding.

                          Hill also indicated the Chiefs would be changing the way they play but wouldn’t specify how, saying “I can't give you all the secrets” with a grin, but said McMillan has particularly highlighted the need to tweak their defensive systems.

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300221373/super-rugby-sam-cane-given-extra-week-off-as-all-blacks-return-to-chiefs-for-preseason

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                            What are people's thoughts on Sowakula? For some reason I thought he was 28+ and Fiji capped but he's only 26 and NZ-eligible, however I can't see him even entering the discussion for the ABs. Placeholder or still improving?

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                              What are people's thoughts on Sowakula? For some reason I thought he was 28+ and Fiji capped but he's only 26 and NZ-eligible, however I can't see him even entering the discussion for the ABs. Placeholder or still improving?

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                              @mofitzy_

                              Placeholder who shouldn't be starting, and, if I were honest, should take the money overseas and turn out for Fiji. He's a fantastic athlete (originally a Basketballer) and does a reasonable job for us at this level, but he won't be an AB.

                              Further, IMO Jacobson is a better 8, is younger, and has a bigger future. Sowakula off the bench would be my preferred way of using him, but perhaps Jacobson 6, Cane 7, and Sowakula at 8 will be needed - especially if we have to run out a short and light second row again (i.e., basically running out five loose forwards).

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                                Agree with @gt12

                                Sowakula has the physical attributes (big, fast) but hasn't shown any consistency yet. His biggest issue is ball control, often losing the ball in contact. Watch the start of the Moana Pasifika-Maori game as an example.

                                The Chiefs have selected two young no.8s in the squad (Parker, K Boshier) but neither are ready yet.

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                                  Agree with @gt12

                                  Sowakula has the physical attributes (big, fast) but hasn't shown any consistency yet. His biggest issue is ball control, often losing the ball in contact. Watch the start of the Moana Pasifika-Maori game as an example.

                                  The Chiefs have selected two young no.8s in the squad (Parker, K Boshier) but neither are ready yet.

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                                  @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2021:

                                  Agree with @gt12

                                  Sowakula has the physical attributes (big, fast) but hasn't shown any consistency yet. His biggest issue is ball control, often losing the ball in contact. Watch the start of the Moana Pasifika-Maori game as an example.

                                  The Chiefs have selected two young no.8s in the squad (Parker, K Boshier) but neither are ready yet.

                                  He does have a bit Shield's disease (i.e., tits for hands).
                                  I didn't realize that he was also converted winger, which might be another reason why he isn't as comfortable with his handling in traffic.

                                  If we had a few better pieces around the forward pack (e.g. one more quality prop, BBBR back), I could see PGS as a really valuable role player, which will had plenty of 10 years ago when we were a Championship side.

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                                    Sky have replayed the 2012 and 2013 SR finals over recent months so I recorded both. I watched the 2012 final last week and the likes of Kane Thompson were very important pieces of that team. But that side was based around no-name players plucked from the regions.

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                                      @mofitzy_

                                      Placeholder who shouldn't be starting, and, if I were honest, should take the money overseas and turn out for Fiji. He's a fantastic athlete (originally a Basketballer) and does a reasonable job for us at this level, but he won't be an AB.

                                      Further, IMO Jacobson is a better 8, is younger, and has a bigger future. Sowakula off the bench would be my preferred way of using him, but perhaps Jacobson 6, Cane 7, and Sowakula at 8 will be needed - especially if we have to run out a short and light second row again (i.e., basically running out five loose forwards).

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                                      @gt12 nice description really, fully agree. I think he suffers from white line fever a bit as well.

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                                        https://tiponrugby.substack.com/p/bay-dreams

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                                          Who is the most likely candidate for the second coming of Maori Jesus? Tupaea, Sullivan or Pohipi?

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