Blues 2021
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@gt12 said in Blues 2021:
The non-selection/ lack of trust in Faiane is one that puzzled me the most (actually, maybe Gibson at 6 is stranger).
Faiane is/was the glue player in that back line and allows Rieko to be more comfortable, so I dont see why he is out of favor.
My reading was that for some reason they decided that switching things up to Plummer at 10 was the key to playing the Saders. Much like Chiefs changed and used DMac at 10 so that the pre-game analysis was disrupted.
From that point they decided to change the 12 because of who Plummer had a better understanding with. -
@crucial the weird thing is Plummer has played a heap of rugby with Faiane at 12 in the Mitre 10 Cup the last 3 seasons.
@kiwimurph said in Blues 2021:
@crucial the weird thing is Plummer has played a heap of rugby with Faiane at 12 in the Mitre 10 Cup the last 3 seasons.
Ha, yeah. I was just going by the quotes from Rangi.
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The non-selection/ lack of trust in Faiane is one that puzzled me the most (actually, maybe Gibson at 6 is stranger).
Faiane is/was the glue player in that back line and allows Rieko to be more comfortable, so I dont see why he is out of favor.
@gt12 said in Blues 2021:
The non-selection/ lack of trust in Faiane is one that puzzled me the most (actually, maybe Gibson at 6 is stranger).
Faiane is/was the glue player in that back line and allows Rieko to be more comfortable, so I dont see why he is out of favor.
He's such an important player. He's like Gael Fickou in the way he leads the defensive line
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The Ruru- Black combo had really not worked at all this season.
Is Nock injured or something? Becuase hes was good last season and at the start of this...
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The Ruru- Black combo had really not worked at all this season.
Is Nock injured or something? Becuase hes was good last season and at the start of this...
@mackerzzzz said in Blues 2021:
Is Nock injured or something? Becuase hes was good last season and at the start of this...
Still paying the price for being on the end of a dubious yellow card call in one of the two games he has played?
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@mackerzzzz said in Blues 2021:
Is Nock injured or something? Becuase hes was good last season and at the start of this...
Still paying the price for being on the end of a dubious yellow card call in one of the two games he has played?
@gunner said in Blues 2021:
@mackerzzzz said in Blues 2021:
Is Nock injured or something? Becuase hes was good last season and at the start of this...
Still paying the price for being on the end of a dubious yellow card call in one of the two games he has played?
that was rough, too. Justin Marshall (as usual) got it wrong. It looked bad, though, and that's enough
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I will absolutely start a campaign to oust MacDonald if he doesn't start Nock in the Trans- Ta$man competition. No more bullshit!
@tim said in Blues 2021:
I will absolutely start a campaign to oust MacDonald if he doesn't start Nock in the Trans- Ta$man competition. No more bullshit!
holy overreaction batman! MacDonald has some serious rope for me, after the Tana and JK years. I'm a Nock fan, but damn
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Nah i'm with @Tim . Macdonald's treatment of the halfback situation has been criminal.
Nock should be starting.
@kiwimurph @tim I don't disagree the halfback management has been poor, but who's going to be a better coach? I'm willing to give him more time; changing the coach is not going to fix the problem.
That said, if you want to start a Nock Supporters Campaign and picket Blues HQ if Nock isn't playing, I'll rock down to that and bring placards and a bbq
Nock had the best passing and kicking game of the three halfbacks. Finlay was noticeable at the weekend for not playing heads up - he was determined to pass no matter what, and ignored gaps in front of him to do that. Ruru is definitely not as aware of space, but his ruck work and defence is superior.
Reckon when BB comes back next year he'll have a strong say in the qualities he wants in a 9
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Whew.
I was a bit concerned that if Nuggie got injured, we'd be stuck with Brad Weber and TTT for the All Blacks.
But, it turns out we've got a guy called Nock who's so good the Blues fans are going to sack their best coach since Sir Gram if he doesn't get a game.
My main question now is whether Nock will be starting and Aaron's going to be watching from the bench!
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Whew.
I was a bit concerned that if Nuggie got injured, we'd be stuck with Brad Weber and TTT for the All Blacks.
But, it turns out we've got a guy called Nock who's so good the Blues fans are going to sack their best coach since Sir Gram if he doesn't get a game.
My main question now is whether Nock will be starting and Aaron's going to be watching from the bench!
@chris-b said in Blues 2021:
Whew.
I was a bit concerned that if Nuggie got injured, we'd be stuck with Brad Weber and TTT for the All Blacks.
But, it turns out we've got a guy called Nock who's so good the Blues fans are going to sack their best coach since Sir Gram if he doesn't get a game.
My main question now is whether Nock will be starting and Aaron's going to be watching from the bench!
Nock hasn't been selected this year because he's not playing well. He had opportunities and didn't take them, once being dragged just after halftime.
You could say the same for Christie and to a lesser degree Ruru (who has been playing better than both, despite his flaws). Not the coaches fault, up to the players to fit the gameplan and do the basics.
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Whew.
I was a bit concerned that if Nuggie got injured, we'd be stuck with Brad Weber and TTT for the All Blacks.
But, it turns out we've got a guy called Nock who's so good the Blues fans are going to sack their best coach since Sir Gram if he doesn't get a game.
My main question now is whether Nock will be starting and Aaron's going to be watching from the bench!
@chris-b said in Blues 2021:
My main question now is whether Nock will be starting and Aaron's going to be watching from the bench!
Well, Nuggie wasn't even the starter at the Highlanders.
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@chris-b said in Blues 2021:
Whew.
I was a bit concerned that if Nuggie got injured, we'd be stuck with Brad Weber and TTT for the All Blacks.
