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Chiefs 2021

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    @dan54 said in Chiefs 2021:

    @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

    @bovidae

    If he can become a reliable thrower, he’ll likely become an All Black.

    If we had a trustworthy line out, we’d also likely shoot straight back to being the second or third best team in NZ (I know we finaled in SRA, but we got there through a bunch of lucky wins and Dmac’s boot).

    With BBBR back we will automatically go from having lock be a position of weakness, to one of strength, but I’d like it if we had another younger player to bring through who is more clearly a lock, rather than a lock/6 or 6/lock.

    However, with BBBR, Vaii, and Lord, I guess I shouldn’t complain.

    Mate I don't see locks as being weak, I think Va'ai is as good a lock as any running around, and Ah Khuoi is not bad. Actually think when BBBR comes back him and Va'ai will be best locking set up in country.

    He is not even a starter for the Wellington Lions. Whether that is because he is not rated by the Wgtn management or their love affair with their captain, J. Blackwell, is yet to be determined.

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    @higgins said in Chiefs 2021:

    @dan54 said in Chiefs 2021:

    @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

    @bovidae

    If he can become a reliable thrower, he’ll likely become an All Black.

    If we had a trustworthy line out, we’d also likely shoot straight back to being the second or third best team in NZ (I know we finaled in SRA, but we got there through a bunch of lucky wins and Dmac’s boot).

    With BBBR back we will automatically go from having lock be a position of weakness, to one of strength, but I’d like it if we had another younger player to bring through who is more clearly a lock, rather than a lock/6 or 6/lock.

    However, with BBBR, Vaii, and Lord, I guess I shouldn’t complain.

    Mate I don't see locks as being weak, I think Va'ai is as good a lock as any running around, and Ah Khuoi is not bad. Actually think when BBBR comes back him and Va'ai will be best locking set up in country.

    He is not even a starter for the Wellington Lions. Whether that is because he is not rated by the Wgtn management or their love affair with their captain, J. Blackwell, is yet to be determined.

    I think it's a given. Ah Kuoi has played really well at Super level. Lions are missing a trick if they don't use him.
    Chiefs number 3 lock when BBBR is back.

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      Chief Luke Jacobson escapes further sanction after red card

      Jacobson became the first player in Super Rugby Trans- Ta$man to receive a red card after he was issued two yellows during their one-point win.

      The All Black was initially sent from the field in the 35th minute after collapsing the maul close to their tryline in a scoring position, with the Force subsequently awarded a penalty try.

      He was then gone for good in the 64th minute after repeated infringements on their line.

      The case was referred to SANZAAR's Judicial Committee, who believed that whilst the on-field sanction was justified, Jacobson would not miss any further time for his actions.

      "The Judicial Committee conducted a detailed review of all the available evidence, including all camera angles, and additional evidence from the player and submissions from his representative, Aaron Lloyd," Judicial Committee Chairman Adam Casselden SC said.

      “With respect to sanction the Judicial Committee ruled, after considering a number of factors, including the direction provided by World Rugby's Regulation 17 - Appendix 4, owing to the nature of the yellow cards being for technical offences with no malice, it was felt that along with the Player’s exemplary disciplinary record, that the Player’s ordering off merited no further sanction.”

      "The player is therefore free to play and will serve no suspension”

      This will ensure that Jacobson is free to face the Brumbies on Saturday.

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        Chief Luke Jacobson escapes further sanction after red card

        Jacobson became the first player in Super Rugby Trans- Ta$man to receive a red card after he was issued two yellows during their one-point win.

        The All Black was initially sent from the field in the 35th minute after collapsing the maul close to their tryline in a scoring position, with the Force subsequently awarded a penalty try.

        He was then gone for good in the 64th minute after repeated infringements on their line.

        The case was referred to SANZAAR's Judicial Committee, who believed that whilst the on-field sanction was justified, Jacobson would not miss any further time for his actions.

        "The Judicial Committee conducted a detailed review of all the available evidence, including all camera angles, and additional evidence from the player and submissions from his representative, Aaron Lloyd," Judicial Committee Chairman Adam Casselden SC said.

        “With respect to sanction the Judicial Committee ruled, after considering a number of factors, including the direction provided by World Rugby's Regulation 17 - Appendix 4, owing to the nature of the yellow cards being for technical offences with no malice, it was felt that along with the Player’s exemplary disciplinary record, that the Player’s ordering off merited no further sanction.”

