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  • nzzpN nzzp

    @kiwimurph blue hair makes me feel old.

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    @nzzp said in Blues 2021:

    @kiwimurph blue hair makes me feel old.

    Then stop doing it?

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      The "blue rinse brigade" used to be a name for old women who didn't like grey and had conservative views then along came the pink rinse lot.

      Some of our players don't seem to know where they stand (on defence as well). We have all seen them play like old women too sadly.

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      • SnowyS Snowy

        The "blue rinse brigade" used to be a name for old women who didn't like grey and had conservative views then along came the pink rinse lot.

        Some of our players don't seem to know where they stand (on defence as well). We have all seen them play like old women too sadly.

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        @snowy that's a reach, even for you.

        The thing I didn't like about the blonde phase was it was so distinctive it got hard to tell players apart on the field! And I'm getting old and my eyesight is going 😛

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        • nzzpN nzzp

          @snowy that's a reach, even for you.

          The thing I didn't like about the blonde phase was it was so distinctive it got hard to tell players apart on the field! And I'm getting old and my eyesight is going 😛

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          @nzzp They don't seem to realise that all having the same "distinctive" hair defeats the purpose somewhat.

          Maybe it is all a team bonding thing and improving the culture...but I still believe that all rugby boots should be black too.

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            Probably bad timing but here is a great article on the 2003 Blues side:

            https://www.the42.ie/blues-super-rugby-2003-5409872-Apr2021/

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              well, damn.

              The last 2 minutes against the Chiefs (and the terrible maul call by the refs), and that brain dead, insipid performance on Friday night defines our season. It's a hard road to the final from here - need to get a point more than the chiefs where we have Crusaders away, Chiefs at home, and htey have Canes at home, and us away. Need to win both our games to have a shot, or rely on a massive Hurricanes upset.

              Feels a very mixed bag for the season. Two steps forward, one step back. Our first few games we played well; the game against the Highlanders at home it felt like we could crack 50 points cantering away. We asked some damn good questions of the Crusaders, but they were good enough to respond, and take the game. Since then, thouhg, both teams have fallen apart in the quality of rugby put out there.

              Overall, I'm still not disappointed. from where we were a couple of years ago, where we couldn't beat NZ sides at home or away, to being legitimate contendors is a big shift. People talk up the team, and we have some good players, but when you looked at the Highlanders lineup there wasn't huge quality. We're still weak at 2/9/10 (but better than we were); props, loosies, Rieko and Caleb the only real standout areas of strength to me.

              I still think we're building to a consistent challenge; decent administration, decent coaching and finally some good talent scouting. I am amused (slightly bitterly) that two of the other 4 starting 9s in SRA were in the Blues mix, and we couldn't get the best out of them.

              This year isn't a writeoff, but it'll take osmething special to get to the final. Roll on Trans Ta$man - but the 2 losses in the last 3 weeks will probably scupper our chances of going depe into that comp as well

              Edit: the good news is our destiny is still in our hands - both on the field, and in the long term performance of the team. All the attributes are in place we just have to start delivering

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              • nzzpN nzzp

                well, damn.

                The last 2 minutes against the Chiefs (and the terrible maul call by the refs), and that brain dead, insipid performance on Friday night defines our season. It's a hard road to the final from here - need to get a point more than the chiefs where we have Crusaders away, Chiefs at home, and htey have Canes at home, and us away. Need to win both our games to have a shot, or rely on a massive Hurricanes upset.

                Feels a very mixed bag for the season. Two steps forward, one step back. Our first few games we played well; the game against the Highlanders at home it felt like we could crack 50 points cantering away. We asked some damn good questions of the Crusaders, but they were good enough to respond, and take the game. Since then, thouhg, both teams have fallen apart in the quality of rugby put out there.

                Overall, I'm still not disappointed. from where we were a couple of years ago, where we couldn't beat NZ sides at home or away, to being legitimate contendors is a big shift. People talk up the team, and we have some good players, but when you looked at the Highlanders lineup there wasn't huge quality. We're still weak at 2/9/10 (but better than we were); props, loosies, Rieko and Caleb the only real standout areas of strength to me.

