Tour De France 2021
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@stargazer said in Tour De France 2021:
Tbh, I'm more worried about stray dogs crossing the road.
My most constant fear on the motorbike is random fucking animals.
Even after seeing motorists pull out in front of me, feeling the tyres slide on stupid-slippery concrete, feeling the bike go all "aquaplaning" at 100kph on shiny roads in fucking Uzbekistan, and just pure personal incompetence at taking corners.
Fucking animals.
And birds - if you're one of those straight-up-idiots who don't think birds are part of the animal kingdom.@kruse said in Tour De France 2021:
@stargazer said in Tour De France 2021:
Tbh, I'm more worried about stray dogs crossing the road.
My most constant fear on the motorbike is random fucking animals.
Even after seeing motorists pull out in front of me, feeling the tyres slide on stupid-slippery concrete, feeling the bike go all "aquaplaning" at 100kph on shiny roads in fucking Uzbekistan, and just pure personal incompetence at taking corners.
Fucking animals.
And birds - if you're one of those straight-up-idiots who don't think birds are part of the animal kingdom.Twilight on country roads can be terrifying. Kangaroos coming out of nowhere. Bigger, faster and dumber than sheep.
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@kruse said in Tour De France 2021:
@stargazer said in Tour De France 2021:
Tbh, I'm more worried about stray dogs crossing the road.
My most constant fear on the motorbike is random fucking animals.
Even after seeing motorists pull out in front of me, feeling the tyres slide on stupid-slippery concrete, feeling the bike go all "aquaplaning" at 100kph on shiny roads in fucking Uzbekistan, and just pure personal incompetence at taking corners.
Fucking animals.
And birds - if you're one of those straight-up-idiots who don't think birds are part of the animal kingdom.Twilight on country roads can be terrifying. Kangaroos coming out of nowhere. Bigger, faster and dumber than sheep.
@antipodean said in Tour De France 2021:
@kruse said in Tour De France 2021:
@stargazer said in Tour De France 2021:
Tbh, I'm more worried about stray dogs crossing the road.
My most constant fear on the motorbike is random fucking animals.
Even after seeing motorists pull out in front of me, feeling the tyres slide on stupid-slippery concrete, feeling the bike go all "aquaplaning" at 100kph on shiny roads in fucking Uzbekistan, and just pure personal incompetence at taking corners.
Fucking animals.
And birds - if you're one of those straight-up-idiots who don't think birds are part of the animal kingdom.Twilight on country roads can be terrifying. Kangaroos coming out of nowhere. Bigger, faster and dumber than sheep.
Fucking birds. In my mind - I know that they're tiny, and couldn't do much damage - but I just shudder to think of one hitting me in the head, me flinching, and shit going wrong.
Then my brain says "nah - they'll never hit you, they're quick agile little fuckers, they'd never LET you hit them". And then I remember all the dead birds you see on the road. And then I remember that I DID hit 3 of the little shits on my London-Beijing ride. And then I remember hitting a bloody pheasant, or grouse, or whatever - whichever the biggest of the UK game birds is - on a country road in England. I was bloody lucky I hit it dead centre - body-mass smack in the chest, headbutt to the helmet. That muthafucka was big enough that if it had hit a handlebar, or maybe even an arm, I'd have been down.
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@antipodean said in Tour De France 2021:
@kruse said in Tour De France 2021:
@stargazer said in Tour De France 2021:
Tbh, I'm more worried about stray dogs crossing the road.
My most constant fear on the motorbike is random fucking animals.
Even after seeing motorists pull out in front of me, feeling the tyres slide on stupid-slippery concrete, feeling the bike go all "aquaplaning" at 100kph on shiny roads in fucking Uzbekistan, and just pure personal incompetence at taking corners.
Fucking animals.
And birds - if you're one of those straight-up-idiots who don't think birds are part of the animal kingdom.Twilight on country roads can be terrifying. Kangaroos coming out of nowhere. Bigger, faster and dumber than sheep.
Fucking birds. In my mind - I know that they're tiny, and couldn't do much damage - but I just shudder to think of one hitting me in the head, me flinching, and shit going wrong.
