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Hurricanes 2021

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    @stargazer said in Hurricanes 2021:

    @tim So there might be a Blackwell-Mitchell or Blackwell-Fifita locking duo on Saturday, if IWL isn't ready to return. I haven't seen Le'aupepe in any photos, so not sure he's even training. And a loosie (Flanders, Prinsep) might need to cover. Good luck to them against the All Black locks in the Crusaders squad.

    Blackwell was poor but he will start again. I would start Mitchell and Fifita at lock if the other locks are out. But if Blackwell starts they really need Fifita at 6 to provide another decent line-out option to make up for Blackwells lack of height

    Edit Flanders wasn't great at the WE. But I would start him again at 8 to see how he goes. And really it should have been him taken off for Kirifi unless the team has another lock option in the reserves

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    @winger Flanders was good at the weekend. It was a miscommunication between Blackwell and Fifita that caused the try (you can even hear the commentators say it (and than a second time after the game); it wasn't Flanders' fault as you keep on saying. Defensively, he was excelent; he went through heaps of work and was the top tackler of all 46 players taking the field with 10 tackles and 0 missed tackles. (Fifita only made 1 and missed 1, so they were right to take him off.)

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      @winger Flanders was good at the weekend. It was a miscommunication between Blackwell and Fifita that caused the try (you can even hear the commentators say it (and than a second time after the game); it wasn't Flanders' fault as you keep on saying. Defensively, he was excelent; he went through heaps of work and was the top tackler of all 46 players taking the field with 10 tackles and 0 missed tackles. (Fifita only made 1 and missed 1, so they were right to take him off.)

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      @stargazer said in Hurricanes 2021:

      @winger Flanders was good at the weekend. It was a miscommunication between Blackwell and Fifita that caused the try (you can even hear the commentators say it (and than a second time after the game); it wasn't Flanders' fault as you keep on saying. Defensively, he was excelent; he went through heaps of work and was the top tackler of all 46 players taking the field with 10 tackles and 0 missed tackles. (Fifita only made 1 and missed 1, so they were right to take him off.)

      Yep, I don’t know how anyone can blame Flanders for that fuck up by Fifita and Blackwell. Those two should have had their eyes open and Fifita should have caught the pass that went straight to him. Blackwell shouldn’t have thrown his arms up like an idiot and put Fifita off.

      I still don’t know how Blackwell is a regular starting player in a super rugby team. He is clearly fit because he is always “there” just seems when he gets involved he is either fucking it up, getting in the way or just having zero impact.

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        @Stargazer Ruben Love looks okay in his training gear from today’s training session.

        https://www.instagram.com/p/CL5zaKsjZJd/?igshid=katu7jryjnmc

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        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

          @Stargazer Ruben Love looks okay in his training gear from today’s training session.

          https://www.instagram.com/p/CL5zaKsjZJd/?igshid=katu7jryjnmc

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          @canes4life That's a relief. It looked bad on Saturday, but maybe that stretcher was a precaution.

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            @canes4life That's a relief. It looked bad on Saturday, but maybe that stretcher was a precaution.

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            @stargazer for sure. Glad he’s okay and hopefully gets a run at some point this season. We can’t do any worse at this point.

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            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

              @stargazer for sure. Glad he’s okay and hopefully gets a run at some point this season. We can’t do any worse at this point.

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              @canes4life They may want to give Jordie a rest at some point. Although there's a bit of a queue of players who will be looking to get game time. Also don't forget he's a young, very green player. He may not even get a run in his first year (that's far from unusual).

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              • StargazerS Stargazer

                @canes4life They may want to give Jordie a rest at some point. Although there's a bit of a queue of players who will be looking to get game time. Also don't forget he's a young, very green player. He may not even get a run in his first year (that's far from unusual).

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                @stargazer don’t forget he was in and around the squad last year so he’s not totally green, but he is still very young so beat to ease him into it I guess even though it will most likely be a dud Canes season.

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                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/124448813/super-rugby-aotearoa-hurricanes-circle-offcontract-highlander-folau-fakatava

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                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/124448813/super-rugby-aotearoa-hurricanes-circle-offcontract-highlander-folau-fakatava

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                    @tim @Stargazer will be a happy happy man if this comes to fruition.

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                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                      @tim @Stargazer will be a happy happy man if this comes to fruition.

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                      @canes4life as should any canes fan?

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                        @canes4life as should any canes fan?

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                        @taniwharugby I’d be happier if we signed a couple decent tight forwards.

