SR T-T FINAL: Blues v Highlanders
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@anonymous said in SR T-T FINAL: Blues v Highlanders:
@gt12 said in SR T-T FINAL: Blues v Highlanders:
@bones said in SR T-T FINAL: Blues v Highlanders:
@gunner said in SR T-T FINAL: Blues v Highlanders:
I’m behind the play, but I’m unsure how Dixon’s tackle is only yellow.
No malice he says, but most red cards we see these days have no malice, so it’s irrelevant.
Just wait until you see a red mitigated to a penalty
I cannot believe that we started at red when a guy literally tripped over, versus yellow for a tackle where a guy aimed with force to hit the key playmaker of the opposite team in the head with his shoulder.
To be fair, the shoulder to head did start at red, they just wrongly mitigated it down to yellow saying it wasn't directly to the head.
I’m talking about the discussion on here - without checking the thread it felt like the starting point was (generally) YC unless you were supporting the Blues while the Heem one was almost automatically RC - when he literally fell over.
@stargazer said in SR T-T FINAL: Blues v Highlanders:
@anonymous said in SR T-T FINAL: Blues v Highlanders:
@gt12 said in SR T-T FINAL: Blues v Highlanders:
@bones said in SR T-T FINAL: Blues v Highlanders:
@gunner said in SR T-T FINAL: Blues v Highlanders:
I’m behind the play, but I’m unsure how Dixon’s tackle is only yellow.
No malice he says, but most red cards we see these days have no malice, so it’s irrelevant.
Just wait until you see a red mitigated to a penalty
I cannot believe that we started at red when a guy literally tripped over, versus yellow for a tackle where a guy aimed with force to hit the key playmaker of the opposite team in the head with his shoulder.
To be fair, the shoulder to head did start at red, they just wrongly mitigated it down to yellow saying it wasn't directly to the head.
If it wasn't direct contact to the head, the starting point isn't red, but yellow.
You guys saying this must have seen different footage to the replays I saw. His shoulder literally smashes into the guy’s head. With force. Intentional force.
@gt12 said in SR T-T FINAL: Blues v Highlanders:
You guys saying this must have seen different footage to the replays I saw. His shoulder literally smashes into the guy’s head. With force. Intentional force.
You don't get better examples of high tackles meriting a red card.
Clear direct contact. Check.
Reckless. Check.
Avoidable. Check.
High force. Check.
Line of sight. Check. Unimpeded.
No sudden and significant drop or movement. Check.
Clear attempt to change height. Check. In fact Dixon started high and drove higher. -
@gt12 said in SR T-T FINAL: Blues v Highlanders:
You guys saying this must have seen different footage to the replays I saw. His shoulder literally smashes into the guy’s head. With force. Intentional force.
You don't get better examples of high tackles meriting a red card.
Clear direct contact. Check.
Reckless. Check.
Avoidable. Check.
High force. Check.
Line of sight. Check. Unimpeded.
No sudden and significant drop or movement. Check.
Clear attempt to change height. Check. In fact Dixon started high and drove higher.@antipodean said in SR T-T FINAL: Blues v Highlanders:
@gt12 said in SR T-T FINAL: Blues v Highlanders:
You guys saying this must have seen different footage to the replays I saw. His shoulder literally smashes into the guy’s head. With force. Intentional force.
You don't get better examples of high tackles meriting a red card.
Clear direct contact. Check.
Reckless. Check.
Avoidable. Check.
High force. Check.
Line of sight. Check. Unimpeded.
No sudden and significant drop or movement. Check.
Clear attempt to change height. Check. In fact Dixon started high and drove higher.No no no, that was a glancing blow, you see.
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@gt12 said in SR T-T FINAL: Blues v Highlanders:
You guys saying this must have seen different footage to the replays I saw. His shoulder literally smashes into the guy’s head. With force. Intentional force.
You don't get better examples of high tackles meriting a red card.
Clear direct contact. Check.
Reckless. Check.
Avoidable. Check.
High force. Check.
Line of sight. Check. Unimpeded.
No sudden and significant drop or movement. Check.
Clear attempt to change height. Check. In fact Dixon started high and drove higher.@antipodean said in SR T-T FINAL: Blues v Highlanders:
@gt12 said in SR T-T FINAL: Blues v Highlanders:
You guys saying this must have seen different footage to the replays I saw. His shoulder literally smashes into the guy’s head. With force. Intentional force.
You don't get better examples of high tackles meriting a red card.
Clear direct contact. Check.
Reckless. Check.
Avoidable. Check.
High force. Check.
Line of sight. Check. Unimpeded.