Then my brain says "nah - they'll never hit you, they're quick agile little fuckers, they'd never LET you hit them". And then I remember all the dead birds you see on the road. And then I remember that I DID hit 3 of the little shits on my London-Beijing ride. And then I remember hitting a bloody pheasant, or grouse, or whatever - whichever the biggest of the UK game birds is - on a country road in England. I was bloody lucky I hit it dead centre - body-mass smack in the chest, headbutt to the helmet. That muthafucka was big enough that if it had hit a handlebar, or maybe even an arm, I'd have been down.
Fucking birds.@kruse said in Tour De France 2021:
@antipodean said in Tour De France 2021:
@kruse said in Tour De France 2021:
@stargazer said in Tour De France 2021:
Tbh, I'm more worried about stray dogs crossing the road.
My most constant fear on the motorbike is random fucking animals.
Even after seeing motorists pull out in front of me, feeling the tyres slide on stupid-slippery concrete, feeling the bike go all "aquaplaning" at 100kph on shiny roads in fucking Uzbekistan, and just pure personal incompetence at taking corners.
Fucking animals.
And birds - if you're one of those straight-up-idiots who don't think birds are part of the animal kingdom.Twilight on country roads can be terrifying. Kangaroos coming out of nowhere. Bigger, faster and dumber than sheep.
Fucking birds. In my mind - I know that they're tiny, and couldn't do much damage - but I just shudder to think of one hitting me in the head, me flinching, and shit going wrong.
Then my brain says "nah - they'll never hit you, they're quick agile little fuckers, they'd never LET you hit them". And then I remember all the dead birds you see on the road. And then I remember that I DID hit 3 of the little shits on my London-Beijing ride. And then I remember hitting a bloody pheasant, or grouse, or whatever - whichever the biggest of the UK game birds is - on a country road in England. I was bloody lucky I hit it dead centre - body-mass smack in the chest, headbutt to the helmet. That muthafucka was big enough that if it had hit a handlebar, or maybe even an arm, I'd have been down.
Fucking birds.I'd like the bird's opinion on bike riders before making judgement here
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Absolute chaos on TDF today.
Rog, Pog and Thomas all lose time with some serious road rash for heaps of riders.
Calendar Ewan out after breaking his collarbone in the final sprint too.
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Absolute chaos on TDF today.
Rog, Pog and Thomas all lose time with some serious road rash for heaps of riders.
Calendar Ewan out after breaking his collarbone in the final sprint too.
@davesofthunder Roglic has lost nearly a minute on Pogacar and 30 seconds to Geraint Thomas - Thomas apparently dislocated his shoulder, which might come back to haunt him.
Some harsh words from the Groupama Director - maybe the organizers will have to sue themselves?
Saturday’s (Sunday NZT) opening stage was marred by two big pileups – one caused by a spectator – and the latest brutal scenes prompted veteran sports director Marc Madiot from Groupama FDJ team to lash out over the lack of safety on the road.
“Tonight, I don’t want to see my son become a professional rider,” Madiot said at the finish in the town of Pontivy.
“My wife does not want to see my son on a bike. It’s been years that we are talking about [safety], we need to find solutions. It’s not bike racing any more. One day there will be dead people.”
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@davesofthunder Roglic has lost nearly a minute on Pogacar and 30 seconds to Geraint Thomas - Thomas apparently dislocated his shoulder, which might come back to haunt him.
Some harsh words from the Groupama Director - maybe the organizers will have to sue themselves?
Saturday’s (Sunday NZT) opening stage was marred by two big pileups – one caused by a spectator – and the latest brutal scenes prompted veteran sports director Marc Madiot from Groupama FDJ team to lash out over the lack of safety on the road.
“Tonight, I don’t want to see my son become a professional rider,” Madiot said at the finish in the town of Pontivy.
“My wife does not want to see my son on a bike. It’s been years that we are talking about [safety], we need to find solutions. It’s not bike racing any more. One day there will be dead people.”
@chris-b Marc Madiot the biggest twat in cycling..
makes it sound like crashes like today haven't happened in the tour forever. So much pressure and every team going for the win just creates the perfect storm for crashes.
good luck solving it. Only real thing that might make a difference is if they move the neutral zone out to 8km like the riders want to get rid of the GC trains from the front which will leave more space for the sprinters.
