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Hurricanes v Blues

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    @dan54 said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    I will say after my last post, I am beginning to worry about Laumape, I know I had discussion with someone on here about him, and saying he shouldn't need to be disrespected to get stuck in, he seemed a little lost again, I hope he not going a little like Akira was, thinking an occasional big game is good enough?

    I had high hopes for Laumape - you can't see many 12s around with his physical attributes. Could use some coaching in passing though.

    Seriously, though, who are the contenders? THey don't look dominant:
    Plummer (hoping for a great season, but not there yet
    P Tomkinson
    Goodhue (better at 13)
    McLeod (aka who?)

    the cupboard is pretty bare. Love TJ Faiane to bits at Super/Mitre10, but not big enough for tests I fear

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    @nzzp ALB is best NZ 12 for me. Actually I might play ALB and Jack Goodhue as left and right midfielders, then Reiko Ioane or Peter Umaga-Jensen as the replacement off the bench.

    Caleb Clarke might eventually be a 12 but looks a handful on the left wing for now.

    In terms of Laumape, he looks a lot better behind a dominant pack. He's a worth a place in the AB squad but wouldn't be my first-choice starter at 12.

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      @dan54 said in Hurricanes v Blues:

      I will say after my last post, I am beginning to worry about Laumape, I know I had discussion with someone on here about him, and saying he shouldn't need to be disrespected to get stuck in, he seemed a little lost again, I hope he not going a little like Akira was, thinking an occasional big game is good enough?

      I had high hopes for Laumape - you can't see many 12s around with his physical attributes. Could use some coaching in passing though.

      Seriously, though, who are the contenders? THey don't look dominant:
      Plummer (hoping for a great season, but not there yet
      P Tomkinson
      Goodhue (better at 13)
      McLeod (aka who?)

      the cupboard is pretty bare. Love TJ Faiane to bits at Super/Mitre10, but not big enough for tests I fear

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      @nzzp Let's see how Havili goes at 12. We might see a Havili-Goodhue combo in action this weekend (probably depending on whether Jordan is fit to play at fullback).

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        Tupaea to me is the dark horse at 12 for me. Of course a lot will depend on if he can get game time there.

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          Tupaea to me is the dark horse at 12 for me. Of course a lot will depend on if he can get game time there.

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          @kiwimurph Yep, and I'll add Toala. I saw him play again on the weekend and that kid just got something. Both of them probably more post-RWC2023.

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          • StargazerS Stargazer

            @nzzp Let's see how Havili goes at 12. We might see a Havili-Goodhue combo in action this weekend (probably depending on whether Jordan is fit to play at fullback).

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            @stargazer Have to say I can see Havili having a say there to. I think the style Laumape plays ,he is not really big enough to do it at test level. Real keen on ALB , but beginning to think he maybe better at 13, but would be more than happy with him at 12, he could very well be the glue type player in backline ala Crotty.

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              @nzzp ALB is best NZ 12 for me. Actually I might play ALB and Jack Goodhue as left and right midfielders, then Reiko Ioane or Peter Umaga-Jensen as the replacement off the bench.

              Caleb Clarke might eventually be a 12 but looks a handful on the left wing for now.

              In terms of Laumape, he looks a lot better behind a dominant pack. He's a worth a place in the AB squad but wouldn't be my first-choice starter at 12.

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              @sparky said in Hurricanes v Blues:

              @nzzp ALB is best NZ 12 for me.

              I agree. He was outstanding a couple of seasons ago - not sure why he didn't get much gametime there last year. Also, he's only 25 -- still so young

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                If I was involved in NZR I'd be asking Charles Piutau if he was interested in a return to NZ Rugby to play 12 ahead of 2023.

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                • sparkyS sparky

                  If I was involved in NZR I'd be asking Charles Piutau if he was interested in a return to NZ Rugby to play 12 ahead of 2023.

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                  @sparky

                  Playing a fullback in the midfield at a RWC has never really worked for us in the past

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                    @nzzp ALB is best NZ 12 for me. Actually I might play ALB and Jack Goodhue as left and right midfielders, then Reiko Ioane or Peter Umaga-Jensen as the replacement off the bench.

                    Caleb Clarke might eventually be a 12 but looks a handful on the left wing for now.

                    In terms of Laumape, he looks a lot better behind a dominant pack. He's a worth a place in the AB squad but wouldn't be my first-choice starter at 12.

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                    @sparky said in Hurricanes v Blues:

                    he looks a lot better behind a dominant pack.

                    As does every back.

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                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                      @kiwimurph Yep, and I'll add Toala. I saw him play again on the weekend and that kid just got something. Both of them probably more post-RWC2023.

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                      @stargazer said in Hurricanes v Blues:

                      Yep, and I'll add Toala. I

                      But at a much lower level. And wasn't he not even a certain selection for HB. But he's young still (21 - 22 in 2 days). He looked a player to watch in his one start for the Canes back in 2019. So was surprised he was ignored last year, Esp with the limited Chase Tiatia getting a number of starts

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                          @duluth was walking very gingerly in the lead up to the cross kick try and did not look any better as the match progressed

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                            @duluth was walking very gingerly in the lead up to the cross kick try and did not look any better as the match progressed

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                            @steven-harris he stayed on for 25 minutes after that try though. And it looked like he was still able to get up to full speed when he needed to. They were certainly working on his calf earlier in the game.

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                              Did Jordie Barrett use arms in the tackle at just past 3 mins in?

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                                @steven-harris he stayed on for 25 minutes after that try though. And it looked like he was still able to get up to full speed when he needed to. They were certainly working on his calf earlier in the game.

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                                @kiwimurph said in Hurricanes v Blues:

                                @steven-harris he stayed on for 25 minutes after that try though. And it looked like he was still able to get up to full speed when he needed to. They were certainly working on his calf earlier in the game.

                                Weirdly he seemed to be able to sprint more freely than jog or walk. Good attitude to play through and kept busy.

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                                  I see the referees made a picture to defend the conversion decision (shown on the breakdown)

                                  Red lines, red circles. Could've done with some arrows

                                  Hur conv.png

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                                    I see the referees made a picture to defend the conversion decision (shown on the breakdown)

                                    Red lines, red circles. Could've done with some arrows

                                    Hur conv.png

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                                    @duluth the fact that 2 officials standing UNDER the posts thought it missed, yet people on TV and sitting in the stands clearly had a better view than them.

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                                      I read that the TMO also indicated the conversion missed when Ardie asked Williams.

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                                      • DuluthD Duluth

                                        I see the referees made a picture to defend the conversion decision (shown on the breakdown)

                                        Red lines, red circles. Could've done with some arrows

                                        Hur conv.png

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                                        @duluth How is there an argument on this? The ref under that post is surely the only one who can see if has gome between the uprights! FFS I a Canes man but can't believe anyone seeing it on tv or somewhere in ground thinks they got better angle. There are getting to be some serious whingers in our our game!

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