No sudden and significant drop or movement. Check.
Clear attempt to change height. Check. In fact Dixon started high and drove higher.I'm intrigued to see the footage that has the head as secondary contact.
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@african-monkey said in SR T-T FINAL: Blues v Highlanders:
@bones Caused by Nareki running him off the ball.
Eh? End on footage clearly shows Heem veering in to Nareki running straight, then they go shoulder to shoulder and either Heem wins, or Nareki isn't careless and realises he's going to collide with a player in the air so veers off. Heem falls over due to not being able to lean on Nareki.
@bones said in SR T-T FINAL: Blues v Highlanders:
@african-monkey said in SR T-T FINAL: Blues v Highlanders:
@bones Caused by Nareki running him off the ball.
Eh? End on footage clearly shows Heem veering in to Nareki running straight, then they go shoulder to shoulder and either Heem wins, or Nareki isn't careless and realises he's going to collide with a player in the air so veers off. Heem falls over due to not being able to lean on Nareki.
Falls over in the opposite direction of the guy he was trying to lean on?
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@antipodean said in SR T-T FINAL: Blues v Highlanders:
@gt12 said in SR T-T FINAL: Blues v Highlanders:
You guys saying this must have seen different footage to the replays I saw. His shoulder literally smashes into the guy’s head. With force. Intentional force.
You don't get better examples of high tackles meriting a red card.
Clear direct contact. Check.
Reckless. Check.
Avoidable. Check.
High force. Check.
Line of sight. Check. Unimpeded.
No sudden and significant drop or movement. Check.
Clear attempt to change height. Check. In fact Dixon started high and drove higher.I'm intrigued to see the footage that has the head as secondary contact.
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@antipodean said in SR T-T FINAL: Blues v Highlanders:
@gt12 said in SR T-T FINAL: Blues v Highlanders:
You guys saying this must have seen different footage to the replays I saw. His shoulder literally smashes into the guy’s head. With force. Intentional force.
You don't get better examples of high tackles meriting a red card.
Clear direct contact. Check.
Reckless. Check.
Avoidable. Check.
High force. Check.
Line of sight. Check. Unimpeded.
No sudden and significant drop or movement. Check.
Clear attempt to change height. Check. In fact Dixon started high and drove higher.I'm intrigued to see the footage that has the head as secondary contact.
@bones said in SR T-T FINAL: Blues v Highlanders:
@antipodean said in SR T-T FINAL: Blues v Highlanders:
@gt12 said in SR T-T FINAL: Blues v Highlanders:
You guys saying this must have seen different footage to the replays I saw. His shoulder literally smashes into the guy’s head. With force. Intentional force.
You don't get better examples of high tackles meriting a red card.
Clear direct contact. Check.
Reckless. Check.
Avoidable. Check.
High force. Check.
Line of sight. Check. Unimpeded.
No sudden and significant drop or movement. Check.
Clear attempt to change height. Check. In fact Dixon started high and drove higher.I'm intrigued to see the footage that has the head as secondary contact.
From the side you can see shoulder coming up, glancing of shoulder. Lucky.
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Jesus Heem, hold the ball.
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@antipodean said in SR T-T FINAL: Blues v Highlanders:
@gt12 said in SR T-T FINAL: Blues v Highlanders:
You guys saying this must have seen different footage to the replays I saw. His shoulder literally smashes into the guy’s head. With force. Intentional force.
You don't get better examples of high tackles meriting a red card.
Clear direct contact. Check.
Reckless. Check.
Avoidable. Check.
High force. Check.
Line of sight. Check. Unimpeded.
No sudden and significant drop or movement. Check.
Clear attempt to change height. Check. In fact Dixon started high and drove higher.I'm intrigued to see the footage that has the head as secondary contact.
@bones said in SR T-T FINAL: Blues v Highlanders:
@antipodean said in SR T-T FINAL: Blues v Highlanders:
@gt12 said in SR T-T FINAL: Blues v Highlanders:
You guys saying this must have seen different footage to the replays I saw. His shoulder literally smashes into the guy’s head. With force. Intentional force.
You don't get better examples of high tackles meriting a red card.
Clear direct contact. Check.
Reckless. Check.
Avoidable. Check.
High force. Check.
Line of sight. Check. Unimpeded.
No sudden and significant drop or movement. Check.
Clear attempt to change height. Check. In fact Dixon started high and drove higher.I'm intrigued to see the footage that has the head as secondary contact.
They called it secondary contact because it wasn't the first contact. But it was the first contact his shoulder (that was always going directly at the player's head) made, so it is a completely ridiculous interpretation of secondary contact.