                I still think we're building to a consistent challenge; decent administration, decent coaching and finally some good talent scouting. I am amused (slightly bitterly) that two of the other 4 starting 9s in SRA were in the Blues mix, and we couldn't get the best out of them.

                This year isn't a writeoff, but it'll take osmething special to get to the final. Roll on Trans Ta$man - but the 2 losses in the last 3 weeks will probably scupper our chances of going depe into that comp as well

                Edit: the good news is our destiny is still in our hands - both on the field, and in the long term performance of the team. All the attributes are in place we just have to start delivering

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                @nzzp There is something there isn't there? It looks like like it but fuck some days it's hard to see. The heart of the 'Landers is just great.

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                  3 weeks for Hodgman.

                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300280746/super-rugby-aotearoa-blues-prop-alex-hodgman-cops-threeweek-suspension

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                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                    3 weeks for Hodgman.

                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300280746/super-rugby-aotearoa-blues-prop-alex-hodgman-cops-threeweek-suspension

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                    @taniwharugby Entirely predictable, but to me, it doesn't seem enough.

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                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                      3 weeks for Hodgman.

                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300280746/super-rugby-aotearoa-blues-prop-alex-hodgman-cops-threeweek-suspension

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                      @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

                      3 weeks for Hodgman.

                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300280746/super-rugby-aotearoa-blues-prop-alex-hodgman-cops-threeweek-suspension

                      Lucky just to get three...

                      That was nasty

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                      • M Mackerzzzz

                        @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

                        3 weeks for Hodgman.

                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300280746/super-rugby-aotearoa-blues-prop-alex-hodgman-cops-threeweek-suspension

                        Lucky just to get three...

                        That was nasty

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                        #678

                        @mackerzzzz it wasnt pretty, and while I am sure he didnt intend to do what he did, it was an incredibly dangerous action.

                        I think @Stargazer mentioned in the game thread he expected 6 weeks but reduced to 3.

                        Hodgman entered a guilty plea and was ruled out of all forms of rugby for three weeks, up to and including May 8 which is the date of the final. Should the Blues not make the playoff, the judiciary reserved its right to revisit the suspension.

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                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

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                          @kiwimurph said in Blues 2021:

                          No disrespect but if I wore that hair colour people would call me Toilet Duck.

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                            • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                              @kiwimurph said in Blues 2021:

                              No disrespect but if I wore that hair colour people would call me Toilet Duck.

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                              @nostrildamus pato

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                                https://www.facebook.com/35306676317/posts/10159876377321318/

                                George Dyer - After training with The Blues pre-season, Dyer has been called in this week as replacement cover for the The Blues for the next month.

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                                • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                                  https://www.facebook.com/35306676317/posts/10159876377321318/

                                  George Dyer - After training with The Blues pre-season, Dyer has been called in this week as replacement cover for the The Blues for the next month.

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                                  @yeetyaah So that's a replacement for Hodgman?

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                                    Dyer is more of a TH but I think he played LH in club rugby last weekend.

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                                      #685

                                      Time to flush this series and move on to the trans- Ta$man games.

                                      The obvious problems has been a lack of accuracy, and low on variation, forward based attack that is predictable and fails to use the backs or give them space off quick phase ball or set-piece. Halangahu needs to justify his position here. This all too much like his forward dominated North Harbour game plans. Support lines need some changes. Too often break outs have no supporting runners, with players staying on their wing. I can't believe they don't use Clarke on an inside ball off the scrum.

                                      As far as individual selections go, lets start with the backs.

                                      Ruru is okay coming off the bench but his error rate is pretty high, and more importantly he is often slow to clear the ruck, can be slow getting to the ruck off breaks, and his support play isn't good enough. He also produces a couple of poor box kicks per game. It's time to stick with Nock or Christie as starter.

                                      Black has a decent kicking game and is a skilful player, but not much of a threat running at the line. If he plays they need to use strong carriers running off him, and have an aggressive kick chase. If Barrett is available he starts at 10.

                                      At 12 use Faiane but give Tele'a some time.

