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Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final

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  • SiamS Siam

    Perhaps the major issue with the commentary is that they never bloody shut up!
    They call it like it's rugby with no dead air allowed.

    Cricket is enhanced when they shut up and let the pictures do the talking leaving us to make sense and build suspense in our own heads.

    Bumble and Gower would often go a whole over without talking, simply because there was nothing worthwhile to add.

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    @siam said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    Perhaps the major issue with the commentary is that they never bloody shut up!
    They call it like it's rugby with no dead air allowed.

    Cricket is enhanced when they shut up and let the pictures do the talking leaving us to make sense and build suspense in our own heads.

    Bumble and Gower would often go a whole over without talking, simply because there was nothing worthwhile to add.

    Yeah, they keep bringing up random tests from the past as well. The test has been utterly engrossing, I couldn't turn it off last night, and yet the comms start wanking on about a triple century Davey Dumb scored God knows when, flashing up the scorecard etc. It feels like someone decided this would be a great chance to advertise test cricket by bringing up games from the past? When the best advertisement is actually focusing on providing a detailed analysis of the two best teams in the world going hammer and tong in the final.

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      #2234

      A good list to be part of - from Wisden:

      The only players with more Test sixes than Tim Southee:

      McCullum

      Gilchrist

      Gayle

      Kallis

      Sehwag

      Lara

      Cairns

      Richards

      Flintoff

      Hayden

      Misbah

      Pietersen

      Stokes

      Dhoni

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      • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

        Watling the keeper is still excellent. I'd had an impression from last summer and scores in ND games that Watling the batsman hasn't quite been his usual rescuing batsman self lately, possibly since his double ton v England at Bay Oval in 2019. I've finally bothered to check some recent stats:

        Watling.PNG

        And Tests by year:

        Watling2.PNG

        Ideally he won't be needed with the bat tonight, but hopefully it's a fitting farewell for the understated legend if he is required.

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        #2235

        @donsteppa If you add the 2020 and 2021 stats for BJ together, you get the 11 innings of the two preceding years - but, an average of about 17.

        Probably timing his departure about right.

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        • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

          A good list to be part of - from Wisden:

          The only players with more Test sixes than Tim Southee:

          McCullum

          Gilchrist

          Gayle

          Kallis

          Sehwag

          Lara

          Cairns

          Richards

          Flintoff

          Hayden

          Misbah

          Pietersen

          Stokes

          Dhoni

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          #2236

          @donsteppa said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

          A good list to be part of - from Wisden:

          The only players with more Test sixes than Tim Southee:

          McCullum

          Gilchrist

          Gayle

          Kallis

          Sehwag

          Lara

          Cairns

          Richards

          Flintoff

          Hayden

          Misbah

          Pietersen

          Stokes

          Dhoni

          Anyone feel like building a "sixes rate" table? Sixes per 100 balls faced? I'm too busy at the moment sorry

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          • SiamS Siam

            Perhaps the major issue with the commentary is that they never bloody shut up!
            They call it like it's rugby with no dead air allowed.

            Cricket is enhanced when they shut up and let the pictures do the talking leaving us to make sense and build suspense in our own heads.

            Bumble and Gower would often go a whole over without talking, simply because there was nothing worthwhile to add.

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            #2237

            @siam Coney and Sir Wads were masters of that on radio. Really nice to hear background noise from the ground during the quiet period.

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              #2238

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              • B bayimports

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                @bayimports said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

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                That's brilliant - were the rest even trying?

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                • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

                  @bayimports said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

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                  That's brilliant - were the rest even trying?

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                  @kiwipie said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                  @bayimports said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

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                  That's brilliant - were the rest even trying?

                  Its almost as though Southee was after a record he could own, now if I extended the list to include more six hitters then of course Shahid Afridi would join Southee, but that was too much effort ๐Ÿ™‚

                  what the hell...

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                  • B bayimports

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                    #2241

                    @bayimports said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

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                    Hitting that many sixes is so irresponsible at test level.

                    ( Iโ€™m amazed no one has griped about his batting so thought Iโ€™d better get in there )

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                    • MN5M MN5

                      @bayimports said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

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                      Hitting that many sixes is so irresponsible at test level.

                      ( Iโ€™m amazed no one has griped about his batting so thought Iโ€™d better get in there )

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                      @mn5 I love that there are 3 Black Caps on the list, and they are all in the top 5.

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                        @mn5 I love that there are 3 Black Caps on the list, and they are all in the top 5.

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                        @godder said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                        @mn5 I love that there are 3 Black Caps on the list, and they are all in the top 5.

                        Four kiwis in the top six if you count that overrated Ranga who plays for the Poms.

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                        • B bayimports

                          @kiwipie said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                          @bayimports said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                          10e757b5-a694-4b2f-9725-1869f937a082-image.png

                          That's brilliant - were the rest even trying?

                          Its almost as though Southee was after a record he could own, now if I extended the list to include more six hitters then of course Shahid Afridi would join Southee, but that was too much effort ๐Ÿ™‚

                          what the hell...

                          63c18b04-046f-4927-8f72-132822d1e1e0-image.png

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                          @bayimports said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                          @kiwipie said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                          @bayimports said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                          10e757b5-a694-4b2f-9725-1869f937a082-image.png

                          That's brilliant - were the rest even trying?

                          Its almost as though Southee was after a record he could own, now if I extended the list to include more six hitters then of course Shahid Afridi would join Southee, but that was too much effort ๐Ÿ™‚

                          what the hell...

                          63c18b04-046f-4927-8f72-132822d1e1e0-image.png

                          Afridi was always too safe a batsman.

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                            #2245

                            May as well keep the subject going til the day startsโ€ฆ..

