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2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA

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    From the Lions website -
    The British & Irish Lions will play back-to-back matches against the Cell C Sharks to ensure the tourists can continue to prepare for the Test series against the Springboks later this month.

    SA Rugby and the Lions have agreed to replace the Vodacom Bulls with the Cell C Sharks at Loftus Versfeld on Saturday (kick-off 18h00 SAT, 17h00 BST), after the former was ruled out because of COVID-19 infections.

    The Lions beat the Cell C Sharks 54-7 at Emirates Airline Park in Johannesburg on Wednesday in the second match of the Castle Lager Lions Series. The tourists had opened their account at the same venue with a 56-14 victory over the Sigma Lions on Saturday.

    “The choice of the Cell C Sharks was dictated by the fact that they have been in a bubble, have returned negative tests throughout and were prepared to take on the fixture,” said Jurie Roux, CEO of SA Rugby.

    “No other team in the country could meet those conditions right now – without going into a five-day lockdown. It is not an ideal situation, but COVID-19 has made sure that we do not live in an ideal world.”

    The change has meant that the Cell C Sharks’ match against the Sigma Lions in the Carling Currie Cup on Saturday has been cancelled with a decision on the points allocation to be confirmed.

    “We’re very grateful to the Sharks for agreeing to play us again this Saturday at Loftus Versfeld,” said Lions managing director Ben Calveley.

    “We have further COVID-19 testing scheduled for today and tomorrow. The results of those tests will determine whether we will be able fulfil this fixture, but, as it stands, we are optimistic.

    “We remain committed to the Tour in South Africa and determined to rise to the challenges created by the COVID-19 pandemic.”

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    • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

      From the Lions website -
      The British & Irish Lions will play back-to-back matches against the Cell C Sharks to ensure the tourists can continue to prepare for the Test series against the Springboks later this month.

      SA Rugby and the Lions have agreed to replace the Vodacom Bulls with the Cell C Sharks at Loftus Versfeld on Saturday (kick-off 18h00 SAT, 17h00 BST), after the former was ruled out because of COVID-19 infections.

      The Lions beat the Cell C Sharks 54-7 at Emirates Airline Park in Johannesburg on Wednesday in the second match of the Castle Lager Lions Series. The tourists had opened their account at the same venue with a 56-14 victory over the Sigma Lions on Saturday.

      “The choice of the Cell C Sharks was dictated by the fact that they have been in a bubble, have returned negative tests throughout and were prepared to take on the fixture,” said Jurie Roux, CEO of SA Rugby.

      “No other team in the country could meet those conditions right now – without going into a five-day lockdown. It is not an ideal situation, but COVID-19 has made sure that we do not live in an ideal world.”

      The change has meant that the Cell C Sharks’ match against the Sigma Lions in the Carling Currie Cup on Saturday has been cancelled with a decision on the points allocation to be confirmed.

      “We’re very grateful to the Sharks for agreeing to play us again this Saturday at Loftus Versfeld,” said Lions managing director Ben Calveley.

      “We have further COVID-19 testing scheduled for today and tomorrow. The results of those tests will determine whether we will be able fulfil this fixture, but, as it stands, we are optimistic.

      “We remain committed to the Tour in South Africa and determined to rise to the challenges created by the COVID-19 pandemic.”

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      @daffy-jaffy said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

      From the Lions website -
      The British & Irish Lions will play back-to-back matches against the Cell C Sharks to ensure the tourists can continue to prepare for the Test series against the Springboks later this month.

      SA Rugby and the Lions have agreed to replace the Vodacom Bulls with the Cell C Sharks at Loftus Versfeld on Saturday (kick-off 18h00 SAT, 17h00 BST), after the former was ruled out because of COVID-19 infections.

      The Lions beat the Cell C Sharks 54-7 at Emirates Airline Park in Johannesburg on Wednesday in the second match of the Castle Lager Lions Series. The tourists had opened their account at the same venue with a 56-14 victory over the Sigma Lions on Saturday.

