Hurricanes 2021
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@stargazer Aumua is a big loss. JGB not so much but not having a 10 is obviously an issue.
@yeetyaah Not having a 10 happens when you're shit at talent indentification, recruitment and development.
There's a good NPC 10 working on a Hawke's Bay building site, who's training for the club rugby competition. :man_facepalming_medium-dark_skin_tone: If only they'd invested in him the last 2 years like they've done with some Wellington schoolboys over the years (remember TJ Va'a?) ...
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@yeetyaah Not having a 10 happens when you're shit at talent indentification, recruitment and development.
There's a good NPC 10 working on a Hawke's Bay building site, who's training for the club rugby competition. :man_facepalming_medium-dark_skin_tone: If only they'd invested in him the last 2 years like they've done with some Wellington schoolboys over the years (remember TJ Va'a?) ...
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@stargazer yeah I do remember Va'a. What ever happened to him?
@yeetyaah I know that, after he lost his Hurricanes contract (during which he was injured most of the time and he never played for them), he played club rugby for Wainuiomata and then went to Australia (not sure when he left). He played some club rugby for Wainuimata again, last year, but that may have had to do with COVID. Not sure where he is now.
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@yeetyaah Not having a 10 happens when you're shit at talent indentification, recruitment and development.
There's a good NPC 10 working on a Hawke's Bay building site, who's training for the club rugby competition. :man_facepalming_medium-dark_skin_tone: If only they'd invested in him the last 2 years like they've done with some Wellington schoolboys over the years (remember TJ Va'a?) ...
@stargazer said in Hurricanes 2021:
Not having a 10 happens when you're shit at talent indentification, recruitment and development.
Agree. They have lost a first 2. JGB has an injury issue. And Love seesm to be out. But both Morgan and Love were played at FB in the next level game. So they've had 2 games to decide on another option to Barrett. Yet they now want to decide during training FFS. Including Leger. my view is if they have doubts about Leger then give it to Barrett. And use training to get him ready.
Forget Morgan. He only 19. And hes not an impressive physical specimen for his age (1.72cm etc). I thought he looked ordinary for Wellington last year. Totally unimpressed (opposite with Love). But coaches seem to like short players. Maybe if he can put on weight hes another lock option
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O Ledger and S Cruden were the stating first five in the Hunters v Hurricanes Regional XV a couple of weeks back so logic seems to indicate that one of those should be the next in line for the first five position. Sadly the words logic and the Hurricanes selectors do not belong in the same sentence so they will probably go with some pet Wellington project like A Morgan or C Harkin!
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@yeetyaah I know that, after he lost his Hurricanes contract (during which he was injured most of the time and he never played for them), he played club rugby for Wainuiomata and then went to Australia (not sure when he left). He played some club rugby for Wainuimata again, last year, but that may have had to do with COVID. Not sure where he is now.
@stargazer He’s still floating around our club here in Wainuiomata...
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@kiwimurph said in Hurricanes 2021:
@winger said in Hurricanes 2021:
Hes playing well enough. Esp playing in a poorly functioning team
For an AB spot? I cannot agree. He's certainly in good nick and playing better than he was in 2020 Mitre 10 Cup but he clearly lacks the explosiveness/speed when you compare him to Clarke, Nareki, Fainga'anuku, Reece etc. Heck even Rayasi in 15 minutes on the field showed more.
Totally. He was playing in the centres in the NH, and that is where his body is at now. But had he got the skills to do that at a higher level still, and the mental awareness?
@machpants said in Hurricanes 2021:
@kiwimurph said in Hurricanes 2021:
@winger said in Hurricanes 2021:
Hes playing well enough. Esp playing in a poorly functioning team
For an AB spot? I cannot agree. He's certainly in good nick and playing better than he was in 2020 Mitre 10 Cup but he clearly lacks the explosiveness/speed when you compare him to Clarke, Nareki, Fainga'anuku, Reece etc. Heck even Rayasi in 15 minutes on the field showed more.
Totally. He was playing in the centres in the NH, and that is where his body is at now. But had he got the skills to do that at a higher level still, and the mental awareness?
Big winger who slows down a bit but sees his future in the midfield ?
Yeah, no fucken chance.....
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@machpants said in Hurricanes 2021:
@kiwimurph said in Hurricanes 2021:
@winger said in Hurricanes 2021:
Hes playing well enough. Esp playing in a poorly functioning team
For an AB spot? I cannot agree. He's certainly in good nick and playing better than he was in 2020 Mitre 10 Cup but he clearly lacks the explosiveness/speed when you compare him to Clarke, Nareki, Fainga'anuku, Reece etc. Heck even Rayasi in 15 minutes on the field showed more.
Totally. He was playing in the centres in the NH, and that is where his body is at now. But had he got the skills to do that at a higher level still, and the mental awareness?
Big winger who slows down a bit but sees his future in the midfield ?
Yeah, no fucken chance.....
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@mn5 I was totally thinking of Tana, and that's what he played in NH. But has Savea got the nous and skills that Tana developed? I don't think so
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@machpants Savea played some midfield for Wellington last year and he didn't look that flash.
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Very different kind of work-rate and skills between those two. Tana was an excellent passer and almost another loosie, he naturally suited moving to the midfield.
@gt12 said in Hurricanes 2021:
Very different kind of work-rate and skills between those two. Tana was an excellent passer and almost another loosie, he naturally suited moving to the midfield.
Plus Tana moved in because he felt he’d lost some top end pace, not because he’d been shit for 5 years.
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@gt12 said in Hurricanes 2021:
Very different kind of work-rate and skills between those two. Tana was an excellent passer and almost another loosie, he naturally suited moving to the midfield.
Plus Tana moved in because he felt he’d lost some top end pace, not because he’d been shit for 5 years.
@nepia said in Hurricanes 2021:
@gt12 said in Hurricanes 2021:
Very different kind of work-rate and skills between those two. Tana was an excellent passer and almost another loosie, he naturally suited moving to the midfield.
Plus Tana moved in because he felt he’d lost some top end pace, not because he’d been shit for 5 years.
And had an eye for the game, could anticipate what was happening... and would typically only hit the deck if tackled by someone else, not just because he fell over.
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@kiwimurph So basically everything will stay the same for the next two years. Same shit recruitment and selections.
No vision.
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@bones said in Hurricanes 2021:
Canes have gone rotten (again) eh. That sucks.
Its a shame. It was good when the three other teams (Chiefs Highlanders and Canes) all had a good chance at winning. Now its back to these three just making up the numbers
But there is hope. Blues have shown it starts with the board. Get a strong board and the ship can be righted fairly quickly. But for the Canes its unlikely to happen any time soon. So we are stuck with mediocre and just making up the numbers. With poor recruitment, poor selections and poor coaching -
Till 2023!! ffs.
