All Blacks v Tonga
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@tim said in All Blacks v Tonga:
NZ TAB has the spread at 79.5 points. If the weather's good they should cover that easily.
Opened at 73.5 mate.....quick to snap that up
@jk said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@tim said in All Blacks v Tonga:
NZ TAB has the spread at 79.5 points. If the weather's good they should cover that easily.
Opened at 73.5 mate.....quick to snap that up
And the -99.5 at $9 was a steal too on reflection! Think it closed around $6-7
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@chris-b said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@pukunui said in All Blacks v Tonga:
The fact he was given a rating of 9 in that player rating article just demonstrates the poor quality of journalism in NZ.
Though to be frank, it's more accurate than the collective pile-in that went on on here. Reading this thread you would have thought you were watching a meltdown of Colin Farrell proportions.
Yeah maybe, but a group of unpaid, old/youth adjacent blokes posing as experts on an internet forum should be given a bit more slack than someone claiming to be a sports journalist.
A 5 or 6 is probably fair when compared to what others got.
So the score of 9 was 3-4 too high.
Tsf probably 3-4 too low if the comments reflect a score of 1 or 2.@pukunui said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@chris-b said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@pukunui said in All Blacks v Tonga:
The fact he was given a rating of 9 in that player rating article just demonstrates the poor quality of journalism in NZ.
Though to be frank, it's more accurate than the collective pile-in that went on on here. Reading this thread you would have thought you were watching a meltdown of Colin Farrell proportions.
Yeah maybe, but a group of unpaid, old/youth adjacent blokes posing as experts on an internet forum should be given a bit more slack than someone claiming to be a sports journalist.
A 5 or 6 is probably fair when compared to what others got.
So the score of 9 was 3-4 too high.
Tsf probably 3-4 too low if the comments reflect a score of 1 or 2.He was given Equal lowest 6 on the stuff version
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Well was a game of popcorn rugby in the end and felt rather sorry for Tonga. you would hope that things might change in the future so they can field their best team but unfortunately we all know that wont happen anytime soon...
Things just went from bad to worse for Tonga and for some reason kept kicking the ball when they couldn't even win their own lineouts - let alone one against the throw.
Hard to take much out of it for the AB's but I was impressed by the forwards ability to offload and despite the dreadful tackling the support play was excellent, someone would make a break and there would be 3,4,5 players there in support.
Good to see young players get a go and perform and while you can say "it's a good start" we still have no idea how they will perform under pressure.
Good mental strength from the AB's to keep the donut, which is probably the most pleasing aspect of the game you can take out of a game like that..
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Well was a game of popcorn rugby in the end and felt rather sorry for Tonga. you would hope that things might change in the future so they can field their best team but unfortunately we all know that wont happen anytime soon...
Things just went from bad to worse for Tonga and for some reason kept kicking the ball when they couldn't even win their own lineouts - let alone one against the throw.
Hard to take much out of it for the AB's but I was impressed by the forwards ability to offload and despite the dreadful tackling the support play was excellent, someone would make a break and there would be 3,4,5 players there in support.
Good to see young players get a go and perform and while you can say "it's a good start" we still have no idea how they will perform under pressure.
Good mental strength from the AB's to keep the donut, which is probably the most pleasing aspect of the game you can take out of a game like that..
@windows97 said in All Blacks v Tonga:
Good to see young players get a go and perform and while you can say "it's a good start" we still have no idea how they will perform under pressure.
True. Even I couldn't find a reason to really shit on Finlay's debut. But all players should've performed well given the unfortunate state off the opposition.
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@mn5 said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@mikethesnow said in All Blacks v Tonga:
Scroll up. I already shared this.
Oh, so NOW you're all anti- people posting images that other people have already done?
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@mn5 said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@mikethesnow said in All Blacks v Tonga:
Scroll up. I already shared this.
Fuck I went back over 100 posts
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@mn5 said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@mikethesnow said in All Blacks v Tonga:
Scroll up. I already shared this.
Oh, so NOW you're all anti- people posting images that other people have already done?
@kruse said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@mn5 said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@mikethesnow said in All Blacks v Tonga:
Scroll up. I already shared this.