      “The choice of the Cell C Sharks was dictated by the fact that they have been in a bubble, have returned negative tests throughout and were prepared to take on the fixture,” said Jurie Roux, CEO of SA Rugby.

      “No other team in the country could meet those conditions right now – without going into a five-day lockdown. It is not an ideal situation, but COVID-19 has made sure that we do not live in an ideal world.”

      The change has meant that the Cell C Sharks’ match against the Sigma Lions in the Carling Currie Cup on Saturday has been cancelled with a decision on the points allocation to be confirmed.

      “We’re very grateful to the Sharks for agreeing to play us again this Saturday at Loftus Versfeld,” said Lions managing director Ben Calveley.

      “We have further COVID-19 testing scheduled for today and tomorrow. The results of those tests will determine whether we will be able fulfil this fixture, but, as it stands, we are optimistic.

      “We remain committed to the Tour in South Africa and determined to rise to the challenges created by the COVID-19 pandemic.”

      Given the situation, I wonder if they could expand the squad sizes to give more Lions players a run?

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        Marcus Smith to join the Lions in South Africa because Finn Russell is injured. Big call going for the English youngster ahead of Jonny Sexton:

        https://twitter.com/lionsofficial/status/1413877790231908355?s=19

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          Who painted Cory Jane to look like Anthony Watson?

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          • BonesB Online
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            That's pretty crap eh. Penalty to finish the match and Lions tap and kick out. Well I guess I'll support SA then...

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              https://mobile.twitter.com/RuaidhriOC/status/1414125622528512000

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                Squidge with some novel views, as usual:

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                  26 people have covid in the springbok camp, including 14 players

                  f7f6edd8-1c4e-469b-ab34-e037344d2cee-image.png

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                  • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                    26 people have covid in the springbok camp, including 14 players

                    f7f6edd8-1c4e-469b-ab34-e037344d2cee-image.png

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                    @daffy-jaffy

                    Why so many rugby professional players are not vaccinated ? This would have solved many problems IMO.

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                      You can be vaccinated and have Covid.

                      In other news there's not too much second string about the SA 'A' team for Wednesday

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                      To face:

                      *British and Irish Lions: Watson; Rees-Zammit, Harris, Aki, Adams; Biggar, Murray (capt); Jones, Owens, Sinckler, Itoje, Henderson, Navidi, Curry, Faletau.

                      Replacements: Cowan-Dickie, Vunipola, Fagerson, Beard, Beirne, Simmonds, Davies, Daly.*

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                        Should be a cracker

                        Could go either way, but momentum and match fitness is with the Lions.

                        Lions by 7-10

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                          You can be vaccinated and have Covid.

                          In other news there's not too much second string about the SA 'A' team for Wednesday

                          alt text

                          To face:

                          *British and Irish Lions: Watson; Rees-Zammit, Harris, Aki, Adams; Biggar, Murray (capt); Jones, Owens, Sinckler, Itoje, Henderson, Navidi, Curry, Faletau.

                          Replacements: Cowan-Dickie, Vunipola, Fagerson, Beard, Beirne, Simmonds, Davies, Daly.*

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                          @margin_walker said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

                          You can be vaccinated and have Covid.

                          In other news there's not too much second string about the SA 'A' team for Wednesday

                          alt text

                          To face:

                          *British and Irish Lions: Watson; Rees-Zammit, Harris, Aki, Adams; Biggar, Murray (capt); Jones, Owens, Sinckler, Itoje, Henderson, Navidi, Curry, Faletau.

                          Replacements: Cowan-Dickie, Vunipola, Fagerson, Beard, Beirne, Simmonds, Davies, Daly.*

                          First match together for Itoje and Henderson.

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                            @margin_walker said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

                            You can be vaccinated and have Covid.

                            In other news there's not too much second string about the SA 'A' team for Wednesday

                            alt text

                            To face:

                            *British and Irish Lions: Watson; Rees-Zammit, Harris, Aki, Adams; Biggar, Murray (capt); Jones, Owens, Sinckler, Itoje, Henderson, Navidi, Curry, Faletau.

