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SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs

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  • A Anonymous

    @antipodean said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

    @gt12 said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

    @anonymous said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

    @damo said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

    @arhs said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

    How is it offside if ball goes back? These referrals are an absolute farce

    That's irrelevant.

    If you are in front of the last team mate to play the ball you are offside until put onside.

    Does retreating to the point they last touched the ball not count as putting yourself onside?

    That’s my understanding too, as if the ball was touched by someone and went backwards you’d have to go behind that point to then pick it up, therefore youre not offside?

    No. The laws make it clear you have to be put onside:

    Other than under Law 10.4c, an offside player can be put onside when:
    
    An onside team-mate of that player moves past the offside player and is within or has re-entered the playing area
    
    An opponent of that player:
    * Carries the ball five metres; or
    * Passes the ball; or
    * Kicks the ball; or*
    

    Law 10.4c refers to kicks. So you have to be put onside by an onside team mate or an action of the opposing team.

    That's referring to how players can be put onside (by other players), not how they can put themselves onside.

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    antipodean
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    @anonymous said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

    @antipodean said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

    @gt12 said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

    @anonymous said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

    @damo said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

    @arhs said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

    How is it offside if ball goes back? These referrals are an absolute farce

    That's irrelevant.

    If you are in front of the last team mate to play the ball you are offside until put onside.

    Does retreating to the point they last touched the ball not count as putting yourself onside?

    That’s my understanding too, as if the ball was touched by someone and went backwards you’d have to go behind that point to then pick it up, therefore youre not offside?

    No. The laws make it clear you have to be put onside:

    Other than under Law 10.4c, an offside player can be put onside when:
    
    An onside team-mate of that player moves past the offside player and is within or has re-entered the playing area
    
    An opponent of that player:
    * Carries the ball five metres; or
    * Passes the ball; or
    * Kicks the ball; or*
    

    Law 10.4c refers to kicks. So you have to be put onside by an onside team mate or an action of the opposing team.

    That's referring to how players can be put onside (by other players), not how they can put themselves onside.

    Quote where the law says you can put yourself onside.

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    • antipodeanA antipodean

      @chris said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

      @antipodean said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

      @chris said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

      @antipodean said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

      @nepia said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

      You have to go past it

      That's not correct. The law doesn't say that.

      You can only be off side if the ball goes forward the TMO ruled it went backwards so he is not offside.

      Wrong. I've already quoted the law.

      So you can be offside picking up a ball that went backwards.
      Is that an Australian Law

      World Rugby https://www.world.rugby/the-game/laws/law/10

      Let me make this perfectly clear - you have to be put onside in that circumstance. Running past an imaginary line where the ball was is not being put onside.

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      Chris
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      #238

      @antipodean said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

      @chris said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

      @antipodean said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

      @chris said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

      @antipodean said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

      @nepia said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

      You have to go past it

      That's not correct. The law doesn't say that.

      You can only be off side if the ball goes forward the TMO ruled it went backwards so he is not offside.

      Wrong. I've already quoted the law.

      So you can be offside picking up a ball that went backwards.
      Is that an Australian Law

      World Rugby https://www.world.rugby/the-game/laws/law/10

      Let me make this perfectly clear - you have to be put onside in that circumstance. Running past an imaginary line where the ball was in not being put onside.

      FUuuuuuck I fucken hate it when you are fuckenbright

      @antipodean said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

      @chris said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

      @antipodean said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

      @chris said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

      @antipodean said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

      @nepia said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

      You have to go past it

      That's not correct. The law doesn't say that.

      You can only be off side if the ball goes forward the TMO ruled it went backwards so he is not offside.

      Wrong. I've already quoted the law.

      So you can be offside picking up a ball that went backwards.
      Is that an Australian Law

      World Rugby https://www.world.rugby/the-game/laws/law/10

      Let me make this perfectly clear - you have to be put onside in that circumstance. Running past an imaginary line where the ball was is not being put onside.

      Fuuuuck I hate it when you are fucken right

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        KiwiMurph
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        #239

        Much better from zarn

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        • KiwiMurphK Offline
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          KiwiMurph
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          #240

          These referrals need to be binned

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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            These referrals need to be binned

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            @kiwimurph said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

            These referrals need to be binned

            Got the right decision earlier.