On the race front.. I kinda wondered if Wout Van Aert might be a bit of a gc darkhorse.. defo not a climber but not much in the way of hilltop finishes this year.. think he'll be in yellow after first TT and will take a bit to dislodge him
Jumbo didn't call him back to tow up Rog after his stack so guessing they're thinking the same.
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@chris-b Marc Madiot the biggest twat in cycling..
makes it sound like crashes like today haven't happened in the tour forever. So much pressure and every team going for the win just creates the perfect storm for crashes.
good luck solving it. Only real thing that might make a difference is if they move the neutral zone out to 8km like the riders want to get rid of the GC trains from the front which will leave more space for the sprinters.
On the race front.. I kinda wondered if Wout Van Aert might be a bit of a gc darkhorse.. defo not a climber but not much in the way of hilltop finishes this year.. think he'll be in yellow after first TT and will take a bit to dislodge him
Jumbo didn't call him back to tow up Rog after his stack so guessing they're thinking the same.
this good - interesting insight and different from most peoples opinion!
https://cyclingtips.com/2021/06/the-secret-pro-tour-de-france-sagan/ -
this good - interesting insight and different from most peoples opinion!
https://cyclingtips.com/2021/06/the-secret-pro-tour-de-france-sagan/@williethewaiter said in Tour De France 2021:
this good - interesting insight and different from most peoples opinion!
https://cyclingtips.com/2021/06/the-secret-pro-tour-de-france-sagan/pretty handy article to read after the first couple of days have panned out like he said
never head that about Sagan before. Didn't he cause the sprint crash today?
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@williethewaiter said in Tour De France 2021:
this good - interesting insight and different from most peoples opinion!
https://cyclingtips.com/2021/06/the-secret-pro-tour-de-france-sagan/pretty handy article to read after the first couple of days have panned out like he said
never head that about Sagan before. Didn't he cause the sprint crash today?
@mariner4life said in Tour De France 2021:
@williethewaiter said in Tour De France 2021:
this good - interesting insight and different from most peoples opinion!
https://cyclingtips.com/2021/06/the-secret-pro-tour-de-france-sagan/pretty handy article to read after the first couple of days have panned out like he said
never head that about Sagan before. Didn't he cause the sprint crash today?
Ewan took him out. Comms were saying Ewan 'lost control' but it looked more like bad riding to me.
No need to punish him though as he came off worse with a broken collarbone. -
this good - interesting insight and different from most peoples opinion!
https://cyclingtips.com/2021/06/the-secret-pro-tour-de-france-sagan/@williethewaiter said in Tour De France 2021:
this good - interesting insight and different from most peoples opinion!
https://cyclingtips.com/2021/06/the-secret-pro-tour-de-france-sagan/I don't get his logic. Says Sagan is selfish because he has better skills than everyone else? WTF?
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this good - interesting insight and different from most peoples opinion!
https://cyclingtips.com/2021/06/the-secret-pro-tour-de-france-sagan/@williethewaiter said in Tour De France 2021:
this good - interesting insight and different from most peoples opinion!
https://cyclingtips.com/2021/06/the-secret-pro-tour-de-france-sagan/Interesting predictions - but, I'd say Ineos would already be reviewing Plans A&B after the crashes. Richie Porte is already 3 minutes down on Pogacar - and Thomas is going to be very sore, at best.
Those two might have been the planned team leaders, but I'd say Carapaz will be a bigger part of the equation now.
Long way to go, but I reckon the GC winner will come from Pog, Roglic and Thomas - and obviously advantage Pog at the moment.
I'd like to see Alaphilippe win it all, but he'd need a few others to fall over - literally.
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@williethewaiter said in Tour De France 2021:
this good - interesting insight and different from most peoples opinion!
https://cyclingtips.com/2021/06/the-secret-pro-tour-de-france-sagan/Interesting predictions - but, I'd say Ineos would already be reviewing Plans A&B after the crashes. Richie Porte is already 3 minutes down on Pogacar - and Thomas is going to be very sore, at best.
Those two might have been the planned team leaders, but I'd say Carapaz will be a bigger part of the equation now.
Long way to go, but I reckon the GC winner will come from Pog, Roglic and Thomas - and obviously advantage Pog at the moment.