                            Replacements: Cowan-Dickie, Vunipola, Fagerson, Beard, Beirne, Simmonds, Davies, Daly.*

                            First match together for Itoje and Henderson.

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                            @pakman said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

                            @margin_walker said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

                            You can be vaccinated and have Covid.

                            In other news there's not too much second string about the SA 'A' team for Wednesday

                            alt text

                            To face:

                            *British and Irish Lions: Watson; Rees-Zammit, Harris, Aki, Adams; Biggar, Murray (capt); Jones, Owens, Sinckler, Itoje, Henderson, Navidi, Curry, Faletau.

                            Replacements: Cowan-Dickie, Vunipola, Fagerson, Beard, Beirne, Simmonds, Davies, Daly.*

                            First match together for Itoje and Henderson.

                            Just keeping AWJ’s jersey warm by the looks of it

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                                If Wyn Jones is fit then he's starting
                                Mako's best game in yonks

                                Owens or LCD on a knife-edge

                                Furlong to start, Sinkler bench

                                Itoje and AWJ
                                Beard overtook Henderson for me

                                Curry, Watson, Faletau
                                Beirne, Simmonds on bench

                                Davies, Price
                                Murray was dreadful

                                Farrell was dreadful
                                Biggar if fit

                                LRZ and Watson played well
                                But it could easily be VDM and Adams

                                Aki was immense, could have played himself in
                                Harris got better as game went on
                                Henshaw in if fit

                                Hogg

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                                • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                  If Wyn Jones is fit then he's starting
                                  Mako's best game in yonks

                                  Owens or LCD on a knife-edge

                                  Furlong to start, Sinkler bench

                                  Itoje and AWJ
                                  Beard overtook Henderson for me

                                  Curry, Watson, Faletau
                                  Beirne, Simmonds on bench

                                  Davies, Price
                                  Murray was dreadful

                                  Farrell was dreadful
                                  Biggar if fit

                                  LRZ and Watson played well
                                  But it could easily be VDM and Adams

                                  Aki was immense, could have played himself in
                                  Harris got better as game went on
                                  Henshaw in if fit

                                  Hogg

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                                  @mikethesnow said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

                                  If Wyn Jones is fit then he's starting
                                  Mako's best game in yonks

                                  Yes but not enough for Mako as yet. Let's hope Jones' shoulder is all good.

                                  Owens or LCD on a knife-edge

                                  I thought George played pretty well on his start which was very pleasing but he is still third in line. Though if you start with LCD I'd be tempted to have George on the bench for what he brings around the field later on. If Owens is starting though then definitely LCD on the bench.

                                  Furlong to start, Sinkler bench

                                  100%

                                  Itoje and AWJ
                                  Beard overtook Henderson for me

                                  Big call re A-WJ, huge respect for the guy and you'd want him there, but I'd like to see him get a game under his belt first. But if not him then who to partner Itoje could be any of the three. Lawes has played very well in his games.

                                  Curry, Watson, Faletau
                                  Beirne, Simmonds on bench

                                  Hard to argue with that choice, Navidi could consider himself hard done by. Beirne could miss out on a bench spot to Lawes who can cover lock and 6. Would free up another place on the bench for a back (felt dirty saying that).

                                  Davies, Price
                                  Murray was dreadful

                                  I'm really concerned about scrum half. All three have had some pretty dire moments. I'd actually say that Price has been the best by a smidgen but the other two have better pedigree.

                                  Farrell was dreadful
                                  Biggar if fit

                                  I don't really agree re Farrell. The charge down was pretty average but then he was on the end of Murray's "service". The kick that went too long was sooo close to being brilliant so I can forgive him. For me his worse blunder was not clearing out De Allende from his offside running line in front of Nkosi for the try. He was never going to catch Nkosi so he may have just as well tried to draw the ref's attention to the matter. It will be close between him and Biggar.

                                  LRZ and Watson played well
                                  But it could easily be VDM and Adams

                                  I would go with the latter pairing. LRZ looks short of confidence to me and Watson is looking fragile.

