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Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final

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  • sparkyS sparky

    @crucial I've seen UK job application forms that ask for the details of any social media accounts that you've used in the last ten years and remain open to public view.

    Looks like Robinson did sanitise his account but forgot about deleting replies to his then mates from 2012/3.

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    @sparky said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @crucial I've seen UK job application forms that ask for the details of any social media accounts that you've used in the last ten years and remain open to public view.

    Yeah, that's fine (as long as they don't want your TSF handle).
    But that's for their due diligence. If they still employ you and something ancient is then brought to light is that your fault?
    However, if they do employ you and the contract states that pre-employment SM is grounds for discipline then fair enough. It's up to you to do some purging.
    Then what about things found on wayback engine?
    I probably have some appalling stuff in the pre moderated TSF days.

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    • CrucialC Crucial

      @antipodean said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

      @sparky said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

      The Daily Mail have found some racist and sexist tweets by Ollie Robinson (from 9 years ago when he was 18) that the ECB won't be happy about:

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-9644785/England-cricket-debutant-Ollie-Robinsons-historic-racist-sexist-tweets-emerge.html

      Fucking hell, we're setting ourselves a pretty low bar for outrage these days aren't we.

      Imagine having to read through that many years of tweets to dig for dirt.

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      @crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

      @antipodean said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

      @sparky said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

      The Daily Mail have found some racist and sexist tweets by Ollie Robinson (from 9 years ago when he was 18) that the ECB won't be happy about:

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-9644785/England-cricket-debutant-Ollie-Robinsons-historic-racist-sexist-tweets-emerge.html

      Fucking hell, we're setting ourselves a pretty low bar for outrage these days aren't we.

      Imagine having to read through that many years of tweets to dig for dirt.

      I was going to suggest that someone had this lined up for him from years ago just waiting for the chance. But @sparky 's reply makes as much sense. (BTW #nobooboo 🙂 )

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        #350

        I wouldn't drop Taylor from this series or the final, though I think there are some broad parallels in his recent form to late career Ponting possibly starting to show.

        Regardless, I think he will get to finish his career on his terms.

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          https://twitter.com/MoinA23/status/1400178653007429632?s=19

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          • MN5M MN5

            @virgil said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

            @mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

            @cyclops said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

            Conway is absurd. Everything looks so easy for him

            Amazingly ( well, to me at least ) he’s the twelfth BC to get a ton on debut. That seems like an awful lot of players !

            1930 - J E Mills - 117 vs England
            1965 - Bruce Taylor - 105 vs India (took a 5 wi as well, only time in Test history this has happened)
            1973 - Rodney Redmond - 107 vs Pakistan
            1988 - Mark 'Paddy' Greatbatch - 107* vs England
            1999 - Matthew Sinclair - 214 vs West Indies
            2001 - Lou Vincent - 104 vs Australia
            2002 - Scott Styris - 107 vs West Indies
            2010 - Kane Williamson - 131 vs India
            2013 - Hamish Rutherford - 171 vs England
            2014 - James Neesham - 137* vs India
            2017 - Tom Blundell - 107* vs West Indies
            2021 - Devon Conway - 136 vs England*

            Only one all timer on that list, possibly two.

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            @mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

            @virgil said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

            @mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

            @cyclops said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

            Conway is absurd. Everything looks so easy for him

            Amazingly ( well, to me at least ) he’s the twelfth BC to get a ton on debut. That seems like an awful lot of players !

            1930 - J E Mills - 117 vs England
            1965 - Bruce Taylor - 105 vs India (took a 5 wi as well, only time in Test history this has happened)
            1973 - Rodney Redmond - 107 vs Pakistan
            1988 - Mark 'Paddy' Greatbatch - 107* vs England
            1999 - Matthew Sinclair - 214 vs West Indies
            2001 - Lou Vincent - 104 vs Australia
            2002 - Scott Styris - 107 vs West Indies
            2010 - Kane Williamson - 131 vs India
            2013 - Hamish Rutherford - 171 vs England
            2014 - James Neesham - 137* vs India
            2017 - Tom Blundell - 107* vs West Indies
            2021 - Devon Conway - 136 vs England*

            Only one all timer on that list, possibly two.

            Just to take the list on a slightly different tangent on the stats, just looking at those who have got a 100 at lords on debut it is also a short list.

            1893 - 107 — Harry Graham (AUS)
            1969 - 107 — John Hampshire (ENG)
            1996 - 131 — Sourav Ganguly (IND)
            2004 - 112 — Andrew Strauss (ENG)
            2007 - 126* — Matt Prior (ENG)
            2021 - 132* — Devon Conway (NZ)

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            • bayimportsB bayimports

              @mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

              @virgil said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

              @mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

              @cyclops said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

              Conway is absurd. Everything looks so easy for him

              Amazingly ( well, to me at least ) he’s the twelfth BC to get a ton on debut. That seems like an awful lot of players !