But, it turns out we've got a guy called Nock who's so good the Blues fans are going to sack their best coach since Sir Gram if he doesn't get a game.
My main question now is whether Nock will be starting and Aaron's going to be watching from the bench!
Nock hasn't been selected this year because he's not playing well. He had opportunities and didn't take them, once being dragged just after halftime.
You could say the same for Christie and to a lesser degree Ruru (who has been playing better than both, despite his flaws). Not the coaches fault, up to the players to fit the gameplan and do the basics.
@kirwan said in Blues 2021:
@chris-b said in Blues 2021:
Whew.
I was a bit concerned that if Nuggie got injured, we'd be stuck with Brad Weber and TTT for the All Blacks.
But, it turns out we've got a guy called Nock who's so good the Blues fans are going to sack their best coach since Sir Gram if he doesn't get a game.
My main question now is whether Nock will be starting and Aaron's going to be watching from the bench!
Nock hasn't been selected this year because he's not playing well. He had opportunities and didn't take them, once being dragged just after halftime.
You could say the same for Christie and to a lesser degree Ruru (who has been playing better than both, despite his flaws). Not the coaches fault, up to the players to fit the gameplan and do the basics.
It is absolutely the coaches fault.
Firstly they chop and change the 9 almost every week and then wonder why said starting 9 can't get into a rhythm. Nock up until this last game wasn't playing as well as he played last season but he also hasn't been given a proper crack. They gave Nock a proper crack last season and the Blues went undefeated for like 6 or 7 games that he started.
Secondly, the one 9 they give more opportunities than the other is the one that struggles the most in attacking phase play and then wonder why their attack is struggling.
Do you notice that no other NZ team is playing a 9 that plays the same style as Ruru? Funny that.
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What is clear, is Ruru is not the answer for the Blues at 9 (esp to start) neither Nock or Christie have been given the repeated chances to play into form that Ruru does.
It is not like fucking around with the 9s is a new thing under McDonald though.
I said at the start of the season Nock or Christie needed to be given a shot to start, and backed them to start and form combinations and get some form, yet any hint of a substandard kick, pass or 50-50 ref call and they get dropped, yet Ruru can have a shocker and gets to start the following week, although he then gets dropped even if he has a half decent game.
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@chris-b said in Blues 2021:
Whew.
I was a bit concerned that if Nuggie got injured, we'd be stuck with Brad Weber and TTT for the All Blacks.
But, it turns out we've got a guy called Nock who's so good the Blues fans are going to sack their best coach since Sir Gram if he doesn't get a game.
My main question now is whether Nock will be starting and Aaron's going to be watching from the bench!
Nock hasn't been selected this year because he's not playing well. He had opportunities and didn't take them, once being dragged just after halftime.
You could say the same for Christie and to a lesser degree Ruru (who has been playing better than both, despite his flaws). Not the coaches fault, up to the players to fit the gameplan and do the basics.
@kirwan said in Blues 2021:
Not the coaches fault, up to the players to fit the gameplan and do the basics.
I think the bench halfback has performed better than the starting halfback in every match? Look at the MOTM voting the only times the halfbacks registered were from the bench.
(starts were Ruru 4, Nock 2, Christie 2)It's time to move on from Ruru at least. It appears Nock has not been rated by multiple coaches. Remember last year he missed a match because of an off field fight? I hope it's not that bullshit again.
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@kirwan said in Blues 2021:
Not the coaches fault, up to the players to fit the gameplan and do the basics.
I think the bench halfback has performed better than the starting halfback in every match? Look at the MOTM voting the only times the halfbacks registered were from the bench.
(starts were Ruru 4, Nock 2, Christie 2)It's time to move on from Ruru at least. It appears Nock has not been rated by multiple coaches. Remember last year he missed a match because of an off field fight? I hope it's not that bullshit again.
Let's break down the halfback usage for the Blues this season.
Game 1 - Nock Start, Ruru Bench
Game 2 - Ruru Start, Nock Bench
Game 3 - Ruru Start, Christie Bench
Game 4 - Christie Start, Ruru Bench
Game 5 - Nock Start, Ruru Bench
Game 6 - Ruru Start, Christie Bench
Game 7 - Ruru Start, Christie Bench
Game 8 - Christie Start, Nock BenchA total mess.
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@kirwan said in Blues 2021:
Not the coaches fault, up to the players to fit the gameplan and do the basics.
I think the bench halfback has performed better than the starting halfback in every match? Look at the MOTM voting the only times the halfbacks registered were from the bench.
(starts were Ruru 4, Nock 2, Christie 2)It's time to move on from Ruru at least. It appears Nock has not been rated by multiple coaches. Remember last year he missed a match because of an off field fight? I hope it's not that bullshit again.
@duluth said in Blues 2021:
@kirwan said in Blues 2021:
Not the coaches fault, up to the players to fit the gameplan and do the basics.
I think the bench halfback has performed better than the starting halfback in every match? Look at the MOTM voting the only times the halfbacks registered were from the bench.
(starts were Ruru 4, Nock 2, Christie 2)It's time to move on from Ruru at least. It appears Nock has not been rated by multiple coaches. Remember last year he missed a match because of an off field fight? I hope it's not that bullshit again.
That's not something that happens only at the Blues.
A couple of years ago at the Mako, we had Christie as the No.1 halfback and Keisuke Uchida coming off the bench looking like an absolute gun.
It seemed like a no-brainer that they should switch roles - but, when they did - Uchida looked like a roughie and Christie looked like a gun.
I concluded that it's a lot harder being a starting halfback when everyone is fresh and you've got fractionally less time.
I think the same thing happens regularly at the Crusaders with Hall and Drummond. Whomever comes of the bench tends to look slicker.
