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Hurricanes 2021

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  • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

    Always rated Aso, another one who we never really saw the best of.

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    @yeetyaah The selectors continued fascination and selection of Billy Proctor sees a decent player virtually run out of town.

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      Aso is a loss as a utility player but seemed more like a winger playing centre than an actual centre.

      I'd say Aso' lack of game time recently (other than injury) is more due to his time spent at bakeries rather than training.

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      • ToddyT Toddy

        Aso is a loss as a utility player but seemed more like a winger playing centre than an actual centre.

        I'd say Aso' lack of game time recently (other than injury) is more due to his time spent at bakeries rather than training.

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        @toddy yeah I commented in a recent game thread that Aso was looking like a prop.

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          IMO we've seen a fair amount of Vince Aso in his early years at the Canes, both at 13 and 14, and I think we all liked what we saw.

          He benefited quite a bit from Matt Proctor often suffering injuries, giving him an opportunity to play at centre. But the Canes just love the Proctors, so as soon as Matt came back from injury, Aso had to compete with Goosen (and NMS?) for the 14 jersey. Also preventing Jonah Lowe from getting any game time.

          Then Aso got seriously injured himself, Peter U-J came through the ranks; if he was given an opportunity at all, it was at 14. Then there was Billy Proctor and the diesel Bus returned ...

          His problem has been the many injuries (some serious) and the tendency of the Hurricanes coaching staff to discard a player as soon as he's seriously broken once. There's almost no opportunity to come back from a big injury at the Canes, unless you're one of the favourites/All Blacks. I'm sure someone can come up with more names than Hugh Renton, Geoff Cridge and Jonah Lowe.

          I've seen him play for the Hunters and during preseason this year, and he wasn't more than a shadow of his former self. Toala and Visinia were both a lot better and fitter than Aso. It was a bit sad to see, and - as @Toddy 's post suggests - he looked overweight.

          I hope he has been able to score a good contract with a fat pay check, and wish him well overseas.

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            See Fraser Armstrong is not returning on the Hurricanes Instagram page can’t find anywhere we he’s gone, I find it interesting as I thought Holland had a live interest with him.

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              See Fraser Armstrong is not returning on the Hurricanes Instagram page can’t find anywhere we he’s gone, I find it interesting as I thought Holland had a live interest with him.

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              @mikey07 not a big loss tbh. Hopefully we sign a couple decent loosehead props.

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              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                @mikey07 not a big loss tbh. Hopefully we sign a couple decent loosehead props.

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                @canes4life Yeah I’m definitely not crying over it he is overrated for the wraps he had on him. Surely a couple of them will stand up in the NPC

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                  @canes4life Yeah I’m definitely not crying over it he is overrated for the wraps he had on him. Surely a couple of them will stand up in the NPC

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                  @mikey07 I’m hoping big Tevita Mafileo gets more game time. He looks to have the size and scrummaging ability to be a real weapon but just needs more experience. Hopefully Owen Franks can teach the likes of Numia, Lomax and Mafileo a trick or two to take them to that next level.

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                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                    @mikey07 I’m hoping big Tevita Mafileo gets more game time. He looks to have the size and scrummaging ability to be a real weapon but just needs more experience. Hopefully Owen Franks can teach the likes of Numia, Lomax and Mafileo a trick or two to take them to that next level.

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                    @canes4life I hope Rakete-Stones stays and gets more game time; Mafileo can wait in the queue behind him.

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                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                      @canes4life I hope Rakete-Stones stays and gets more game time; Mafileo can wait in the queue behind him.

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                      @stargazer I rate Mafileo higher tbh and I’m pretty sure the Canes do aswell. If it wasn’t for his injury he would have been in the 23 over Rakete-Stones.

                      Rakete-Stones got rolled last night and looked fairly average tbh. In a game you’d expect him to dominate, he didn’t and that won’t have done his chances any good with contracts up for grabs atm.

                      I don’t care where the prop comes from, the Canes should be going all out in finding someone that has more experience and ability than our current crop of loose heads. If we can get someone like Hodgman, I’d be happy.

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                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                        @stargazer I rate Mafileo higher tbh and I’m pretty sure the Canes do aswell. If it wasn’t for his injury he would have been in the 23 over Rakete-Stones.

                        Rakete-Stones got rolled last night and looked fairly average tbh. In a game you’d expect him to dominate, he didn’t and that won’t have done his chances any good with contracts up for grabs atm.