              1930 - J E Mills - 117 vs England
              1965 - Bruce Taylor - 105 vs India (took a 5 wi as well, only time in Test history this has happened)
              1973 - Rodney Redmond - 107 vs Pakistan
              1988 - Mark 'Paddy' Greatbatch - 107* vs England
              1999 - Matthew Sinclair - 214 vs West Indies
              2001 - Lou Vincent - 104 vs Australia
              2002 - Scott Styris - 107 vs West Indies
              2010 - Kane Williamson - 131 vs India
              2013 - Hamish Rutherford - 171 vs England
              2014 - James Neesham - 137* vs India
              2017 - Tom Blundell - 107* vs West Indies
              2021 - Devon Conway - 136 vs England*

              Only one all timer on that list, possibly two.

              Just to take the list on a slightly different tangent on the stats, just looking at those who have got a 100 at lords on debut it is also a short list.

              1893 - 107 — Harry Graham (AUS)
              1969 - 107 — John Hampshire (ENG)
              1996 - 131 — Sourav Ganguly (IND)
              2004 - 112 — Andrew Strauss (ENG)
              2007 - 126* — Matt Prior (ENG)
              2021 - 132* — Devon Conway (NZ)

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              #353

              @bayimports Strauss was against us.

              Seen them all play bar Graham 😉

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              • bayimportsB bayimports

                @mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                @virgil said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                @mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                @cyclops said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                Conway is absurd. Everything looks so easy for him

                Amazingly ( well, to me at least ) he’s the twelfth BC to get a ton on debut. That seems like an awful lot of players !

                1930 - J E Mills - 117 vs England
                1965 - Bruce Taylor - 105 vs India (took a 5 wi as well, only time in Test history this has happened)
                1973 - Rodney Redmond - 107 vs Pakistan
                1988 - Mark 'Paddy' Greatbatch - 107* vs England
                1999 - Matthew Sinclair - 214 vs West Indies
                2001 - Lou Vincent - 104 vs Australia
                2002 - Scott Styris - 107 vs West Indies
                2010 - Kane Williamson - 131 vs India
                2013 - Hamish Rutherford - 171 vs England
                2014 - James Neesham - 137* vs India
                2017 - Tom Blundell - 107* vs West Indies
                2021 - Devon Conway - 136 vs England*

                Only one all timer on that list, possibly two.

                Just to take the list on a slightly different tangent on the stats, just looking at those who have got a 100 at lords on debut it is also a short list.

                1893 - 107 — Harry Graham (AUS)
                1969 - 107 — John Hampshire (ENG)
                1996 - 131 — Sourav Ganguly (IND)
                2004 - 112 — Andrew Strauss (ENG)
                2007 - 126* — Matt Prior (ENG)
                2021 - 132* — Devon Conway (NZ)

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                #354

                @bayimports Half of them are Jaapies!!! 🙂

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                • dogmeatD dogmeat

                  @bayimports Strauss was against us.

                  Seen them all play bar Graham 😉

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                  @dogmeat said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                  @bayimports Strauss was against us.

                  Seen them all play bar Graham 😉

                  Im glad you added the exception otherwise I would suspect you're a cyborg 🙂

                  I do remember as far back as the Ganguly game interestingly another famous Indian also debuted in that match (at no 7) ?

                  a virtual chocolate fish for anyone who can guess correctly without google?

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                  • bayimportsB bayimports

                    @dogmeat said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                    @bayimports Strauss was against us.

                    Seen them all play bar Graham 😉

                    Im glad you added the exception otherwise I would suspect you're a cyborg 🙂

                    I do remember as far back as the Ganguly game interestingly another famous Indian also debuted in that match (at no 7) ?

                    a virtual chocolate fish for anyone who can guess correctly without google?

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                    @bayimports dravid?

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                    • dogmeatD dogmeat

                      @bayimports dravid?

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                      @dogmeat said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                      @bayimports dravid?

                      correct..didnt expect a winner first up, especially batting at 7!

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                        • dogmeatD dogmeat

                          @bayimports dravid?

                          canefanC Away
                          canefanC Away
                          canefan
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                          @dogmeat said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                          @bayimports dravid?

                          Too slow! That was my guess too

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                          • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                            I wouldn't drop Taylor from this series or the final, though I think there are some broad parallels in his recent form to late career Ponting possibly starting to show.

                            Regardless, I think he will get to finish his career on his terms.

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                            @donsteppa said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                            I wouldn't drop Taylor from this series or the final, though I think there are some broad parallels in his recent form to late career Ponting possibly starting to show.

                            Regardless, I think he will get to finish his career on his terms.

