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EPL 2020/2021

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    I get the feeling the gulf owned sportswashing clubs are way less keen than the American owned clubs plus Barca, Real and Juve.

    One group in it for profit , other group in for the good PR and ignore the costs.

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    • RapidoR Rapido

      This is interesting.

      Spurs and Arsenal still owe the Bank of England (and thus the taxpayer), a combined £295m through the Covid Corporate Financing Facility (CCFF). One of the terms of this is that they ‘make a material UK contribution”.

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      @rapido said in EPL 2020/2021:

      This is interesting.

      Spurs and Arsenal still owe the Bank of England (and thus the taxpayer), a combined £295m through the Covid Corporate Financing Facility (CCFF). One of the terms of this is that they ‘make a material UK contribution”.

      The argument will be that they won't stop making a material contribution. Remember, this is setup to run alongside. Any rulings which cut them out of EPL would not be Arsenal's (direct) decision.

      The real crux will be this vs Champions League.

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      • RapidoR Rapido

        I get the feeling the gulf owned sportswashing clubs are way less keen than the American owned clubs plus Barca, Real and Juve.

        One group in it for profit , other group in for the good PR and ignore the costs.

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        @rapido said in EPL 2020/2021:

        I get the feeling the gulf owned sportswashing clubs are way less keen than the American owned clubs plus Barca, Real and Juve.

        The rumours are that Man City and Chelsea weren't that keen but joined because of the fear of missing out.

        One group in it for profit , other group in for the good PR and ignore the costs.

        A quote by Arsène Wenger in 2018:

        “Owners of football clubs aren’t owners anymore.. they’re investors.”

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          So got hold of an Italian (Juventus supporter). Initially skeptical but now supports the new league. Apparently the profit sharing in the Italian league is shit and this means more money for the “good” teams.

          So yeah, we (understandably)appear to be getting a rather Anglo view of things. This thing most certainly is not DOA. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

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            It's definitely happening in some form, I don't think this is a bluff or bargaining tactic. Good luck kicking out the teams from their respective leagues and the players from the world cup. Would be the definition of cutting off the nose to spite the face.

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              @junior said in EPL 2020/2021:

              I'm not surprised that a PSG fan would want to join - the French Ligue 1 is cake walk for them and the only thing they have to play for each year is the Champions League. I imagine PSG is waiting to see if they can win the CL this year and, once that box has been ticked, then jump ship to the ESL.

              The same PSG whose currently second in Ligue 1 with 2 other clubs within 2 points?

              They are the biggest club, undoubtedly, but I wouldn't say it's a cake walk.

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              @majorrage said in EPL 2020/2021:

              @junior said in EPL 2020/2021:

              I'm not surprised that a PSG fan would want to join - the French Ligue 1 is cake walk for them and the only thing they have to play for each year is the Champions League. I imagine PSG is waiting to see if they can win the CL this year and, once that box has been ticked, then jump ship to the ESL.

              The same PSG whose currently second in Ligue 1 with 2 other clubs within 2 points?

              They are the biggest club, undoubtedly, but I wouldn't say it's a cake walk.

              I think this is the key point; you can stay in the league regardless of results. My friend today was talking about being able to play the other premier clubs (and he wasn't talking about Lyon).

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                The whole thing is about control. UEFA are worried they are about to lose control, and the 12 teams want to take greater control of their own financial destiny

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                • RapidoR Rapido

                  I get the feeling the gulf owned sportswashing clubs are way less keen than the American owned clubs plus Barca, Real and Juve.

                  One group in it for profit , other group in for the good PR and ignore the costs.

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                  @rapido said in EPL 2020/2021:

                  I get the feeling the gulf owned sportswashing clubs are way less keen than the American owned clubs plus Barca, Real and Juve.

                  One group in it for profit , other group in for the good PR and ignore the costs.

                  They are also very much in it for prestige - much more than the "sports washing" in my view. Without Man United, Liverpool etc in the EPL and Real Madrid, Barcelona etc in the CL, how much prestige will a Man City get out of playing in those competitions

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                  • MajorPomM Offline
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                    Chelsea withdrawing ....

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                    • MajorPomM MajorPom

                      Chelsea withdrawing ....

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                      @majorrage
                      Maybe I'm wrong. A few more PL sides withdraw then this will be over.

                      City gooone too.

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                        @majorrage
                        Maybe I'm wrong. A few more PL sides withdraw then this will be over.

                        City gooone too.

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                        @mofitzy_ said in EPL 2020/2021:

                        @majorrage
                        Maybe I'm wrong. A few more PL sides withdraw then this will be over.

                        City gooone too.

                        Woodward gone from Man U.

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                          Talk about news happening in real time! Hard to keep up ....

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                            Atletico Madrid too.

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                              What a shambles. The whole fiasco remains me of the failed coup against Gorbachev in August 1991, although that made it through three and half days before collapsing.

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                                From Jordan Henderson (and others)

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                                  So there were six English breakaway clubs. 13 EPL clubs have issued a statement condemning their move.

                                  Who is / was sitting on the fence?

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                                    Dead in the water. What a huge cock up.

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                                      Amazing to me that with so much money behind it, it could still be executed so poorly.

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                                        This demonstrates the arrogance of the US owners, and the likes of Perez and Agnelli.

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                                          this is crazy, had they done no research into how their fans might react, are they honestly that arrogant?

                                          all theyve ended up doing is taint their brand a little

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