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    Shoulder charge to the head should get three weeks minimum.

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    • ToddyT Toddy

      Shoulder charge to the head should get three weeks minimum.

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      @toddy said in Chiefs 2021:

      Shoulder charge to the head should get three weeks minimum.

      Doesn't work that way. It's six weeks entry point then mitigations etc.
      Pretty much results in 3 weeks unless you keep doing it and don't learn.

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      • gt12G gt12

        The Chiefs were already fucked, so him having a little rest might be good for the ABs.

        Three weeks, for that, seems heavy to me though.

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        @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

        The Chiefs were already fucked, so him having a little rest might be good for the ABs.

        Trask will now get more time in the no.10 jersey I assume. Who played at fullback in the 2nd half? Tiatia or Stevenson? I didn't see the game.

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        • BovidaeB Bovidae

          @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

          The Chiefs were already fucked, so him having a little rest might be good for the ABs.

          Trask will now get more time in the no.10 jersey I assume. Who played at fullback in the 2nd half? Tiatia or Stevenson? I didn't see the game.

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          @bovidae said in Chiefs 2021:

          @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

          The Chiefs were already fucked, so him having a little rest might be good for the ABs.

          Trask will now get more time in the no.10 jersey I assume. Who played at fullback in the 2nd half? Tiatia or Stevenson? I didn't see the game.

          You lucky bastard.

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          • CrucialC Crucial

            @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

            The Chiefs were already fucked, so him having a little rest might be good for the ABs.

            Three weeks, for that, seems heavy to me though.

            It is the standard now and I agree that it needs to be there to try and change mindsets.

            However, when one player gets 3 weeks yet another doesn't even get cited for a swinging high shot that connects flush on the chin it does look harsh.
            I get why the ref missed it but the post game review should have easily cited that one.

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            @crucial said in Chiefs 2021:

            @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

            The Chiefs were already fucked, so him having a little rest might be good for the ABs.

            Three weeks, for that, seems heavy to me though.

            It is the standard now and I agree that it needs to be there to try and change mindsets.

            However, when one player gets 3 weeks yet another doesn't even get cited for a swinging high shot that connects flush on the chin it does look harsh.
            I get why the ref missed it but the post game review should have easily cited that one.

            Which swinging high shot are we talking about?

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            • F Frye

              @crucial said in Chiefs 2021:

              @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

              The Chiefs were already fucked, so him having a little rest might be good for the ABs.

              Three weeks, for that, seems heavy to me though.

              It is the standard now and I agree that it needs to be there to try and change mindsets.

              However, when one player gets 3 weeks yet another doesn't even get cited for a swinging high shot that connects flush on the chin it does look harsh.
              I get why the ref missed it but the post game review should have easily cited that one.

              Which swinging high shot are we talking about?

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              @frye said in Chiefs 2021:

              @crucial said in Chiefs 2021:

              @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

              The Chiefs were already fucked, so him having a little rest might be good for the ABs.

              Three weeks, for that, seems heavy to me though.

              It is the standard now and I agree that it needs to be there to try and change mindsets.

              However, when one player gets 3 weeks yet another doesn't even get cited for a swinging high shot that connects flush on the chin it does look harsh.
              I get why the ref missed it but the post game review should have easily cited that one.

              Which swinging high shot are we talking about?

              To'omua on Collins the next day.

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              • CrucialC Crucial

                @frye said in Chiefs 2021:

                @crucial said in Chiefs 2021:

                @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                The Chiefs were already fucked, so him having a little rest might be good for the ABs.

                Three weeks, for that, seems heavy to me though.

                It is the standard now and I agree that it needs to be there to try and change mindsets.

                However, when one player gets 3 weeks yet another doesn't even get cited for a swinging high shot that connects flush on the chin it does look harsh.
                I get why the ref missed it but the post game review should have easily cited that one.

                Which swinging high shot are we talking about?

                To'omua on Collins the next day.

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                @crucial said in Chiefs 2021:

                @frye said in Chiefs 2021:

                @crucial said in Chiefs 2021:

                @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                The Chiefs were already fucked, so him having a little rest might be good for the ABs.

                Three weeks, for that, seems heavy to me though.

                It is the standard now and I agree that it needs to be there to try and change mindsets.

                However, when one player gets 3 weeks yet another doesn't even get cited for a swinging high shot that connects flush on the chin it does look harsh.
                I get why the ref missed it but the post game review should have easily cited that one.

                Which swinging high shot are we talking about?

                To'omua on Collins the next day.

                I take it he hasn't been cited?

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                • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                  @crucial said in Chiefs 2021:

                  @frye said in Chiefs 2021:

                  @crucial said in Chiefs 2021:

                  @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                  The Chiefs were already fucked, so him having a little rest might be good for the ABs.

                  Three weeks, for that, seems heavy to me though.

                  It is the standard now and I agree that it needs to be there to try and change mindsets.

                  However, when one player gets 3 weeks yet another doesn't even get cited for a swinging high shot that connects flush on the chin it does look harsh.
                  I get why the ref missed it but the post game review should have easily cited that one.

                  Which swinging high shot are we talking about?

                  To'omua on Collins the next day.

                  I take it he hasn't been cited?

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                  @kiwiwomble said in Chiefs 2021:

                  @crucial said in Chiefs 2021:

                  @frye said in Chiefs 2021:

                  @crucial said in Chiefs 2021:

                  @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                  The Chiefs were already fucked, so him having a little rest might be good for the ABs.

                  Three weeks, for that, seems heavy to me though.

                  It is the standard now and I agree that it needs to be there to try and change mindsets.