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                          @tim @Stargazer will be a happy happy man if this comes to fruition.

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                          @canes4life Signing him is not enough; he needs to get sufficient game time, too. :face_with_raised_eyebrow: Knowing the Canes, he'll be stuck behind TJP (if he decides to return) for the next few years. So probably not better off than when he stays at the Landers. If TJP moves on, then things could be different ...

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                            @canes4life Signing him is not enough; he needs to get sufficient game time, too. :face_with_raised_eyebrow: Knowing the Canes, he'll be stuck behind TJP (if he decides to return) for the next few years. So probably not better off than when he stays at the Landers. If TJP moves on, then things could be different ...

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                            @stargazer yeah I can't see why he'd go to the canes to be behind TJ, there are better places. Hopefully I'm wrong tho

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                              @canes4life Signing him is not enough; he needs to get sufficient game time, too. :face_with_raised_eyebrow: Knowing the Canes, he'll be stuck behind TJP (if he decides to return) for the next few years. So probably not better off than when he stays at the Landers. If TJP moves on, then things could be different ...

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                              @stargazer He will also probably be stuck being Luke Campbell, who is essentially a Wellington product afterall, as well!
                              Incidentally who of Booth, TJP, Taumateine, Campbell, Roiguard or the almost inexhaustible supply of halfbacks brought in by the WRFU get given the DCM to fit Fakatava in?

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                                @stargazer He will also probably be stuck being Luke Campbell, who is essentially a Wellington product afterall, as well!
                                Incidentally who of Booth, TJP, Taumateine, Campbell, Roiguard or the almost inexhaustible supply of halfbacks brought in by the WRFU get given the DCM to fit Fakatava in?

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                                @higgins Roigard is only an injury replacement for Booth, so he doesn't count. Campbell only has a one-year contract (brought in because TJP isn't there). So he'd have to replace either Booth or Taumateine, who are also off-contract. In fact, the Canes have not a single halfback contracted for 2022 and beyond, yet.

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                                • HigginsH Higgins

                                  @stargazer He will also probably be stuck being Luke Campbell, who is essentially a Wellington product afterall, as well!
                                  Incidentally who of Booth, TJP, Taumateine, Campbell, Roiguard or the almost inexhaustible supply of halfbacks brought in by the WRFU get given the DCM to fit Fakatava in?

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                                  @higgins said in Hurricanes 2021:

                                  @stargazer He will also probably be stuck being Luke Campbell, who is essentially a Wellington product afterall, as well!
                                  Incidentally who of Booth, TJP, Taumateine, Campbell, Roiguard or the almost inexhaustible supply of halfbacks brought in by the WRFU get given the DCM to fit Fakatava in?

                                  fine!, you twisted my arm....we'll keep him.....

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                                    @higgins Roigard is only an injury replacement for Booth, so he doesn't count. Campbell only has a one-year contract (brought in because TJP isn't there). So he'd have to replace either Booth or Taumateine, who are also off-contract. In fact, the Canes have not a single halfback contracted for 2022 and beyond, yet.

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                                    @stargazer Oh that's interesting. Looks like we might be able to witness another couple of imported schoolboy superstar halfbacks running round in Petone, MSP and OBU colours this season then!

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                                      @stargazer Oh that's interesting. Looks like we might be able to witness another couple of imported schoolboy superstar halfbacks running round in Petone, MSP and OBU colours this season then!

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                                      @higgins Yep, Wellington has already signed Hawke's Bay product Treyah Kingi-Taukamo for their academy, but he won't be ready for SR in 2022.

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                                        @kpkanz in response to your comments on Jordie. We are talking about fullback not wing. Jordie was the better fullback last year so judging him as a winger is stupid - he just doesn’t have the pace. His height, size and kicking game are suited to 15. Go and watch some of his highlights for the Canes last year, he was fucking brilliant and would have lead most of the stats if he didn’t miss those first two rounds.

                                        He’s a totally different to players like Jordan and Ben Smith who are able to move to the right or left wing as they have the pace to do so.

                                        If you think Jordan and Jordie are like for like then ask Jordan to kick a 60m shot at goal.

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                                        • TimT Tim

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/124448813/super-rugby-aotearoa-hurricanes-circle-offcontract-highlander-folau-fakatava

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                                          @tim said in Hurricanes 2021:

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/124448813/super-rugby-aotearoa-hurricanes-circle-offcontract-highlander-folau-fakatava

                                          How very un Canes like to try sign a player with Flair though we should’ve thrown at least a development contract at him when he came out of school.

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