                            Exactly. Just catch all your catches Roscoe...

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                            • dogmeatD dogmeat

                              @bayimports Strauss was against us.

                              Seen them all play bar Graham 😉

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                              @dogmeat said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                              @bayimports Strauss was against us.

                              Seen them all play bar Graham 😉

                              You sure about that...

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                              • canefanC canefan

                                @tewaio said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                @majorrage tomorrow! In the media center box as well woo

                                Is that the UFO thing? I notice they have built a couple of stands either side now so it doesn't look quite as prominent

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                                #362

                                @canefan said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                @tewaio said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                @majorrage tomorrow! In the media center box as well woo

                                Is that the UFO thing? I notice they have built a couple of stands either side now so it doesn't look quite as prominent

                                Yeah the alien pod thing, although now I have the tickets I see there's been a reshuffle to the Tavern Stand boxes instead. The new stands either side of the media center look great on TV, well see how they look live.

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                                  Great stuff by Conway. I can’t help think though we’ve become like Scotland in rugby: always with a few SA imports in the side.

                                  Nevertheless if Conway has made NZ his home: welcome son!

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                                  • TeWaioT TeWaio

                                    @canefan said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                    @tewaio said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                    @majorrage tomorrow! In the media center box as well woo

                                    Is that the UFO thing? I notice they have built a couple of stands either side now so it doesn't look quite as prominent

                                    Yeah the alien pod thing, although now I have the tickets I see there's been a reshuffle to the Tavern Stand boxes instead. The new stands either side of the media center look great on TV, well see how they look live.

                                    canefanC Away
                                    canefanC Away
                                    canefan
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                                    @tewaio said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                    @canefan said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                    @tewaio said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                    @majorrage tomorrow! In the media center box as well woo

                                    Is that the UFO thing? I notice they have built a couple of stands either side now so it doesn't look quite as prominent

                                    Yeah the alien pod thing, although now I have the tickets I see there's been a reshuffle to the Tavern Stand boxes instead. The new stands either side of the media center look great on TV, well see how they look live.

                                    Enjoy mate

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                                    • MajorStokesM Away
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                                      MajorStokes
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                                      #365

                                      What an entirely predictable bullshit fiasco regarding Robinson. Trash rag waits until his debut, then prints the story straight away, player is apologetic, and investigation is launched (wtf does that even mean), non-white player says he isn't racist etc etc.

                                      Having seen all the tweet's on the daily mail, I really wish he'd be completely unrepentant and point out they were jokes, plain and simple & were there to be enjoyed by him and his friends. Anybody that reads them and genuinely thinks he's bigoted in any way shape or form is a moron. This virtue signalling does absolutely nothing for anybody, in any place, of any colour, race or sex, at all.

                                      I firmly believe this shit does the causes more harm than good.

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                                      • TeWaioT TeWaio

                                        @canefan said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                        @tewaio said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                        @majorrage tomorrow! In the media center box as well woo

                                        Is that the UFO thing? I notice they have built a couple of stands either side now so it doesn't look quite as prominent

                                        Yeah the alien pod thing, although now I have the tickets I see there's been a reshuffle to the Tavern Stand boxes instead. The new stands either side of the media center look great on TV, well see how they look live.

                                        MajorStokesM Away
                                        MajorStokesM Away
                                        MajorStokes
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                                        #366

                                        @tewaio said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                        @canefan said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                        @tewaio said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                        @majorrage tomorrow! In the media center box as well woo

                                        Is that the UFO thing? I notice they have built a couple of stands either side now so it doesn't look quite as prominent

                                        Yeah the alien pod thing, although now I have the tickets I see there's been a reshuffle to the Tavern Stand boxes instead. The new stands either side of the media center look great on TV, well see how they look live.

                                        I need to get back on the buy side ....

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                                        • dogmeatD dogmeat

                                          @mn5 you contradict your own argument. If there are plenty of bug hitters to come Nicholls has no need to up his scoring rate. He just just keep on doing what he has been - we should be looking to bat once and bat big so slow scoring isn't really an issue at this stage. What we don't want to do is lose three quick wickets early on Day 2 and undo all the good work from Day 1

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                                          @dogmeat said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                          @mn5 you contradict your own argument. If there are plenty of bug hitters to come Nicholls has no need to up his scoring rate. He just just keep on doing what he has been - we should be looking to bat once and bat big so slow scoring isn't really an issue at this stage. What we don't want to do is lose three quick wickets early on Day 2 and undo all the good work from Day 1

                                          Yeah - I've written a few times before that for most tests, if you're batting first then I reckon a par waypoint is getting to 220/4.

                                          So we're a little bit ahead in terms of both runs and wickets lost.

                                          First session offers a chance for us to grab the game by the throat - or for England to get right back into it.

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