                            Iโ€™m shocked Beefy Botham isnโ€™t there. I remember highlights of him smoking some huge sixes ( and remember it was a lot tougher with bigger boundaries and less meaty bats in his day ).

                            Not surprised his mate Viv is there though.

                            EDIT: cricinfo has Beefy with 67 sixes out of 8565 balls faced, he just misses out.

                            Some old timer from back in the day only managed to hit six in his entire career. Bradman or someone, he must have been shit.

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                            • MN5M MN5

                              May as well keep the subject going til the day startsโ€ฆ..

                              Iโ€™m shocked Beefy Botham isnโ€™t there. I remember highlights of him smoking some huge sixes ( and remember it was a lot tougher with bigger boundaries and less meaty bats in his day ).

                              Not surprised his mate Viv is there though.

                              EDIT: cricinfo has Beefy with 67 sixes out of 8565 balls faced, he just misses out.

                              Some old timer from back in the day only managed to hit six in his entire career. Bradman or someone, he must have been shit.

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                              @mn5 Bradman was a disciple of hitting the ball along the ground and his technique was to turn his wrists accordingly. Tried to take the outfield catch away from the equation.

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                              • CrucialC Crucial

                                @mn5 Bradman was a disciple of hitting the ball along the ground and his technique was to turn his wrists accordingly. Tried to take the outfield catch away from the equation.

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                                @crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                @mn5 Bradman was a disciple of hitting the ball along the ground and his technique was to turn his wrists accordingly. Tried to take the outfield catch away from the equation.

                                Absolutely. Iโ€™m fairly sure I read somewhere that he still managed to score pretty quickly while virtually never hitting it in the air.

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                                  Geees 1 day to play in the world test final and if I was Kane I'd try have a quick chat to Kohli and see if he's up to try get a result and find a winner

                                  Tell him India can bat through to tea (assuming they make it that far) and then declare. In return the black caos will have a crack at whatever they can muster - and take it right to thru to dark too. If no declaration then kohli obviously is happy with a draw, so I wouldnt even come back after tea if no declaration

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                                    Geees 1 day to play in the world test final and if I was Kane I'd try have a quick chat to Kohli and see if he's up to try get a result and find a winner

                                    Tell him India can bat through to tea (assuming they make it that far) and then declare. In return the black caos will have a crack at whatever they can muster - and take it right to thru to dark too. If no declaration then kohli obviously is happy with a draw, so I wouldnt even come back after tea if no declaration

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                                    @jk said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                    Geees 1 day to play in the world test final and if I was Kane I'd try have a quick chat to Kohli and see if he's up to try get a result and find a winner

                                    Tell him India can bat through to tea (assuming they make it that far) and then declare. In return the black caos will have a crack at whatever they can muster - and take it right to thru to dark too. If no declaration then kohli obviously is happy with a draw, so I wouldnt even come back after tea if no declaration

                                    Itโ€™s a tough one alright but getting a result ( and I think both teams are too skilled and experienced to have any major fuck ups ) looks so unlikely. India will have to bat bloody quickly to get close to a defendable total and then what ? Are their bowlers as tired as some claim ?

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                                      @jk said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                      Geees 1 day to play in the world test final and if I was Kane I'd try have a quick chat to Kohli and see if he's up to try get a result and find a winner

                                      Tell him India can bat through to tea (assuming they make it that far) and then declare. In return the black caos will have a crack at whatever they can muster - and take it right to thru to dark too. If no declaration then kohli obviously is happy with a draw, so I wouldnt even come back after tea if no declaration

                                      Itโ€™s a tough one alright but getting a result ( and I think both teams are too skilled and experienced to have any major fuck ups ) looks so unlikely. India will have to bat bloody quickly to get close to a defendable total and then what ? Are their bowlers as tired as some claim ?

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                                      @mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                      @jk said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                      Geees 1 day to play in the world test final and if I was Kane I'd try have a quick chat to Kohli and see if he's up to try get a result and find a winner

                                      Tell him India can bat through to tea (assuming they make it that far) and then declare. In return the black caos will have a crack at whatever they can muster - and take it right to thru to dark too. If no declaration then kohli obviously is happy with a draw, so I wouldnt even come back after tea if no declaration

                                      Itโ€™s a tough one alright but getting a result ( and I think both teams are too skilled and experienced to have any major fuck ups ) looks so unlikely. India will have to bat bloody quickly to get close to a defendable total and then what ? Are their bowlers as tired as some claim ?

                                      Yeah. Would need to try manufacture something. Prob got accused for match fixing though!

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                                        I think every grand plan the fern has come up with has failed so far๐Ÿ™‚

                                        I say we let test cricket naturally serve up it's twists and turns, and be the great game it is. Just buckle up behind the couch and go along for the ride.

                                        Enough meddling you bloody control freaks!๐Ÿ˜

                                        We're a part of history here people!

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                                        • SiamS Siam

                                          I think every grand plan the fern has come up with has failed so far๐Ÿ™‚

                                          I say we let test cricket naturally serve up it's twists and turns, and be the great game it is. Just buckle up behind the couch and go along for the ride.

                                          Enough meddling you bloody control freaks!๐Ÿ˜

                                          We're a part of history here people!

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                                          @siam said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                          I think every grand plan the fern has come up with has failed so far๐Ÿ™‚

                                          I say we let test cricket naturally serve up it's twists and turns, and be the great game it is. Just buckle up behind the couch and go along for the ride.

                                          Enough meddling you bloody control freaks!๐Ÿ˜

                                          We're a part of history here people!

                                          I hope that fence up your ass crack isn't creating too much discomfort ๐Ÿ˜‰

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