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Hurricanes 2021

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    @canes4life said in Hurricanes 2021:

    @yeetyaah how the hell do the Canes as an organisation think they are going to increase bums on seats with signings like this?

    I'd just like to say what a massive disappointment Avan Lee has been leading the Hurricanes from the top, he's always promised so much but he's fallen well short of the mark over the last four years.

    Since Beaudy left, the only good signing we've had from outside our catchment has been Tyrel Lomax.

    I think a big reason why Julz keeps getting a contract is that his old mate Cory Jane probably keeps putting in the good word during selection meetings. I can't see any other reason you would sign him for another two years.

    Either that or they're scared about Ardie being unhappy and leaving

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    @bobily2 That’s what I’m thinking

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      @bobily2 That’s what I’m thinking

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      @mikey07 Yep. Didn't Ardie also "threaten" to go to the dark side (league), last year? Keeping Jules is probably about not losing Ardie.

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        @mikey07 Yep. Didn't Ardie also "threaten" to go to the dark side (league), last year? Keeping Jules is probably about not losing Ardie.

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        @stargazer threaten is probably a little strong, he was asked in a podcast if he would ever consider playing in the NRL and he said 100%, didn’t mean he would actually ever do it. Then obviously the media got wind of it and then blew it out of proportion.

        Where did this whole Perenara rumour start anyway, it’s probably just another media storm with not much else going on at the moment.

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          @stargazer threaten is probably a little strong, he was asked in a podcast if he would ever consider playing in the NRL and he said 100%, didn’t mean he would actually ever do it. Then obviously the media got wind of it and then blew it out of proportion.

          Where did this whole Perenara rumour start anyway, it’s probably just another media storm with not much else going on at the moment.

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          @canes4life I wouldn't surprise me if this TJP rumour was started by his agent. It's contract negotiation time.

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            @canes4life I wouldn't surprise me if this TJP rumour was started by his agent. It's contract negotiation time.

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            @stargazer said in Hurricanes 2021:

            @canes4life I wouldn't surprise me if this TJP rumour was started by his agent. It's contract negotiation time.

            It's was from Ozzie, from a league reporter. Doesn't mean you're wrong

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              Playing club rugby tomorrow (17/4/2021):

              Wellington
              Alex Fidow - Ories
              Pepesana Patafilo - Tawa
              Vaea Fifita - Wellington

              Hawke's Bay
              Danny Toala - Hastings

              probably also:
              Lolagi Visinia - Clive
              Pouri Rakete-Stones - Napier Pirate

              Manawatu
              Brayden Iose - Kia Toa
              Liam Mitchell - Te Kawau

              I didn't see Selesi Rayasi and Vince Aso on any (Wellington or Auckland) team list, but maybe I've just missed it.

              Not all provinces publish team lists, unfortunately, or they publish them late.

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                I was just checking the Canes result from last year. They lost 2 then won 5 then lost 1. This year it has fallen apart.

                I guess a big part of the decline is the loss of Perenara and JGB. Although the starting HB has done well enough. And maybe luck not being on their side this year.

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                  https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1383842769261654018

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                    https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1383842769261654018

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                    @stargazer great news to start the Monday. Looks like we will have a one two punch of Coles and Aumua for a wee while yet.

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                      @stargazer great news to start the Monday. Looks like we will have a one two punch of Coles and Aumua for a wee while yet.

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                      @canes4life I wonder whether they posted this by accident (scheduled at the wrong time?). The tweet links to an article on the allblacks . com website that isn't "live" yet.

                      Btw, the media were wrong again with their rumours that Coles would retire from rugby, at the end of this year. Unless, he plans to retire from international rugby, it's clear he and NZR think he's still got two seasons in him.

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                        @canes4life I wonder whether they posted this by accident (scheduled at the wrong time?). The tweet links to an article on the allblacks . com website that isn't "live" yet.

                        Btw, the media were wrong again with their rumours that Coles would retire from rugby, at the end of this year. Unless, he plans to retire from international rugby, it's clear he and NZR think he's still got two seasons in him.

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                        @stargazer I think he’s still got a couple years in him, maybe not at international level but most definitely at Super the backup to Aumua. He will be quality coming off the bench in the last 25 mins of every game.

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                          @canes4life I wonder whether they posted this by accident (scheduled at the wrong time?). The tweet links to an article on the allblacks . com website that isn't "live" yet.

                          Btw, the media were wrong again with their rumours that Coles would retire from rugby, at the end of this year. Unless, he plans to retire from international rugby, it's clear he and NZR think he's still got two seasons in him.