                        I don’t care where the prop comes from, the Canes should be going all out in finding someone that has more experience and ability than our current crop of loose heads. If we can get someone like Hodgman, I’d be happy.

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                        @canes4life You must have watched a different game last night. His opposite in the Samoan squad kept angling in, got one scrum over him at the beginning because of it, and then got penalised for it a few times. RS had the better of him for most of the game! You should listen less to the commentators, who had no clue.

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                          @canes4life You must have watched a different game last night. His opposite in the Samoan squad kept angling in, got one scrum over him at the beginning because of it, and then got penalised for it a few times. RS had the better of him for most of the game! You should listen less to the commentators, who had no clue.

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                          @stargazer I think you are looking at him through rainbow tinted glasses tbh. His performance was below average and at the end of the day he was the prop getting penalised. All I saw was another undersized Hurricanes forward who couldn’t make the step up when it mattered.

                          The Canes are going to be really good when we have all of Rakete-Stones, Blackwell, Prinsep, Kirifi and Gibson on the park at the same time… NOT.

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                            @stargazer I rate Mafileo higher tbh and I’m pretty sure the Canes do aswell. If it wasn’t for his injury he would have been in the 23 over Rakete-Stones.

                            Rakete-Stones got rolled last night and looked fairly average tbh. In a game you’d expect him to dominate, he didn’t and that won’t have done his chances any good with contracts up for grabs atm.

                            I don’t care where the prop comes from, the Canes should be going all out in finding someone that has more experience and ability than our current crop of loose heads. If we can get someone like Hodgman, I’d be happy.

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                            @canes4life said in Hurricanes 2021:

                            I don’t care where the prop comes from, the Canes should be going all out in finding someone that has more experience and ability than our current crop of loose heads. If we can get someone like Hodgman, I’d be happy.

                            Do you reckon we could send a scout over to Argentina and pick up a prop

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                              @canes4life said in Hurricanes 2021:

                              I don’t care where the prop comes from, the Canes should be going all out in finding someone that has more experience and ability than our current crop of loose heads. If we can get someone like Hodgman, I’d be happy.

                              Do you reckon we could send a scout over to Argentina and pick up a prop

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                              @mikey07 I certainly wouldn't be against it.

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                              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                @stargazer I think you are looking at him through rainbow tinted glasses tbh. His performance was below average and at the end of the day he was the prop getting penalised. All I saw was another undersized Hurricanes forward who couldn’t make the step up when it mattered.

                                The Canes are going to be really good when we have all of Rakete-Stones, Blackwell, Prinsep, Kirifi and Gibson on the park at the same time… NOT.

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                                @canes4life said in Hurricanes 2021:

                                @stargazer I think you are looking at him through rainbow tinted glasses tbh. His performance was below average and at the end of the day he was the prop getting penalised. All I saw was another undersized Hurricanes forward who couldn’t make the step up when it mattered.

                                The Canes are going to be really good when we have all of Rakete-Stones, Blackwell, Prinsep, Kirifi and Gibson on the park at the same time… NOT.

                                He's 118kg. He's not the biggest prop, but he's not exactly small.

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                                  Worse kept secret in the world Vince Aso to Panasonic Wild Knights

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                                    Looks like one good propping prospect on the horizon in Joseph Gavigan.

                                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/gavigan-makes-new-zealand-under-20s-rugby-team/NECB4RHFGCC5AGZ7BQ3QG55M6U/?fbclid=IwAR29tiClZ28vqx78ytFcB6v9LYi1VA6KgyDxgneF-QwpXGRXXe9TL0OGnZo

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                                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                      Looks like one good propping prospect on the horizon in Joseph Gavigan.

                                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/gavigan-makes-new-zealand-under-20s-rugby-team/NECB4RHFGCC5AGZ7BQ3QG55M6U/?fbclid=IwAR29tiClZ28vqx78ytFcB6v9LYi1VA6KgyDxgneF-QwpXGRXXe9TL0OGnZo

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                                      @canes4life said in Hurricanes 2021:

                                      There have been a couple of "good prospects" over the years. Sadly not all of them (no names mentioned!) make the ultimate step up.

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                                        @canes4life said in Hurricanes 2021:

                                        There have been a couple of "good prospects" over the years. Sadly not all of them (no names mentioned!) make the ultimate step up.

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                                        @higgins let’s hope he can take that next step. Not bad for a small town boy.

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                                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                          @higgins let’s hope he can take that next step. Not bad for a small town boy.

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                                          @canes4life And not going to a "big name" rugby school too boot.

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