        "The player is therefore free to play and will serve no suspension”

        This will ensure that Jacobson is free to face the Brumbies on Saturday.

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        @stargazer
        Imagine this even being a question.

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          After Aaron Smith, now an episode with Anton Lienert-Brown.
          In case you hadn't noticed, these YT clips are only intros to a longer episode on Sky Go & Sky Sport Now. The entire episode is about 23 minutes long.

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            I watched that earlier in the week. ALB had his birthday during the week of filming.

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              It was just a poke in the eye for Tupou Vaa’i, but it still has the Chiefs sweating on the availability of their All Blacks lock for their trip to face the Reds next weekend.

              Vaa’i was the major injury worry out of Saturday night’s 40-19 victory over the Brumbies in Hamilton, replaced in the 34th minute after an eventful start which saw the 21-year-old flat on the deck in the opening minute, then scoring the game’s opening try three minutes later.

              But while coach Clayton McMillan was able to reveal no extensive damage to his star second rower post-match, he stopped short of locking him in for next Saturday night’s fixture in Townsville.

              Vaa’i has all of a sudden become a crucial man for a Chiefs side operating without Brodie Retallick until he rejoins next season following his stint in Japan.

              Uncapped Laghlan McWhannell (knee) has been sidelined for a third straight season, fellow youngster Naitoa Ah Kuoi (neck) and the more experienced Mitchell Brown (knee) have missed the first two rounds of Super Rugby Trans- Ta$man, while uncontracted Samipeni Finau, who has logged six games this year, has been out of contention for the last three games due to a shoulder problem.

              That has seen Bay of Plenty and Tonga loose forward Zane Kapeli cover lock off the bench the last fortnight, so any more absences in the second row will start to really cause some issues, with a lineout that is already not without its shakes.

              McMillan said winger Jonah Lowe “should be fine” after a tight hamstring forced him off in the 53rd minute, while prop Angus Ta’avao (groin strain) and midfielder/winger Sean Wainui (shoulder) are others on the short-term casualty ward, as the Chiefs work out just who they will have for another dash across the ditch, fresh off their trek to Perth in round one.

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/125192273/super-rugby-just-a-poke-in-the-eye-for-tupou-vaai-but-chiefs-still-look-for-reinforcements

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                22-year-old Tupaea has re-signed with the Gallagher Chiefs and his Waikato provincial union through to 2023.

                https://twitter.com/ChiefsRugby/status/1397343816978354179

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                  Reading the full article:

                  Tupaea has been named in the Gallagher Chiefs squad to travel to Townsville today to face the Reds on Saturday 29 May.

                  Hopefully the likes of Ah Kuoi and Finau are also over their injuries.

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                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                    22-year-old Tupaea has re-signed with the Gallagher Chiefs and his Waikato provincial union through to 2023.

                    https://twitter.com/ChiefsRugby/status/1397343816978354179

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                    @stargazer great to hear. Feels like someone who loves being a Chief and he's one of my favourite up and comers so stoked to have him stick around.

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                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/125308685/super-rugby-damian-mckenzie-handed-threeweek-ban-for-dangerous-tackle

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                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/125308685/super-rugby-damian-mckenzie-handed-threeweek-ban-for-dangerous-tackle

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                        @kiwimurph So as expected. At least there's consistency with decisions in similar cases.

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                          The Chiefs were already fucked, so him having a little rest might be good for the ABs.

                          Three weeks, for that, seems heavy to me though.

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                          • gt12G gt12

                            The Chiefs were already fucked, so him having a little rest might be good for the ABs.

                            Three weeks, for that, seems heavy to me though.

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                            @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                            The Chiefs were already fucked, so him having a little rest might be good for the ABs.

                            Three weeks, for that, seems heavy to me though.

                            It is the standard now and I agree that it needs to be there to try and change mindsets.

                            However, when one player gets 3 weeks yet another doesn't even get cited for a swinging high shot that connects flush on the chin it does look harsh.
                            I get why the ref missed it but the post game review should have easily cited that one.

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                              Shoulder charge to the head should get three weeks minimum.

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                              • ToddyT Toddy

                                Shoulder charge to the head should get three weeks minimum.

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                                @toddy said in Chiefs 2021:

                                Shoulder charge to the head should get three weeks minimum.

                                Doesn't work that way. It's six weeks entry point then mitigations etc.
                                Pretty much results in 3 weeks unless you keep doing it and don't learn.

