Electric Vehicles
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@antipodean said in Electric Vehicles:
Not sure they've been paying attention to what's happened to "cooperative Federalism" lately. No State is going to willingly hand those powers to the Federal government.
I don't think it is suggestion change in power - just alignment of process. The states probably won't lose any revenue under most options.
All the states have pretty much some form of stamp or transfer duty, but the rates are sometimes stupidly configured.
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@jc said in Electric Vehicles:
@nzzp So what are your thoughts on PHEVs? Living here in the Bay a full BEV seems a bit risky so far as there aren't a great number of charge points on the way north, so I'm thinking about a petrol hybrid.
I honestly don't know enough. You can see them as having the benefits of both, or the negatives of both.
I know some folk with a plug in hybrid, and it's pretty good for them - they do electric around town, and hybrid on the open road. Compromises the boot space, though. Not sure how it would stack up against a Prius by itself.
So don't really know
You still ahve the maintenance on a motor, but it's got the range, etc. Look at your trips, and how many km you do in your typical trips.Assume you mean Bay of Islands. Great spot, will be up in a week or so for a midwinter escape... better have good weather
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@dogmeat Theoretically. I had the experience of being a passenger in a car when the only charger at Te Haroto was offline. The driver was as stressed out as I've ever seen a driver and we ended up going back to Napier. Fuck that, I'll wait until there's a few more.
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@jc We drove through there 4 weeks ago and it looked like there's three chargers there?
So the signs at Taupo that say chargers every 30 kms aren't right?
Apologies for massive thread diversion but I keep reading stuff about 42% of survey respondents don't feel safe on the streets of Napier after dark and big big problems with aggressive homeless and gang members around Clive Square?
I do agree there's been an increase in the number of beggars but I wondered all over Napier after dark through the square in and out of all the bars and didn't see any sign of aggro or feel in any way threatened. Are people in the Bay getting soft or did I miss something?
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@nzzp Gedoudahere with your Bay of Islands. I mean the proper Bay, the Hawkes one.
I'm looking to buy new so I don't really care about the maintenance part as that is covered in the service plan. I commute from Napier to Hastings (which I would use electric for) but drive to Auckland about every 6 weeks or so. I have no patience for waiting for charging points / charging.
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@dogmeat There is a charger at Te Haroto about 50kms out from Napier. There's supposed to be another one going in at Rangitaiki but I don't know if it's there yet. My experience was that the Te Haroto site was offline. I don't know if that meant out of order or something else. But the lady who was driving was freaking out, partly because the hilly, windy road meant the consumption was a lot more than you'd normally expect I imagine.
TBH it reminded me of my younger days when we used to carry a 5 gallon jerry can in the boot for the times when we'd get have to go into the wop wops. I'm too old for range anxiety!
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@dogmeat said in Electric Vehicles:
@jc We drove through there 4 weeks ago and it looked like there's three chargers there?
Apologies for massive thread diversion but I keep reading stuff about 42% of survey respondents don't feel safe on the streets of Napier after dark and big big problems with aggressive homeless and gang members around Clive Square?
I do agree there's been an increase in the number of beggars but I wondered all over Napier after dark through the square in and out of all the bars and didn't see any sign of aggro or feel in any way threatened. Are people in the Bay getting soft or did I miss something?
There's definitely an increasing Mob presence throughout the Bay. I understand their members have bought up a lot of the properties around Takapau and Waikupurau has a bit of a problem. Hastings is the Mob's birthplace so no surprises they are still around there.
Napier has seen a few incidents with gang violence recently, with drive-by shootings at the medical centre, gang brawls at a park in Taradale, and a couple of other shootings. In town seems to be OK but Ahuriri can get a bit ugly apparently. I have to say I don't feel that threatened, but my young niece and nephews and their friends are very wary when they go out at night. They won't go to the bars at all and they are very secretive about house parties etc. And there are suburbs where they simply won't go. Sad really. It makes me wonder how bad it must be for some of the people who live in the less affluent areas.
