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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote"><strong>Gary Gold cops a $A15,000 fine for having a go at the TMO in Durban − fair cop or have Sanzaar once again missed an, er, golden chance to send a message about coaches crossing lines and the sanctity of match officials?</strong></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">HAMISH BIDWELL: Look, I really don't care. I can muster a degree of interest, in the sense that I love the message it sends. Governing bodies in many sports huff and puff about how highly they regard referees and umpires and how the rest of us must do the same. Problem here is their actions haven't supported that talk. On a broader level I personally can't stand officials. I'm sick of seeing them and hearing them and it galls me that people can't bag them freely. <strong>Yeah, I could care less about what Gold's done.</strong></blockquote>
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<div>Idiot opinion. Idiot language.</div>
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<p>What's new in Hamilton?<br><br><br><br><a class="bbc_url" href="http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11619161">http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11619161</a></p>
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<p>the only question here is, is she hot?</p>
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<p>And why did he complain, did she use too much teeth? ignored the balls? too much butt touching?</p> -
<p>knew you'd go there!</p>
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<p>it'd probably be more likely that the issue was about this</p>
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<p>she had thrush?</p>
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<p>its a swallow...but that would be reason for a complaint</p>
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<p>not if you are still talking about this....</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MajorRage" data-cid="570560" data-time="1460082801"><p><a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11619105">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11619105</a><br><br>
This is interesting. Airlines have strict ID rules/regulations for a reason.<br><br>
So how does this for the trans community?</p></blockquote>
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<p>That's a bit odd...I didn't know you were allowed to fly without any ID whatsoever. It seems to say you can't in the article, this person had no ID...I'm not sure where the issue is and what it had to do with being transgender?</p>
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<p>the only question here is, <strong>is she hot</strong>?</p>
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<p>And why did he complain, did she use too much teeth? ignored the balls? too much butt touching?</p>
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<p>Do you mean "Hamilton hot" or actually hot, there is a difference.</p>
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<p>She's got a Mooloo jersey tied round her "waist" to hide the size of her arse, but its a large jersey, not an XL?</p>
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<p>She's got a Mooloo jersey tied round her "waist" to hide the size of her arse, but its a large jersey, not an XL?</p>
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<p><strong>And she has teeth</strong>.</p>
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<p>Most of them anyway.</p>
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<p>Yes, played the transgender angle because the person checking in said details didn't match up.</p>
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<p>I just find this grey area interesting, none more so than in North Carolina.</p>
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<p>That is just a beat up. Paypal has stopped construction of its new facilities in North Carolina in protest about people being forced to use the toilets of the gender on their birth certificate. .... yet still do active business in 25 countries with the death penalty for homosexuality...</p> -
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<p>That is just a beat up. Paypal has stopped construction of its new facilities in North Carolina in protest about people being forced to use the toilets of the gender on their birth certificate. .... yet still do active business in 25 countries with the death penalty for homosexuality...</p>
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<p>I sort of feel OK with that. They can directly influence US policy, the US is their "home" territory, and by protesting it they have a real chance to change the law & do zero damage to their shareholders.</p>
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<p>If they were to pull their business from Saudi as a protest it'd do what? Nothing bar cut their shareholder return.</p>
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<p>Companies - and people, should be picking the fights they can win & make a difference in. All the major hollywood studios just did exactly this in Georgia over anti-gay legistation, yet they'll still shoot in Tunisia or Morocco. And they are now aiming at NC</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/03/georgia-anti-gay-boycott-veto'>http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/03/georgia-anti-gay-boycott-veto</a></p>
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<p>If you wanted western companies to stop doing business with any country that didn't meet our standards the world would stop. Ditto the idea they can't hold their own government - who they directly fund with taxes to account, is stupid</p>
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<p>And most of all Paypal has sex equality rules built into its corporate culture & staff contacts, so asking staff to work in a state that violates that is an issue. You can't say "we are gay friendly so long as you stay in California". They don't have offices in Kuwait.</p> -
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<p>If they were to pull their business from Saudi as a protest it'd do what? Nothing bar cut their shareholder return.</p>
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<p>Companies - and people, should be picking the fights they can win & make a difference in. All the major hollywood studios just did exactly this in Georgia over anti-gay legistation, yet they'll still shoot in Tunisia or Morocco. And they are now aiming at NC</p>
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<p>If you wanted western companies to stop doing business with any country that didn't meet our standards the world would stop. Ditto the idea they can't hold their own government - who they directly fund with taxes to account, is stupid</p>
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<p>And most of all Paypal has sex equality rules built into its corporate culture & staff contacts, so asking staff to work in a state that violates that is an issue. You can't say "we are gay friendly so long as you stay in California". They don't have offices in Kuwait.</p>
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<p>I have a problem with it as if you follow your line of reason to its logical conclusion. Then businesses should not do anything to damage shareholders profits. And I think that there is strong support for North Carolina's move amongst more conservative voters.</p>
<p>If Paypal are concerned about shareholders, they would not be taking a stance like this. It seems like Paypal are saying .. we take a moral stand unless it effects profits.....</p>
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<p>And one point to note, how is it anti gay legislation? Is it not it more anti transgender/transsexual? i.e for public toilets you have to use the gender on your birth certificate? Also I assume you meant sexuality equality? But even so my understanding is that none of the proposed laws actually broke Paypals rules?</p>
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<p>Regardless I think Paypal coming out looking like hypocrites. Do they care about equality.. up until it severely effects profits?</p>
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<p>Just a constant amazement to me how so called gay friendly companies do absolutely nothing to push gay freedoms (from death) in foriegn countries... why? because it is to expensive? </p>
<p>And I am fully aware that I am contradictng myself in some regards. But it shows how dangerous it is for companies to make decisions based on morals.. from only one side of the spectrum.</p>
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<p>If Paypal are concerned about shareholders, they would not be taking a stance like this. It seems like Paypal are saying .. we take a moral stand unless it effects profits.....</p>
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<p>I think they shouldn't take <strong><em>a pointless</em></strong> moral stance if it damages their shareholders. Also it dependeds on how many stakeholders it affects.</p>
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<p>So a law in the US that will affect their US employees & that they have a genuine shot at changing, they can balance that duty to employees & the chance of success against any negatives. In contrast they campaign against Saudi law, they have no employees there, and their chance of doing anything is zero. So its literally destroying shareholder value to have a PR wank.</p>
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<p>Just a constant amazement to me how so called gay friendly companies do absolutely nothing to push gay freedoms (from death) in foriegn countries... why? because it is to expensive?</p>
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<p>I get your point and yes, I think its because of that. But also because its pointless. If Paypal pulled out of all the "bad" places Ali-Pay would just become the worlds no. 1 payment system & those places would continue being bad. They'd change mnothing.</p>
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Is this really in the best interests of PayPal's shareholders? Trannies being allowed to use the female dunnies might be huge on Twitter and close to the heart of Bruce Springsteen but I question whether the vast majority of the US gives a shit.