Oh, so NOW you're all anti- people posting images that other people have already done?
At least it wasn't that mike had already shared it...
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@mn5 said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@mikethesnow said in All Blacks v Tonga:
Scroll up. I already shared this.
Oh, so NOW you're all anti- people posting images that other people have already done?
@kruse said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@mn5 said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@mikethesnow said in All Blacks v Tonga:
Scroll up. I already shared this.
Oh, so NOW you're all anti- people posting images that other people have already done?
I’m glad you see the irony….anyway don’t you have movies to watch ?
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@kruse said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@mn5 said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@mikethesnow said in All Blacks v Tonga:
Scroll up. I already shared this.
Oh, so NOW you're all anti- people posting images that other people have already done?
I’m glad you see the irony….anyway don’t you have movies to watch ?
@mn5 said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@kruse said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@mn5 said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@mikethesnow said in All Blacks v Tonga:
Scroll up. I already shared this.
Oh, so NOW you're all anti- people posting images that other people have already done?
I’m glad you see the irony….anyway don’t you have movies to watch ?
<shoulders slump>.... yeah, I watched fucking Primal last night. I need some time to recover my wits, so to speak.
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I think the coments from the Tongan management need to be read by a fair few people https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300349673/why-tongan-rugby-players-paid-for-quarantine-costs-ahead-of-all-blacks-test
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I think the coments from the Tongan management need to be read by a fair few people https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300349673/why-tongan-rugby-players-paid-for-quarantine-costs-ahead-of-all-blacks-test
@machpants happy to hear NZR helped out and full credit to those players that are paying for quarantine out f their own pocket jst for the honour of playing for their nation
pretty shit thats how bad things are for the PI national teams
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I think the coments from the Tongan management need to be read by a fair few people https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300349673/why-tongan-rugby-players-paid-for-quarantine-costs-ahead-of-all-blacks-test
@machpants you gotta love Stuff that the photo they use of Ben T is him getting a YC 6 years ago for the Mooloo.
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@machpants you gotta love Stuff that the photo they use of Ben T is him getting a YC 6 years ago for the Mooloo.
@act-crusader said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@machpants you gotta love Stuff that the photo they use of Ben T is him getting a YC 6 years ago for the Mooloo.
Could get a piccy from the isolation hotel!
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Some thoughts on this game and the ABs in general after just getting around to watching this game.
Bridge - I would love him to be a better finisher, but I think the coaches would have been happy with his game if I am right about the way they are wanting to play.
The back three as a collective appeared to have expanded roles. We saw a continuation of the duel playmaker system with McKenzie continuing to pop up at first receiver. What I think has been expanded upon, and why the likes of Bridge have been selected, is we are seeing three fullbacks as opposed to the two fullback and wing thingy we have seen in the past. We saw Bridge and Jordan popping up in positions on attack that we would normally see the fullback occupy. This would also explain Reece, who also plays this role at the Crusaders. Apart from Nareki as a long shot, I don't see any other currently available wing in NZ showing they can play this way despite being better 'finishers' than Bridge. And as @Crucial mentioned in the AB thread, we saw loosies (mainly Papalii and AI) hovering on the 'wing' which suggests they are happy for players to take the contact rather than pinning their ears back and risk getting sent into touch.
I think J Barrett and Jordan are now in a shoot out for the 14 jumper, unless JB shows he can play the second playmaker role as well as McKenzie or BB (unless of course they decide BB is the best bet at 10 which wouldn't surprise me).
As for the forwards, who knows? Not really a game we can gather too much intel from.
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Some thoughts on this game and the ABs in general after just getting around to watching this game.
Bridge - I would love him to be a better finisher, but I think the coaches would have been happy with his game if I am right about the way they are wanting to play.