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              These referrals need to be binned

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              Victor Meldrew
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              @kiwimurph said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

              These referrals need to be binned

              Nah. Gives me time to make coffee for me, the missus and her sister...

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              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                These referrals need to be binned

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                Bones
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                @kiwimurph said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                These referrals need to be binned

                That's another really dumb one. What made him think that was a good idea?

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                • H hydro11

                  @kiwimurph said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                  These referrals need to be binned

                  Got the right decision earlier.

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                  #244

                  @hydro11 said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                  @kiwimurph said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                  These referrals need to be binned

                  Got the right decision earlier.

                  Only if they ruled that the ball went forward, which is what the Captain’s challenge was for.

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                  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                    @kiwimurph said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                    These referrals need to be binned

                    Nah. Gives me time to make coffee for me, the missus and her sister...

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                    Bones
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                    #245

                    @victor-meldrew said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                    @kiwimurph said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                    These referrals need to be binned

                    Nah. Gives me time to make coffee for me, the missus and her sister...

                    Glad you had a good Friday night.

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                      Yeetyaah
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                      #246

                      Too many weet bix for Otere

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                        Machpants
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                        #247

                        "Oh another one! Blues have said that they scored but the ref says that they were short.

                        I assume that now the TMO will say that the try was not scored but that last Tuesday one of the Chiefs players crossed a road without waiting for the lights so it’ll be a penalty try and red card"

                        An Ozzie view

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                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                          Much better from zarn

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                          Bones
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                          @kiwimurph said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                          Much better from zarn

                          Would've liked Ioane to give him a one on one earlier.

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                          • ChrisC Offline
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                            #249

                            Black geez

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                              Canes4life
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                              What was that Black.

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                              • BonesB Bones

                                @kiwimurph said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                                Much better from zarn

                                Would've liked Ioane to give him a one on one earlier.

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                                KiwiMurph
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                                #251

                                @bones said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                                @kiwimurph said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                                Much better from zarn

                                Would've liked Ioane to give him a one on one earlier.

                                Rieko still has the winger mindset of going himself every time

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                                • gt12G gt12

                                  @hydro11 said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                                  @kiwimurph said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                                  These referrals need to be binned

                                  Got the right decision earlier.

                                  Only if they ruled that the ball went forward, which is what the Captain’s challenge was for.

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                                  taniwharugby
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                                  #252

                                  @gt12 it did go forward , just the 1980s pixilated screen the tmo uses its tough to see

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                                  • M Machpants

                                    "Oh another one! Blues have said that they scored but the ref says that they were short.

                                    I assume that now the TMO will say that the try was not scored but that last Tuesday one of the Chiefs players crossed a road without waiting for the lights so it’ll be a penalty try and red card"

                                    An Ozzie view

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                                    Bones
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                                    #253

                                    @machpants said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                                    "Oh another one! Blues have said that they scored but the ref says that they were short.

                                    I assume that now the TMO will say that the try was not scored but that last Tuesday one of the Chiefs players crossed a road without waiting for the lights so it’ll be a penalty try and red card"

                                    An Ozzie view

                                    Show me the law where it's a red card for jaywalking.

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                                      KiwiMurph
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                                      #254

                                      Blues are absolutely punishing to watch.

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                                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                        @gt12 it did go forward , just the 1980s pixilated screen the tmo uses its tough to see

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                                        @taniwharugby said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                                        @gt12 it did go forward , just the 1980s pixilated screen the tmo uses its tough to see

                                        I know it did too, but my understanding is that was not the ruling.

                                        If so, why uphold the challenge?

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                                        • gt12G gt12

                                          @hydro11 said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                                          @kiwimurph said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                                          These referrals need to be binned

                                          Got the right decision earlier.

                                          Only if they ruled that the ball went forward, which is what the Captain’s challenge was for.

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                                          antipodean
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                                          @gt12 said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                                          @hydro11 said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                                          @kiwimurph said in SRA Round 10: Blues v Chiefs:

                                          These referrals need to be binned

                                          Got the right decision earlier.

                                          Only if they ruled that the ball went forward, which is what the Captain’s challenge is for.

                                          I can't see much benefit from them. Even if you have clear rules about these referrals where you have to be specific about what you're drawing to the referee's attention so that anything else can't be judged in retrospect. But even then people will get up in arms about a clear transgression not ruled on.

                                          It's a no win situation.

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