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                                • gt12G gt12

                                  The Chiefs were already fucked, so him having a little rest might be good for the ABs.

                                  Three weeks, for that, seems heavy to me though.

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                                  @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                                  The Chiefs were already fucked, so him having a little rest might be good for the ABs.

                                  Trask will now get more time in the no.10 jersey I assume. Who played at fullback in the 2nd half? Tiatia or Stevenson? I didn't see the game.

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                                    The Chiefs were already fucked, so him having a little rest might be good for the ABs.

                                    Trask will now get more time in the no.10 jersey I assume. Who played at fullback in the 2nd half? Tiatia or Stevenson? I didn't see the game.

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                                    @bovidae said in Chiefs 2021:

                                    @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                                    The Chiefs were already fucked, so him having a little rest might be good for the ABs.

                                    Trask will now get more time in the no.10 jersey I assume. Who played at fullback in the 2nd half? Tiatia or Stevenson? I didn't see the game.

                                    You lucky bastard.

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                                    • CrucialC Crucial

                                      @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                                      The Chiefs were already fucked, so him having a little rest might be good for the ABs.

                                      Three weeks, for that, seems heavy to me though.

                                      It is the standard now and I agree that it needs to be there to try and change mindsets.

                                      However, when one player gets 3 weeks yet another doesn't even get cited for a swinging high shot that connects flush on the chin it does look harsh.
                                      I get why the ref missed it but the post game review should have easily cited that one.

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                                      @crucial said in Chiefs 2021:

                                      @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                                      The Chiefs were already fucked, so him having a little rest might be good for the ABs.

                                      Three weeks, for that, seems heavy to me though.

                                      It is the standard now and I agree that it needs to be there to try and change mindsets.

                                      However, when one player gets 3 weeks yet another doesn't even get cited for a swinging high shot that connects flush on the chin it does look harsh.
                                      I get why the ref missed it but the post game review should have easily cited that one.

                                      Which swinging high shot are we talking about?

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                                        @crucial said in Chiefs 2021:

                                        @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                                        The Chiefs were already fucked, so him having a little rest might be good for the ABs.

                                        Three weeks, for that, seems heavy to me though.

                                        It is the standard now and I agree that it needs to be there to try and change mindsets.

                                        However, when one player gets 3 weeks yet another doesn't even get cited for a swinging high shot that connects flush on the chin it does look harsh.
                                        I get why the ref missed it but the post game review should have easily cited that one.

                                        Which swinging high shot are we talking about?

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                                        @frye said in Chiefs 2021:

                                        @crucial said in Chiefs 2021:

                                        @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                                        The Chiefs were already fucked, so him having a little rest might be good for the ABs.

                                        Three weeks, for that, seems heavy to me though.

                                        It is the standard now and I agree that it needs to be there to try and change mindsets.

                                        However, when one player gets 3 weeks yet another doesn't even get cited for a swinging high shot that connects flush on the chin it does look harsh.
                                        I get why the ref missed it but the post game review should have easily cited that one.

                                        Which swinging high shot are we talking about?

                                        To'omua on Collins the next day.

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                                        • CrucialC Crucial

                                          @frye said in Chiefs 2021:

                                          @crucial said in Chiefs 2021:

                                          @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                                          The Chiefs were already fucked, so him having a little rest might be good for the ABs.

                                          Three weeks, for that, seems heavy to me though.

                                          It is the standard now and I agree that it needs to be there to try and change mindsets.

                                          However, when one player gets 3 weeks yet another doesn't even get cited for a swinging high shot that connects flush on the chin it does look harsh.
                                          I get why the ref missed it but the post game review should have easily cited that one.

                                          Which swinging high shot are we talking about?

                                          To'omua on Collins the next day.

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                                          @crucial said in Chiefs 2021:

                                          @frye said in Chiefs 2021:

                                          @crucial said in Chiefs 2021:

                                          @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                                          The Chiefs were already fucked, so him having a little rest might be good for the ABs.

                                          Three weeks, for that, seems heavy to me though.

                                          It is the standard now and I agree that it needs to be there to try and change mindsets.

                                          However, when one player gets 3 weeks yet another doesn't even get cited for a swinging high shot that connects flush on the chin it does look harsh.
                                          I get why the ref missed it but the post game review should have easily cited that one.

                                          Which swinging high shot are we talking about?

                                          To'omua on Collins the next day.

                                          I take it he hasn't been cited?

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