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@no-quarter this is why I find it so interesting. It’s seems the feelings of 1-2% of are greater than the safety of 50%.
Since when did physical health pale in comparison to mental.
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@bones said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
@majorrage said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
trans kids
Huh?
Not my quote bro!
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@majorrage said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
@no-quarter this is why I find it so interesting. It’s seems the feelings of 1-2% of are greater than the safety of 50%.
Since when did physical health pale in comparison to mental.
No one's ever died of physical injuries, duh!
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@majorrage said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
@no-quarter this is why I find it so interesting. It’s seems the feelings of 1-2% of are greater than the safety of 50%.
Since when did physical health pale in comparison to mental.
It can't be that high a number.
Just ask yourself how many people do you know, and how many are even gay, let alone how many are trans.
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@booboo said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
@majorrage said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
@no-quarter this is why I find it so interesting. It’s seems the feelings of 1-2% of are greater than the safety of 50%.
Since when did physical health pale in comparison to mental.
It can't be that high a number.
Just ask yourself how many people do you know, and how many are even gay, let alone how many are trans.
Not sure that reasoning quite stands up. Go ask that gay/trans person you know and ask them what the percentage of gay/trans people they know is.
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@bones said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
@booboo said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
@majorrage said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
@no-quarter this is why I find it so interesting. It’s seems the feelings of 1-2% of are greater than the safety of 50%.
Since when did physical health pale in comparison to mental.
It can't be that high a number.
Just ask yourself how many people do you know, and how many are even gay, let alone how many are trans.
Not sure that reasoning quite stands up. Go ask that gay/trans person you know and ask them what the percentage of gay/trans people they know is.
I know there is a yawning gap in the logic. But how many can identify one trans person in the many thousands that you are acquainted with?
If you have kids (Not sure you have yet @Bones ) how many kids have they had interactions with, and how many of those kids are going through dysphoria?
At one in 50 of the population it should be much more visible, even if your usual interactions are not ed likely to be biased towards a similarity with yourself.
Amongst kids, especially in this day and age, where it's less likely that "different" kids are lmarginalised nowadays, I look around Me Boo Jr's peer group and am unaware of any suffering dysohoria.
Again, you'd have to balance for the skewing caused by demographics of the parents, and our conservative white middle class professional expectations, and subsequent social cobstructs imposed upon our children...
Just don't see how the number can be so high.
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@bones said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
@booboo well I'm probably not a good person to discuss with then, as I used to work for Welly city. My boss left as Steve one day and came back as Stephanie, put it that way.
Maybe you're a good person to discuss with?
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@booboo said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
@bones said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
@booboo well I'm probably not a good person to discuss with then, as I used to work for Welly city. My boss left as Steve one day and came back as Stephanie, put it that way.
Maybe you're a good person to discuss with?
Careful, I'm a wordsmith
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And Katlyn Jenner (formerly Bruce) has come out against trans athletes competing in women’s sports. Will be interesting to see how they try and accuse an actual trans person of being transphobic.
I do find it utterly ridiculous that people claim that this is some kind of life and death issue. If not being able to unfairly compete in a certain sport will drive you to suicide (something I believe to be complete crap) then maybe that’s the problem that needs to be addressed not everyone else having to conform to this idiocy.
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@bones said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
@booboo said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
@bones said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
@booboo well I'm probably not a good person to discuss with then, as I used to work for Welly city. My boss left as Steve one day and came back as Stephanie, put it that way.
Maybe you're a good person to discuss with?
Careful, I'm a wordsmith
Sorry, you have wooshed me again.
My point being, without any irony, that your interactions with trans people are infinitely greater than mine, i.e., mine are zero, and yours are at least one, and sounds like you may have further experience, and therefore, you'd be a better person to discuss the number of people in society suffering from dysphoria, as in my experience and observation it seems extremely rare.
I admit my upbringing, career and social circle is likely to influence who I interact with.
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@booboo said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
@bones said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
@booboo said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
@bones said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
@booboo well I'm probably not a good person to discuss with then, as I used to work for Welly city. My boss left as Steve one day and came back as Stephanie, put it that way.
Maybe you're a good person to discuss with?
Careful, I'm a wordsmith
I admit my upbringing, career and social circle is likely to influence who I interact with.
The irony of writing that on the Fern!
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@booboo said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
@bones said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
@booboo said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
@bones said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
@booboo well I'm probably not a good person to discuss with then, as I used to work for Welly city. My boss left as Steve one day and came back as Stephanie, put it that way.
Maybe you're a good person to discuss with?
Careful, I'm a wordsmith
Sorry, you have wooshed me again.
My point being, without any irony, that your interactions with trans people are infinitely greater than mine, i.e., mine are zero, and yours are at least one, and sounds like you may have further experience, and therefore, you'd be a better person to discuss the number of people in society suffering from dysphoria, as in my experience and observation it seems extremely rare.
I admit my upbringing, career and social circle is likely to influence who I interact with.
Actual gender dysphoria is extremely rare. What is becoming more common is kids being told that if they don't adhere to very strict gender stereotypes they must be trans. Which is just an absolutely despicable thing to be telling a child.
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@no-quarter said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
@booboo said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
@bones said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
@booboo said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
@bones said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
@booboo well I'm probably not a good person to discuss with then, as I used to work for Welly city. My boss left as Steve one day and came back as Stephanie, put it that way.
Maybe you're a good person to discuss with?
Careful, I'm a wordsmith
Sorry, you have wooshed me again.
My point being, without any irony, that your interactions with trans people are infinitely greater than mine, i.e., mine are zero, and yours are at least one, and sounds like you may have further experience, and therefore, you'd be a better person to discuss the number of people in society suffering from dysphoria, as in my experience and observation it seems extremely rare.
I admit my upbringing, career and social circle is likely to influence who I interact with.
Actual gender dysphoria is extremely rare. What is becoming more common is kids being told that if they don't adhere to very strict gender stereotypes they must be trans. Which is just an absolutely despicable thing to be telling a child.
That is beyond fucked. I genuinely feel bad for having brought two human beings into a world where that goes on.
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@no-quarter said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
@booboo said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
@bones said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
@booboo said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
@bones said in Trans debate hits World Rugby:
@booboo well I'm probably not a good person to discuss with then, as I used to work for Welly city. My boss left as Steve one day and came back as Stephanie, put it that way.
Maybe you're a good person to discuss with?
Careful, I'm a wordsmith
Sorry, you have wooshed me again.
My point being, without any irony, that your interactions with trans people are infinitely greater than mine, i.e., mine are zero, and yours are at least one, and sounds like you may have further experience, and therefore, you'd be a better person to discuss the number of people in society suffering from dysphoria, as in my experience and observation it seems extremely rare.
I admit my upbringing, career and social circle is likely to influence who I interact with.
Actual gender dysphoria is extremely rare. What is becoming more common is kids being told that if they don't adhere to very strict gender stereotypes they must be trans. Which is just an absolutely despicable thing to be telling a child.
I would have thought. And I started by questioning the 1-2% mentioned in an earlier post. That's as common as 1 in every 50 people.
Unless, which I think I may have done, I completely misunderstood @MajorRage, and he was suggesting that 1-2% get upset by people opposing trans dogma rather than 1-2% being trans. (Oops)
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@booboo I know one! Just the one though. A wife and 2 kids before he (she?) realised he (she?) wanted to be a she. Lost 20kgs, now walks and talks completely differently both in mannerism and subject matter.
Pretty tough process for the wife and kids (which is not meant to imply that he/she shouldn't have transitioned, just saying it was hard for all)
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Transgender debate, in sport, in general
