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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">I think Tomane has what it takes to be a good international wing, but just needs to be selected and given time to develop into the role.
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">ACTC yea Tomane, that's him. Boy can can run, but i think he needs to work on his defensive side a fair amount. Agree he could be good given time. Will he be given it though?
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<p>And this is the guy taking over from him at the Brumbies for #8:</p>
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<p><img src="http://d18qlcmuthlbsu.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Ita-Vaea.jpg" alt="Ita-Vaea.jpg"></p>
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<p>Pretty risky playing in the second trimester I would have thought.</p> -
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<p>Pretty risky playing in the second trimester I would have thought.</p>
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<p><img src="http://assets.babycenter.com/ims/2012/10/iStock_000004701536Medium(2)_4x3.jpg?width=520" alt="iStock_000004701536Medium(2)_4x3.jpg?wid"></p>
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This is pretty sad , looks like he worked hard to get into shape <br>
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/78806428/Brumbies-back-rower-Ita-Vaea-retires-after-doctors-warn-rugby-could-kill-him'>http://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/78806428/Brumbies-back-rower-Ita-Vaea-retires-after-doctors-warn-rugby-could-kill-him</a> -
<p>I saw Ita play at the Cake Tin a few years ago and he was a real handful for the Canes boys, before getting knocked out by a Motu'u special. A real shame for such a talented and bruising player.</p>
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<p>This is pretty sad , looks like he worked hard to get into shape<br><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/78806428/Brumbies-back-rower-Ita-Vaea-retires-after-doctors-warn-rugby-could-kill-him'>http://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/78806428/Brumbies-back-rower-Ita-Vaea-retires-after-doctors-warn-rugby-could-kill-him</a></p>
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<p>that really sucks, but good decision.</p>
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<p>ARU have announced a $10.8M loss including $6M to prop up the Rebels.</p>
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<p>Considering that the 5 franchises must be harming the ability to earn money from the spreading of talent you wonder why paying out for one of those teams makes sense.</p>
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<p>There are a few issues here.</p>
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<p>A loss in a RWC year is expected. Less gate revenue, less TV revenue, less sponsorship. Some of that is made up by IRB grants, but not enough - in 2011 we recorded a similar result (about $4m).</p>
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<p>The 5 vs 4 team thing is an old debate, and ultimately the ARU have decided to wear the cost of that in order to have a national footprint. It also gets us more TV cash.</p>
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<p>I guess the calculation (over a long term) is TV cash generated by 5th team less cost to prop up 5th team less cost of potential earnings from finals etc due to weaker teams.</p>
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<p>It does give more opportunities for our players. The Force and Rebels have unearthed some really good youngsters that may not have had an opportunity under the old structure. </p>
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<p>What's the breakdown for the increased revenue with Lion's Tours?</p>
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<p>No doubt gate sales but how else does the host nation make so much? Anybody know?</p>
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<p>TV rights back to the UK (and hte rest of the world). Kind of like when India tour in cricket I guess.</p> -
<p>from here, dating back to 2013: <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/22814824'>http://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/22814824</a></p>
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<p style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, freesans, sans-serif;font-size:16px;color:rgb(18,18,18);">The Lions tour of Australia is <a class="" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/international/britishandirishlionsrugby/10072262/British-and-Irish-Lions-2013-financial-balance-of-future-tours-to-be-discussed.html">reportedly expected to generate £40m for the Australian Rugby Union,</a> while the Lions are expected to share a pot of £6m, generated largely by sponsorship. All the profits made by the Lions are shared by Ireland, England, Scotland and Wales.</p>
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<p>I don't have a problem with Aussie having 5 teams (anymore). They seem to be well supported, and spreading the depth for Australia.</p>
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<p>10.8mm loss isn't too bad I don't think, especially given Barb's WC year comments. A good CEO with strong support staff should be able to turn that around pretty quickly. It's a matter of pinpointing where the losses are coming from and stemming the tide.</p> -
<p>The question is really is that expected? Do other unions suffer the same in a RWC year?</p>
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<p>Good question. The NZRU agm is in a couple of weeks so I guess we can compare then.</p>
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<p>Haven't we already announced our figures? I will look it up but seem to recall it being a minor profit due mainly to the hit taken from less tests.</p> -
<p>It was a loss but smaller than expected</p>
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<p>New Zealand Rugby turned to a loss in 2015 and is budgeting for that loss to worsen this year as the national sports administrator increases funding to financially challenged provincial rugby.</p>
<p>NZ Rugby posted a loss of $463,000 in the year to Dec. 31, from a profit of $373,000 a year earlier, the rugby union said in a statement. Income rose 11 percent to $133.7 million, while costs increased 12 percent to $134.3 million. Cash reserves fell slightly to $59.1 million from $62.6 million a year earlier.</p>
<p>The loss was less than the central union budgeted for, chief executive Steve Tew said, and the organisation had invested a record amount in rugby for a Rugby World Cup year, driven by its desire to win back-to-back titles. It also increased funding for the menâ€
s and womenâ€s sevens teams in the lead up to this yearâ€s Olympic Games in Rio de Janeiro where sevens makes itâ€s debut as an Olympic event.</p>
<p>The organisation makes less in a World Cup year with fewer tests played, Tew said. Test match revenue fell $12 million from 2014, which added to an undisclosed financial loss from the 2015 Wellington Sevens. However, Tew said the cash reserves meant its overall financial position remained strong.</p>
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<p>A $12M hit on income due to less tests but only a $800k hit on profit.</p>
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<p>Full article here <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://business.scoop.co.nz/2016/03/16/nz-rugby-falls-to-loss-increases-provincial-funding/'>http://business.scoop.co.nz/2016/03/16/nz-rugby-falls-to-loss-increases-provincial-funding/</a></p>