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                          @stargazer said in Hurricanes 2021:

                          @canes4life I wonder whether they posted this by accident (scheduled at the wrong time?). The tweet links to an article on the allblacks . com website that isn't "live" yet.

                          Btw, the media were wrong again with their rumours that Coles would retire from rugby, at the end of this year. Unless, he plans to retire from international rugby, it's clear he and NZR think he's still got two seasons in him.

                          The media didn't get it wrong at all, he was openly discussing whether this was the end.

                          "My last year coming up with the Canes. I haven't completely ruled out staying on, but I've just got to appreciate it this year," he said.

                          That's pretty ambiguous, and the media reported itt as"hints at retirement", which it is. Could also be hints at going elsewhere, but was a reasonable supposition.

                          Too me he's on fine form, and I love how athletes are able to keep going longer if they wish

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                            @stargazer I think he’s still got a couple years in him, maybe not at international level but most definitely at Super the backup to Aumua. He will be quality coming off the bench in the last 25 mins of every game.

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                            @canes4life It will be interesting to see how this affects Riccitelli's decisions about where to play in the next few years, and more importantly, a young player like Tyrone Thompson. He may start to look somewhere else now.

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                              And how does this affect the negotiations with TJP? He's 5 years younger than Coles, so unless TJP is asking for an exorbitant salary you couldn't really justify signing Coles and J Savea at their age but not TJP.

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                                @canes4life It will be interesting to see how this affects Riccitelli's decisions about where to play in the next few years, and more importantly, a young player like Tyrone Thompson. He may start to look somewhere else now.

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                                @stargazer Not seeing Thompson and Zarn Sullivan in SRA this year has been so disappointing. Thompson in particular should really consider another franchise. I think he's good enough to be in the Blues 23.

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                                  @stargazer Not seeing Thompson and Zarn Sullivan in SRA this year has been so disappointing. Thompson in particular should really consider another franchise. I think he's good enough to be in the Blues 23.

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                                  @akan004 I think the Blues have plenty of depth with Eklund, Tolai, Vikena and Apisai. They probably need a player like Thompson the least of all franchises other than the Hurricanes.

                                  Highlanders have Dixon, Coltman, Jackson; not sure who's below that.

                                  Chiefs have Harris, Taukei'aho, Slater ...; again, I don't know who would be next in line.

                                  Crusaders have Taylor, McAlister .... and Nathan Vella covering for Makalio. The other Canterbury & Ta$man hookers are definitely not of Thompson's calibre.

                                  So, definitely, not the Blues.

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                                    @canes4life It will be interesting to see how this affects Riccitelli's decisions about where to play in the next few years, and more importantly, a young player like Tyrone Thompson. He may start to look somewhere else now.

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                                    @stargazer yeah Riccitelli might move on but for someone like Tyrone, I think it will be beneficial for him to stay at the Canes to learn off the likes of Coles. We’ve got a habit of turning hookers into All Blacks, plus that one two punch of Aumua and Thompson down the track looks fairly tantalising.

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                                      @stargazer yeah Riccitelli might move on but for someone like Tyrone, I think it will be beneficial for him to stay at the Canes to learn off the likes of Coles. We’ve got a habit of turning hookers into All Blacks, plus that one two punch of Aumua and Thompson down the track looks fairly tantalising.

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                                      @canes4life I agree, but if Riccitelli stays, he'll still be the 5th hooker, because - at this stage - he's also behind O'Reilly.

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                                        @akan004 I think the Blues have plenty of depth with Eklund, Tolai, Vikena and Apisai. They probably need a player like Thompson the least of all franchises other than the Hurricanes.

                                        Highlanders have Dixon, Coltman, Jackson; not sure who's below that.

                                        Chiefs have Harris, Taukei'aho, Slater ...; again, I don't know who would be next in line.

                                        Crusaders have Taylor, McAlister .... and Nathan Vella covering for Makalio. The other Canterbury & Ta$man hookers are definitely not of Thompson's calibre.

                                        So, definitely, not the Blues.

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                                        @stargazer said in Hurricanes 2021:

                                        Chiefs have Harris, Taukei'aho, Slater ...; again, I don't know who would be next in line.

                                        Sekope Lopeti Moli, as he is in the WTG and played for the Development team. I do like the look of both Chiefs U20 hookers as well.

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                                          @canes4life I agree, but if Riccitelli stays, he'll still be the 5th hooker, because - at this stage - he's also behind O'Reilly.

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                                          @stargazer O'Reilly is not mentioned in dispatches so what he is doing fannying around with the team remains a mystery.
                                          https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/squad/current-squad/
                                          https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/hurricanes-2021-squad-announced/

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