Americas Cup

[Damo]

@canefan said in Americas Cup:

@damo said in Americas Cup:

I feel sorry for the commentators who have to try and pretend something interesting is happening after the start.

Like test cricket?

Sort of but in test cricket the commentators are much more relaxed. They can tell stories and don't have to pretend that every ball is exciting.

[nzzp]

@damo said in Americas Cup:

@canefan said in Americas Cup:

@damo said in Americas Cup:

I feel sorry for the commentators who have to try and pretend something interesting is happening after the start.

Like test cricket?

Sort of but in test cricket the commentators are much more relaxed. They can tell stories and don't have to pretend that every ball is exciting.

that's what I liked about the recent India england pitches - every ball was 'must watch'

[Bovidae]

@canefan said in Americas Cup:

AC has become women's tennis singles. Both teams struggle to hold serve

You could say the script was written by the WWE.

[canefan]

TNZ win by close to 1300m. We are definitely faster, just not fast enough in current air conditions to put drag LR once we are behind

[Crucial]

@damo said in Americas Cup:

I feel sorry for the commentators who have to try and pretend something interesting is happening after the start.

Amen. This is more tedious than F1.
I absolutely admire the technology and engineering advancement but FFS I want to see a battle not follow the leader

[taniwharugby]

@crucial yeah there needs to be several lead changes, is rather sad that so much of the race hinges in the pre-start.

Sure it takes smarts and tactics to win the start, but whats the point of the other 6 legs if the start is all but the winning of the race?

THe only consolation is that it is 2-2 instead of 4-0 as some predicted.

[Machpants]

@crucial said in Americas Cup:

@damo said in Americas Cup:

I feel sorry for the commentators who have to try and pretend something interesting is happening after the start.

Amen. This is more tedious than F1.
I absolutely admire the technology and engineering advancement but FFS I want to see a battle not follow the leader

Maybe it should be more like the raftarama, water canons and paint bomb catapults

[Machpants]

@taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

@crucial yeah there needs to be several lead changes, is rather sad that so much of the race hinges in the pre-start.

Sure it takes smarts and tactics to win the start, but whats the point of the other 6 legs if the start is all but the winning of the race?

THe only consolation is that it is 2-2 instead of 4-0 as some predicted.

You could make it first to 99 start wins, just do heaps of starts, one after the other

[Blackeyeagain]

Interesting choice from tvnz immediately after the racing was finished and with a lot of families watching they choose to promote their own program, one minute were all looking at a positive race and then boom were into criminals

[taniwharugby]

so on the TVNZ Sports piece, they have Burling as the 'Flight Controller' but Spittal as 'co-helmsman'

Do we have co-helmsman too, or do LR have a Flight Controller?

[voodoo]

So the start wins the race 100% of the time cos dirty air, yeah?

So going back to someone's (@Crucial maybe?) question a while back, why not just split if you lose the start? Give up 100m off the bat, but get some clear air?

What do you have to lose?

[Damo]

@voodoo said in Americas Cup:

So the start wins the race 100% of the time cos dirty air, yeah?

So going back to someone's (@Crucial maybe?) question a while back, why not just split if you lose the start? Give up 100m off the bat, but get some clear air?

What do you have to lose?

You can't, the boat in the lead just goes with you.

[canefan]

@damo said in Americas Cup:

@voodoo said in Americas Cup:

So the start wins the race 100% of the time cos dirty air, yeah?

So going back to someone's (@Crucial maybe?) question a while back, why not just split if you lose the start? Give up 100m off the bat, but get some clear air?

What do you have to lose?

You can't, the boat in the lead just goes with you.

Match racing 101

[voodoo]

@damo said in Americas Cup:

@voodoo said in Americas Cup:

So the start wins the race 100% of the time cos dirty air, yeah?

So going back to someone's (@Crucial maybe?) question a while back, why not just split if you lose the start? Give up 100m off the bat, but get some clear air?

What do you have to lose?

You can't, the boat in the lead just goes with you.

Would they though? LR didn't cover every time in the 1st race yesterday, the commentators were a bit surprised though

[Crucial]

@voodoo said in Americas Cup:

So the start wins the race 100% of the time cos dirty air, yeah?

So going back to someone's (@Crucial maybe?) question a while back, why not just split if you lose the start? Give up 100m off the bat, but get some clear air?

What do you have to lose?

Just to clarify, my question was why the second boat into the start box doesn’t just go the other side then run straight for the line. That would put you on a different course unless the other boat tacked.

[antipodean]

@crucial said in Americas Cup:

@voodoo said in Americas Cup:

So the start wins the race 100% of the time cos dirty air, yeah?

So going back to someone's (@Crucial maybe?) question a while back, why not just split if you lose the start? Give up 100m off the bat, but get some clear air?

What do you have to lose?

Just to clarify, my question was why the second boat into the start box doesn’t just go the other side then run straight for the line. That would put you on a different course unless the other boat tacked.

Because the other boat then needs to just place itself in a position where you have to give way.

[Crucial]

@antipodean said in Americas Cup:

@crucial said in Americas Cup:

@voodoo said in Americas Cup:

So the start wins the race 100% of the time cos dirty air, yeah?

So going back to someone's (@Crucial maybe?) question a while back, why not just split if you lose the start? Give up 100m off the bat, but get some clear air?

What do you have to lose?

Just to clarify, my question was why the second boat into the start box doesn’t just go the other side then run straight for the line. That would put you on a different course unless the other boat tacked.

Because the other boat then needs to just place itself in a position where you have to give way.

Go behind them at speed

[antipodean]

@crucial said in Americas Cup:

@antipodean said in Americas Cup:

@crucial said in Americas Cup:

@voodoo said in Americas Cup:

So the start wins the race 100% of the time cos dirty air, yeah?

So going back to someone's (@Crucial maybe?) question a while back, why not just split if you lose the start? Give up 100m off the bat, but get some clear air?

What do you have to lose?

Just to clarify, my question was why the second boat into the start box doesn’t just go the other side then run straight for the line. That would put you on a different course unless the other boat tacked.

Because the other boat then needs to just place itself in a position where you have to give way.

Go behind them at speed

What speed? You attempt to go right and they go right covering you. Match racing 101.

[voodoo]

@antipodean said in Americas Cup:

@crucial said in Americas Cup:

@antipodean said in Americas Cup:

@crucial said in Americas Cup:

@voodoo said in Americas Cup:

So the start wins the race 100% of the time cos dirty air, yeah?

So going back to someone's (@Crucial maybe?) question a while back, why not just split if you lose the start? Give up 100m off the bat, but get some clear air?

What do you have to lose?

Just to clarify, my question was why the second boat into the start box doesn’t just go the other side then run straight for the line. That would put you on a different course unless the other boat tacked.

Because the other boat then needs to just place itself in a position where you have to give way.

Go behind them at speed

What speed? You attempt to go right and they go right covering you. Match racing 101.

Yeah, but to repeat myself, LR DIDN'T cover yesterday, they punched forward and skipped a couple more tacks. Are we sure they would simply cover all the way from the start, every time?

And even if we are sure, what's the difference? You're being covered both ways!!!

[pakman]

The very light winds seem to throw a wild card into starts in that flat spots are even more important than oppo boat. Sure both sides will think about that overnight so tomorrow’s starts may have some different approaches. (Or not!)