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I thought that Napier (the nightlife, not the general crime) has been that way for at least 20 years now?
We did a bit of fighting both there and in Havelock in my school days ... but that was usually stuff spilling over from other things, not from just being in the city.
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@nepia I don't honestly know if it was the same then I wasn't here until 7 years ago. For people like me whose idea of a night out is going to a winery for dinner we're unlikely to come across any aggro, although a couple of gang members recently followed then beat up a random member of the public because his merging at a roundabout offended them.
But the Ahuriri area can be a bit wild-westy by all accounts. A few months back a bloke got shot in the cock (yes really! or as the media termed it "life changing injuries") by someone who I understand was a bit pissed off at getting bounced from a bar. There's often decent sized groups of young women heading down there so that's always going to attract some mouthbreathers.
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@jc said in Electric Vehicles:
So I pushed back against my luddite tendencies but couldn’t go the pure EV route. I got a PHEV hybrid that will do my commute for a couple of days on a charge (76km electric only range) so on a normal week I should use zero petrol. It’s a start I guess.
What flavor? We were looking at a Mitsubishi Outlander, and still might go down that route, but we are waiting to see the new model.
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@gt12 said in Electric Vehicles:
@jc said in Electric Vehicles:
So I pushed back against my luddite tendencies but couldn’t go the pure EV route. I got a PHEV hybrid that will do my commute for a couple of days on a charge (76km electric only range) so on a normal week I should use zero petrol. It’s a start I guess.
What flavor? We were looking at a Mitsubishi Outlander, and still might go down that route, but we are waiting to see the new model.
I thought the Outlander PHEV only did about 40km pure electric?
Probably would be enough for most of my regular trips but 76km sounds better.
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@nta said in Electric Vehicles:
@gt12 said in Electric Vehicles:
@jc said in Electric Vehicles:
So I pushed back against my luddite tendencies but couldn’t go the pure EV route. I got a PHEV hybrid that will do my commute for a couple of days on a charge (76km electric only range) so on a normal week I should use zero petrol. It’s a start I guess.
What flavor? We were looking at a Mitsubishi Outlander, and still might go down that route, but we are waiting to see the new model.
I thought the Outlander PHEV only did about 40km pure electric?
Probably would be enough for most of my regular trips but 76km sounds better.
Yeah, I think that's about right - we'd almost never need to use fuel for our daily driving here but would have it for trips to the snow, beach, in-laws.
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@gt12 said in Electric Vehicles:
@nta said in Electric Vehicles:
@gt12 said in Electric Vehicles:
@jc said in Electric Vehicles:
So I pushed back against my luddite tendencies but couldn’t go the pure EV route. I got a PHEV hybrid that will do my commute for a couple of days on a charge (76km electric only range) so on a normal week I should use zero petrol. It’s a start I guess.
What flavor? We were looking at a Mitsubishi Outlander, and still might go down that route, but we are waiting to see the new model.
I thought the Outlander PHEV only did about 40km pure electric?
Probably would be enough for most of my regular trips but 76km sounds better.
Yeah, I think that's about right - we'd almost never need to use fuel for our daily driving here but would have it for trips to the snow, beach, in-laws.
Towing!
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@machpants said in Electric Vehicles:
@gt12 said in Electric Vehicles:
@nta said in Electric Vehicles:
@gt12 said in Electric Vehicles:
@jc said in Electric Vehicles:
So I pushed back against my luddite tendencies but couldn’t go the pure EV route. I got a PHEV hybrid that will do my commute for a couple of days on a charge (76km electric only range) so on a normal week I should use zero petrol. It’s a start I guess.
What flavor? We were looking at a Mitsubishi Outlander, and still might go down that route, but we are waiting to see the new model.
I thought the Outlander PHEV only did about 40km pure electric?
Probably would be enough for most of my regular trips but 76km sounds better.
Yeah, I think that's about right - we'd almost never need to use fuel for our daily driving here but would have it for trips to the snow, beach, in-laws.
Towing!
1500kg braked towing limit I think, but we aren't caravaners.
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