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<br><br><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="jegga" data-cid="567900" data-time="1459154652"><p>hopefully next time these losers decide to March demanding sharia law the authorities get plenty video of the losers and then break out the water cannons and batons . The way sharia law views lbgt people and women must surely amount to hate speech .<br></p></blockquote>
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Yeah never going to happen while secular versus religious law produces conflict.<br><br>
Some survey I was reading about (maybe a Euro country?) was used by haters as proof Muslims wanted Sharia to take over their country. The second question was "would it apply to non-Muslims?" To which a large majority said No.<br><br>
But that is still going to cause issues, obviously. <br><br><br><br>
So, more arrests in Brussels, but in Pakistan they must be wondering what their strategy is going to look like now. Assuming the Talib and other extremists would just hide in the mountains isn't apparently a thing any more.<br><br>
Syrian forces, supported by Russian air strikes, have retaken Palmyra. ISIL lost something like 400 dead and military sources are calling it a significant blow on three fronts:<br><br>
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Pakistan has this on its doorstep to deal with <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waziristan'>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waziristan</a><br><br>
It's hard to feel much sympathy for their secret service and government when they get up to stuff like this <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Indian_embassy_bombing_in_Kabul'>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Indian_embassy_bombing_in_Kabul</a><br><br>
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<p><strong>So, more arrests in Brussels</strong>, but in Pakistan they must be wondering what their strategy is going to look like now. Assuming the Talib and other extremists would just hide in the mountains isn't apparently a thing any more.<br>
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<p>Although they've let go the guy they arrested re the actual bombing.</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35911401'>http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35911401</a></p>
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Shame he didn't fall down the stairs a couple of times while he was locked up.</p></blockquote>
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<p>I was amused/irked last night at a BBC reporter on the news. He described some protesters as 'thugs'.... probably quite correct. Did not seem like they were being very pleasant. But since when has it been ok for the BBC to use pejorative terms like that? Do they refer to ISIS as women and women murdering Islamic Asshats? .. also quite true.</p>
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<p>I was amused/irked last night at a BBC reporter on the news. He described some protesters as 'thugs'.... probably quite correct. Did not seem like they were being very pleasant. But since when has it been ok for the BBC to use pejorative terms like that? Do they refer to ISIS as women and women murdering Islamic Asshats? .. also quite true.</p>
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<p>The bias at the BBC is getting worse.</p>
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<p>I dunno about bias as such. Leftitst PC bollocks all the way I'd agree with. Can't be seen not to cheerlead for the underprivileged. However that might be perceived by this in their ivory towers.</p> -
<p>I don't think there are many media outlets left that don't have bias. Too much competition, need a point of difference, and clickbait is more important than truth when $$$ are totalled.</p>
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<p>Some will lean to the right. Some will lean to the left. A percentage of the population won't agree with both.</p> -
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I don't think there are many media outlets left that don't have bias. Too much competition, need a point of difference, and clickbait is more important than truth when $$$ are totalled.<br><br>
Some will lean to the right. Some will lean to the left. A percentage of the population won't agree with both.</p></blockquote>
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Too right. People don't want a balanced report. They don't want to be educated, they want to be entertained. <br><br>
You see the same sort of thing here on the fern. The posts that generate the most responses are often the ones with a strong opinion one way or the other. Winger for example... -
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<p>I don't think there are many media outlets left that don't have bias. Too much competition, need a point of difference, and clickbait is more important than truth when $$$ are totalled.</p>
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<p>Some will lean to the right. Some will lean to the left. A percentage of the population won't agree with both.</p>
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<p>Most TV outlets have a clear left bias IMO.</p>
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<p>Look at the supposed derision Fox News gets, just because it has a right bias. Yet the stations that have a left bias get a much easier ride.</p>
<p>As for the BBC they have ZERO excuse to be biased, they are publicly funded. I would be pretty ticked off if I was a British tax [payer seeing what they have become. </p> -
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Most TV outlets have a clear left bias IMO.<br><br>
Look at the supposed derision Fox News gets, just because it has a right bias. Yet the stations that have a left bias get a much easier ride.<br>
As for the BBC they have ZERO excuse to be biased, they are publicly funded. I would be pretty ticked off if I was a British tax [payer seeing what they have become.</p></blockquote>
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Same with ABC in Australia. If a commercial media player wants to go left or right I couldn't give a shit. But when a publicly funded broadcaster refuses to be balanced then that is a disgrace. <br><br>
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<p>Same with ABC in Australia. If a commercial media player wants to go left or right I couldn't give a shit. But when a publicly funded broadcaster refuses to be balanced then that is a disgrace.<br><br>
What I also find amusing is that Fox News cops shit for being biased, but apparently the NY Times, Guardian, BBC, CNN and NBC etc. are considered independent and impartial.</p>
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<p>But that is also why Trumps attacks against the media are finding fertile ground. People can judge impartiality for themselves.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Baron Silas Greenback" data-cid="568040" data-time="1459217030"><p>People can judge impartiality for themselves.</p></blockquote><br>Cognitive bias.
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<p>Cognitive bias.</p>
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<p>What about it?</p>
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<p>Generally nowdays more and more people just throw out the term cognitive bias when what they really mean is 'I don't agree with them but cannot explain why .. so therefore I will use a complex term I barely understand.'</p> -
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<p>Same with ABC in Australia. If a commercial media player wants to go left or right I couldn't give a shit. But when a publicly funded broadcaster refuses to be balanced then that is a disgrace.</p>
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<p>Depending on where you stand on the political spectrum, your view on "balance" is going to be coloured.</p>
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<p>Partly because the political spectrum here doesn't really have a middle ground any more - a place where the parties could come together on more issues (outside offshore detention) and get a bit of progress happening. Like, I dunno, giving a shit about the people they're meant to serve? Either party tends toward spending the first half of any public engagement talking about how shit the other side are. Frustrating.</p>
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<p>Rather than ignore some of the stuff Fox trots out, opponents go screaming about its bias. Kind of legitimises them and gives the whole thing oxygen. In contrast, networks like Fox are mostly dismissive of the rest, and fall back on arch conservative values, which are warm and cosy for their supporters. </p>
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<p>EDIT: and I realise we've extensively covered Q&A previously. There are some episodes, as I said at the time, that I had little time for, mostly due to the tone of the questioning. At least with the scientists on, there is the chance to learn something (Brian Greene was awesome), but with the politicians is the same slanging match every week.</p> -
<p>Good to see the Egyptian authorities asked some serious searching questions of their security after the Russian airliner crash and ensured a similar thing could never happen again.*</p>
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<p>*If it turns out he is a nutter pretending to have a bomb I probably wont take any of that back.</p>