                  However, when one player gets 3 weeks yet another doesn't even get cited for a swinging high shot that connects flush on the chin it does look harsh.
                  I get why the ref missed it but the post game review should have easily cited that one.

                  Which swinging high shot are we talking about?

                  To'omua on Collins the next day.

                  I take it he hasn't been cited?

                  Not that I've heard. It may have been looked at but dismissed as a YC only which doesn't seem in line with the DMac call.

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                    Judging from their Instagram, it seems the Chiefs have remained in Australia. Maybe it seems more likely that the game will be played in Australia.

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                    • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                      Judging from their Instagram, it seems the Chiefs have remained in Australia. Maybe it seems more likely that the game will be played in Australia.

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                      @yeetyaah

                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/125308663/super-rugby-might-need-to-buy-some-new-undies--chiefs-preparing-for-extended-stay-in-australia

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                        Mils made some good points on the breakdown - how does Reece’s much more intentional hit get yellow but Dmac gets Red (and 3 weeks!) and that’s not even considering the Toomua shot.

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                          • gt12G gt12

                            Mils made some good points on the breakdown - how does Reece’s much more intentional hit get yellow but Dmac gets Red (and 3 weeks!) and that’s not even considering the Toomua shot.

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                            @gt12 because Reece plays for the Crusaders. 🙂

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                            • gt12G gt12

                              Mils made some good points on the breakdown - how does Reece’s much more intentional hit get yellow but Dmac gets Red (and 3 weeks!) and that’s not even considering the Toomua shot.

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                              @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                              Mils made some good points on the breakdown - how does Reece’s much more intentional hit get yellow but Dmac gets Red (and 3 weeks!) and that’s not even considering the Toomua shot.

                              Not sure on the Toomua one as I've only seen it once. But isn't there a few difference's between Sevu's and DMacs?

                              Sevu was making a tackle that started below the head on the ball carrier and then travelled up to contact with the head.

                              DMac ran in to shoulder charge/body check a player without the ball and clocked him clean in the face with his shoulder.

                              Sevu could always argue he was trying to make a tackle and a rugby incident occurred. DMac can only argue he was trying to take the Reds player out and accidentally hit his face, rather than his body.

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                                @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

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                                That Chiefs loose forward trio is awesome. Hard to believe the loose forward trio they're playing against is even better.

                                Super rugby was awesome back then.

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                                  @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                                  0DBA2671-42A7-4D83-94AE-196E8626E0F0.jpeg

                                  That Chiefs loose forward trio is awesome. Hard to believe the loose forward trio they're playing against is even better.

                                  Super rugby was awesome back then.

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                                  @toddy said in Chiefs 2021:

                                  @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                                  0DBA2671-42A7-4D83-94AE-196E8626E0F0.jpeg

                                  That Chiefs loose forward trio is awesome. Hard to believe the loose forward trio they're playing against is even better.

                                  Super rugby was awesome back then.

                                  Shit Lauaki was a fucken tank.

                                  RIP to him and JC.

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                                  • ToddyT Toddy

                                    @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                                    0DBA2671-42A7-4D83-94AE-196E8626E0F0.jpeg

                                    That Chiefs loose forward trio is awesome. Hard to believe the loose forward trio they're playing against is even better.

                                    Super rugby was awesome back then.

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                                    @toddy and to think two of the players in that picture are no longer with us. RIP.

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                                      I remember seeing Sione Lauaki play when I went to my first ever professional rugby game when I was 12. Was Waikato vs Southland in 2007. Remember thinking what a beast he was.

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                                      • ToddyT Toddy

                                        @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                                        Mils made some good points on the breakdown - how does Reece’s much more intentional hit get yellow but Dmac gets Red (and 3 weeks!) and that’s not even considering the Toomua shot.

                                        Not sure on the Toomua one as I've only seen it once. But isn't there a few difference's between Sevu's and DMacs?

                                        Sevu was making a tackle that started below the head on the ball carrier and then travelled up to contact with the head.

                                        DMac ran in to shoulder charge/body check a player without the ball and clocked him clean in the face with his shoulder.

                                        Sevu could always argue he was trying to make a tackle and a rugby incident occurred. DMac can only argue he was trying to take the Reds player out and accidentally hit his face, rather than his body.

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                                        @toddy said in Chiefs 2021:

                                        @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                                        Mils made some good points on the breakdown - how does Reece’s much more intentional hit get yellow but Dmac gets Red (and 3 weeks!) and that’s not even considering the Toomua shot.

                                        Not sure on the Toomua one as I've only seen it once. But isn't there a few difference's between Sevu's and DMacs?

                                        Sevu was making a tackle that started below the head on the ball carrier and then travelled up to contact with the head.

                                        DMac ran in to shoulder charge/body check a player without the ball and clocked him clean in the face with his shoulder.

                                        Sevu could always argue he was trying to make a tackle and a rugby incident occurred. DMac can only argue he was trying to take the Reds player out and accidentally hit his face, rather than his body.

                                        That's a good point. On the other hand the Reece hit was pretty much straight to the head with impact. In terms of actual danger, I wonder which is worse, and in the modern game players run into each other all the time, so incidents very similar to the Dmac one get missed a lot (btw the way, I think the RC is justified, I just don't get the inconsistency).

                                        I think Mils was making the point that there is a big difference between the two penalties, especially when Toomua got nothing for his (8:40 in the video).

                                        From 6:45 here, you can the discussion about all three.

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                                          @gt12 Strange seeing Craig Clarke in that photo, in a Canes jersey.

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