                                      Need more variation in how wings are used and selections. Narawa etc deserve a chance.

                                      Perofeta looks pretty stale at 15, a position where there should at least have been some rotation. Sullivan and Kneepkens deserve a chance. Barrett can play there, with Black at 10, if they want to play a kicking game plan.

                                      In the forwards I'd like to see the loose forward mix freshened up, with the possibility of a link player selected. Papalii is quite good there, as is Robinson, and Akira at 8 can offer more than Sotutu in that regard. Maybe Choat a 7 and Papalii at 6. Pity that Hunt can't be tried in that role.

                                      First choice XXIII for TT games:

                                      15 Pick on form, would like to see Sullivan get first go
                                      14 Narawa/Telea
                                      13 Ioane
                                      12 Faiane
                                      11 Clarke
                                      10 Barrett
                                      9 Nock

                                      8 Ioane
                                      7 Papalii
                                      6 Robinson/Choat
                                      5 GCT/Pierce
                                      4 Tuipulotu
                                      3 Laulala/OfaT
                                      2 Eklund
                                      1 Hodgman/KarlT

                                      23 Tele'a/Sullivan
                                      22 Black/Tele'a
                                      21 Christie
                                      20 Sotutu
                                      19 Pierce/GCT/Darry
                                      18 OfaT/Laulala
                                      17 KarlT/Hodgman
                                      16 Tolai

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                                      • TimT Tim

                                        Time to flush this series and move on to the trans- Ta$man games.

                                        The obvious problems has been a lack of accuracy, and low on variation, forward based attack that is predictable and fails to use the backs or give them space off quick phase ball or set-piece. Halangahu needs to justify his position here. This all too much like his forward dominated North Harbour game plans. Support lines need some changes. Too often break outs have no supporting runners, with players staying on their wing. I can't believe they don't use Clarke on an inside ball off the scrum.

                                        As far as individual selections go, lets start with the backs.

                                        Ruru is okay coming off the bench but his error rate is pretty high, and more importantly he is often slow to clear the ruck, can be slow getting to the ruck off breaks, and his support play isn't good enough. He also produces a couple of poor box kicks per game. It's time to stick with Nock or Christie as starter.

                                        Black has a decent kicking game and is a skilful player, but not much of a threat running at the line. If he plays they need to use strong carriers running off him, and have an aggressive kick chase. If Barrett is available he starts at 10.

                                        At 12 use Faiane but give Tele'a some time.

                                        Need more variation in how wings are used and selections. Narawa etc deserve a chance.

                                        Perofeta looks pretty stale at 15, a position where there should at least have been some rotation. Sullivan and Kneepkens deserve a chance. Barrett can play there, with Black at 10, if they want to play a kicking game plan.

                                        In the forwards I'd like to see the loose forward mix freshened up, with the possibility of a link player selected. Papalii is quite good there, as is Robinson, and Akira at 8 can offer more than Sotutu in that regard. Maybe Choat a 7 and Papalii at 6. Pity that Hunt can't be tried in that role.

                                        First choice XXIII for TT games:

                                        15 Pick on form, would like to see Sullivan get first go
                                        14 Narawa/Telea
                                        13 Ioane
                                        12 Faiane
                                        11 Clarke
                                        10 Barrett
                                        9 Nock

                                        8 Ioane
                                        7 Papalii
                                        6 Robinson/Choat
                                        5 GCT/Pierce
                                        4 Tuipulotu
                                        3 Laulala/OfaT
                                        2 Eklund
                                        1 Hodgman/KarlT

                                        23 Tele'a/Sullivan
                                        22 Black/Tele'a
                                        21 Christie
                                        20 Sotutu
                                        19 Pierce/GCT/Darry
                                        18 OfaT/Laulala
                                        17 KarlT/Hodgman
                                        16 Tolai

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                                        @tim Won't be Barrett, he will be in the final of the Japan League (his team is undefeated in the round robin), then even if he leaves the day after - 2 weeks quarantine, means he'll be available for the last game only

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                                          I had thought Leon might be holding some stuff back but seeing his face at the end of the game maybe not.

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