                                  Aki was immense, could have played himself in
                                  Harris got better as game went on
                                  Henshaw in if fit

                                  Aki in at 12. 13 is a toss up. Earlier I would have said Harris had it in his pocket but that stray kick to Kolbe aside, Daly has looked a threat at 13, just don't let him anywhere near 15. Maybe Harris to start and Daly on the bench to cover centre and wing. Henshaw nowhere near selection other than on reputation. He's really not had much of a chance.

                                  Hogg

                                  Hard on Williams but yes.

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                                    Pretty happy from a South African perspective.

                                    Physicality and defence will keep us in any game. Most of the players look sharpish considering the disruptions in the build up.
                                    Tactically they showed fuckall, but that's to be expected in the context of the upcoming series - hopefully there is something held back for the test series.

                                    One concern relates to the form of the returning covid patients, Nkosi and Koch. Nkosi looked slooow on his run in and Koch is the first player to struggle with Vunipolo on this tour. Considering how important Malherbe, Mbonambi, De Jager, Kolisi, Pollard and Mapimpi are going to be for the test matches I really hope the after effects are not too serious.

                                    As for the "debutant"- Dweba and Wiese were good and Janse van Rensburg looked fine(though I would have gone with Schickerling). I also think Willemse confirmed his selection as utility back with another strong performance off the bench as 12.

                                    The only player to really stink was Elstadt with Nyakane struggling a bit in the scrums.

                                    Injury wise Le Roux and Wiese have niggles which is a little worrying cause changes at 8 and 15 will be very disruptive to type of game the boks would want to play in the tests.

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                                      Pretty happy from a South African perspective.

                                      Physicality and defence will keep us in any game. Most of the players look sharpish considering the disruptions in the build up.
                                      Tactically they showed fuckall, but that's to be expected in the context of the upcoming series - hopefully there is something held back for the test series.

                                      One concern relates to the form of the returning covid patients, Nkosi and Koch. Nkosi looked slooow on his run in and Koch is the first player to struggle with Vunipolo on this tour. Considering how important Malherbe, Mbonambi, De Jager, Kolisi, Pollard and Mapimpi are going to be for the test matches I really hope the after effects are not too serious.

                                      As for the "debutant"- Dweba and Wiese were good and Janse van Rensburg looked fine(though I would have gone with Schickerling). I also think Willemse confirmed his selection as utility back with another strong performance off the bench as 12.

                                      The only player to really stink was Elstadt with Nyakane struggling a bit in the scrums.

                                      Injury wise Le Roux and Wiese have niggles which is a little worrying cause changes at 8 and 15 will be very disruptive to type of game the boks would want to play in the tests.

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                                      @sidbarret

                                      Interesting that you rate Dweba. I thought he was very lucky not to get pinged for his throwing. Did he put any down the middle?

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                                        @catogrande I can't say I noticed anything about his throwing. I had the South African commentators here, but based on what I've read elsewhere, the British comms were "opinionated" about a lot of things in this game.

                                        What I liked was was two loose balls he recovered, a couple of strong tackles and some carries. There was an issue with hooking the ball at the scrum with our the ball getting stuck in scrum on our first two put-in.

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                                          The war of words between Warren Gatland and Rassie Erasmus has certainly begun with the Test series fast approaching.
                                          Speaking in Thursday’s press conference after naming his side to face the Stormers this Saturday, Gatland poked fun at Erasmus now balancing his job of being South Africa’s director of rugby with being their new water boy. Erasmus was seen on numerous occasions wearing an H2O vest, running onto the pitch giving instructions on Wednesday in his side’s victory over the Lions, but Gatland has highlighted that there was something fundamental he forgot.

                                          He said: “Last night, he was the water boy and running onto the pitch, but the thing is if you’re the water boy, you’ve got to make sure you’re carrying water. So I didn’t understand what his role was. You don’t run onto the pitch giving messages and stuff if you’re the water boy without carrying the water. So my advice to him is make sure he’s carrying water next time he does that.”

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