I'd like to see Alaphilippe win it all, but he'd need a few others to fall over - literally.
@chris-b said in Tour De France 2021:
@williethewaiter said in Tour De France 2021:
this good - interesting insight and different from most peoples opinion!
https://cyclingtips.com/2021/06/the-secret-pro-tour-de-france-sagan/Interesting predictions - but, I'd say Ineos would already be reviewing Plans A&B after the crashes. Richie Porte is already 3 minutes down on Pogacar - and Thomas is going to be very sore, at best.
Those two might have been the planned team leaders, but I'd say Carapaz will be a bigger part of the equation now.
Long way to go, but I reckon the GC winner will come from Pog, Roglic and Thomas - and obviously advantage Pog at the moment.
I'd like to see Alaphilippe win it all, but he'd need a few others to fall over - literally.
Maybe the lady in the yellow jacket is a big Alaphilippe fan?
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@chris-b said in Tour De France 2021:
@williethewaiter said in Tour De France 2021:
this good - interesting insight and different from most peoples opinion!
https://cyclingtips.com/2021/06/the-secret-pro-tour-de-france-sagan/Interesting predictions - but, I'd say Ineos would already be reviewing Plans A&B after the crashes. Richie Porte is already 3 minutes down on Pogacar - and Thomas is going to be very sore, at best.
Those two might have been the planned team leaders, but I'd say Carapaz will be a bigger part of the equation now.
Long way to go, but I reckon the GC winner will come from Pog, Roglic and Thomas - and obviously advantage Pog at the moment.
I'd like to see Alaphilippe win it all, but he'd need a few others to fall over - literally.
Maybe the lady in the yellow jacket is a big Alaphilippe fan?
@canefan said in Tour De France 2021:
@chris-b said in Tour De France 2021:
@williethewaiter said in Tour De France 2021:
this good - interesting insight and different from most peoples opinion!
https://cyclingtips.com/2021/06/the-secret-pro-tour-de-france-sagan/Interesting predictions - but, I'd say Ineos would already be reviewing Plans A&B after the crashes. Richie Porte is already 3 minutes down on Pogacar - and Thomas is going to be very sore, at best.
Those two might have been the planned team leaders, but I'd say Carapaz will be a bigger part of the equation now.
Long way to go, but I reckon the GC winner will come from Pog, Roglic and Thomas - and obviously advantage Pog at the moment.
I'd like to see Alaphilippe win it all, but he'd need a few others to fall over - literally.
Maybe the lady in the yellow jacket is a big Alaphilippe fan?
Maybe she's a South African waitress named Suzy?
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@davesofthunder Roglic has lost nearly a minute on Pogacar and 30 seconds to Geraint Thomas - Thomas apparently dislocated his shoulder, which might come back to haunt him.
Some harsh words from the Groupama Director - maybe the organizers will have to sue themselves?
Saturday’s (Sunday NZT) opening stage was marred by two big pileups – one caused by a spectator – and the latest brutal scenes prompted veteran sports director Marc Madiot from Groupama FDJ team to lash out over the lack of safety on the road.
“Tonight, I don’t want to see my son become a professional rider,” Madiot said at the finish in the town of Pontivy.
“My wife does not want to see my son on a bike. It’s been years that we are talking about [safety], we need to find solutions. It’s not bike racing any more. One day there will be dead people.”
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Totally stoked for Mark Cavendish today.
Something great about seeing someone roll back the years
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@chris-b
Worth noting most of the crashes in day 3 were rider error rather than the course though
@davesofthunder said in Tour De France 2021:
@chris-b
Worth noting most of the crashes in day 3 were rider error rather than the course though
I guess - in a way - they always are.
Course designers job is to reduce the chance of those errors. However, as Willie notes - that's not easy.
For whatever reason, there's been too many crashes at the start of this one though - it's quite severely affected the GC race - removed a number of plotlines.
Interesting to see the riders themselves having a protest at the start.
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Stage 3 was pretty fucked though, the narrow winding sections leading in to the finish was always a risk
The riders and the teams need to take some responsibility. If you are going to send absolutely everyone to the front, not just the sprinters, then that's where the bunching happens, and as the pace and jostling increases their is only one outcome to be had.