The back three as a collective appeared to have expanded roles. We saw a continuation of the duel playmaker system with McKenzie continuing to pop up at first receiver. What I think has been expanded upon, and why the likes of Bridge have been selected, is we are seeing three fullbacks as opposed to the two fullback and wing thingy we have seen in the past. We saw Bridge and Jordan popping up in positions on attack that we would normally see the fullback occupy. This would also explain Reece, who also plays this role at the Crusaders. Apart from Nareki as a long shot, I don't see any other currently available wing in NZ showing they can play this way despite being better 'finishers' than Bridge. And as @Crucial mentioned in the AB thread, we saw loosies (mainly Papalii and AI) hovering on the 'wing' which suggests they are happy for players to take the contact rather than pinning their ears back and risk getting sent into touch.
I think J Barrett and Jordan are now in a shoot out for the 14 jumper, unless JB shows he can play the second playmaker role as well as McKenzie or BB (unless of course they decide BB is the best bet at 10 which wouldn't surprise me).
As for the forwards, who knows? Not really a game we can gather too much intel from.
@crazy-horse said in All Blacks v Tonga:
I think J Barrett and Jordan are now in a shoot out for the 14 jumper, unless JB shows he can play the second playmaker role as well as McKenzie or BB (unless of course they decide BB is the best bet at 10 which wouldn't surprise me).
So the coaches have narrowed down 15 to 3 people (and another 2 fullbacks could be playing out of position). Brilliant stuff. If DM moved to 9 that would have most of the backline as converted fullbacks.
You are right I think re: Bridge. The coaches like him and the role he plays. -
@act-crusader said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@machpants you gotta love Stuff that the photo they use of Ben T is him getting a YC 6 years ago for the Mooloo.
Could get a piccy from the isolation hotel!
@machpants said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@act-crusader said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@machpants you gotta love Stuff that the photo they use of Ben T is him getting a YC 6 years ago for the Mooloo.
Could get a piccy from the isolation hotel!
They don't have a big enough lens to fit Ben T inside an interior shot.
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@crazy-horse said in All Blacks v Tonga:
I think J Barrett and Jordan are now in a shoot out for the 14 jumper, unless JB shows he can play the second playmaker role as well as McKenzie or BB (unless of course they decide BB is the best bet at 10 which wouldn't surprise me).
So the coaches have narrowed down 15 to 3 people (and another 2 fullbacks could be playing out of position). Brilliant stuff. If DM moved to 9 that would have most of the backline as converted fullbacks.
You are right I think re: Bridge. The coaches like him and the role he plays.@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@crazy-horse said in All Blacks v Tonga:
I think J Barrett and Jordan are now in a shoot out for the 14 jumper, unless JB shows he can play the second playmaker role as well as McKenzie or BB (unless of course they decide BB is the best bet at 10 which wouldn't surprise me).
So the coaches have narrowed down 15 to 3 people (and another 2 fullbacks could be playing out of position). Brilliant stuff. If DM moved to 9 that would have most of the backline as converted fullbacks.
You are right I think re: Bridge. The coaches like him and the role he plays.Obviously not in know, but it wouldn't surprise me if it's an expansion of the trend we are seeing around having multi skilled players (forwards and backs) capable of playing different roles. For now the days of having a fast dude standing around on the wing waiting to pin his ears back and gone. High work rate seems to be valued very highly no matter the position.
Obviously in a perfect world we have have a wing capable of doing both.
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@crazy-horse said in All Blacks v Tonga:
I think J Barrett and Jordan are now in a shoot out for the 14 jumper, unless JB shows he can play the second playmaker role as well as McKenzie or BB (unless of course they decide BB is the best bet at 10 which wouldn't surprise me).
So the coaches have narrowed down 15 to 3 people (and another 2 fullbacks could be playing out of position). Brilliant stuff. If DM moved to 9 that would have most of the backline as converted fullbacks.
You are right I think re: Bridge. The coaches like him and the role he plays.@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@crazy-horse said in All Blacks v Tonga:
I think J Barrett and Jordan are now in a shoot out for the 14 jumper, unless JB shows he can play the second playmaker role as well as McKenzie or BB (unless of course they decide BB is the best bet at 10 which wouldn't surprise me).
So the coaches have narrowed down 15 to 3 people (and another 2 fullbacks could be playing out of position). Brilliant stuff. If DM moved to 9 that would have most of the backline as converted fullbacks.
You are right I think re: Bridge. The coaches like him and the role he plays.Except at centre at least
