All Blacks vs Fiji 2
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@taniwharugby
like this lot
Kane Hames
Tim Perry
Jeffery Toomaga allen
Owen franks@ploughboy fair point, aside from Owen, the others are hardly players that had good AB careers...but I'd argue when we have been at our best, we dominated up front and at least 1 (usually 2 plus Owen who was a rock at scrumtime) of our front rowers has had superb all round skills
Now our front rows are barely dominant at one facet let alone all, although are some good signs so hopefully just a blip
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@mn5 I didn't recognise any of the songs. It was modern stuff, which the Pasifika crowd around me really got in to. Not the standard anthems much loved at the Sevens and other big matches at the venue. Did get a bit annoying at the start, but was great to see the multi-cultural crowd getting into it.
Got to say we loved it when the fire-blowers went up and warmed us all up in row E.
Don't understand why no ticket sales up in the old stand though...@arhs said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@mn5 I didn't recognise any of the songs. It was modern stuff, which the Pasifika crowd around me really got in to. Not the standard anthems much loved at the Sevens and other big matches at the venue. Did get a bit annoying at the start, but was great to see the multi-cultural crowd getting into it.
Yeah, the music was far too loud and annoying. It's never been that bad.
I assume someone from Mai FM in charge of the sounds as I wasn't familiar with the songs played either.
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One point not mentioned in this thread was that when Rieko came on to replace Jordan, Reece ran over to the right wing and Ioane was on the left. They soon switched sides so Ioane was on my side of the field. This must have been a directive from the coaches to try Rieko as a right winger. Either way, I'd be happy with this combo in Bled 1.
No idea why the covered WEL Network stand was not used. We were sitting in the uncovered section in front of this.
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One point not mentioned in this thread was that when Rieko came on to replace Jordan, Reece ran over to the right wing and Ioane was on the left. They soon switched sides so Ioane was on my side of the field. This must have been a directive from the coaches to try Rieko as a right winger. Either way, I'd be happy with this combo in Bled 1.
No idea why the covered WEL Network stand was not used. We were sitting in the uncovered section in front of this.
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@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
I’ll have to look out for Jacobson next time, I thought he was pretty invisible, frizell like, but all the plaudits he’s getting suggest otherwise
The old-timers used to have a saying along the lines of: "The best forward is often the one you don't notice and rarely gets mentioned in the commentary"
Akira was similarly good today - doing loads of grunt work.
I get it, it is hilarious though, if frizell went unnoticed he’d be getting lambasted
Did he go unnoticed though? Was driving players into touch, moving bodies in rucks, doing good work in the mauls and nothing made progress past him. A nice rip steal too, making up for an offside penalty just before.
Jacobson was the same, just shutting things down and continuously getting over the advantage line (Akira most notably for Saveas try).
It’s the physical starch that Frizzel has always promised but never delivered. Akira done it every time he’s played.
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
I’ll have to look out for Jacobson next time, I thought he was pretty invisible, frizell like, but all the plaudits he’s getting suggest otherwise
The old-timers used to have a saying along the lines of: "The best forward is often the one you don't notice and rarely gets mentioned in the commentary"
Akira was similarly good today - doing loads of grunt work.
I get it, it is hilarious though, if frizell went unnoticed he’d be getting lambasted
Did he go unnoticed though? Was driving players into touch, moving bodies in rucks, doing good work in the mauls and nothing made progress past him. A nice rip steal too, making up for an offside penalty just before.
Jacobson was the same, just shutting things down and continuously getting over the advantage line (Akira most notably for Saveas try).
It’s the physical starch that Frizzel has always promised but never delivered. Akira done it every time he’s played.
He did to me, even commented I had forgotten he was playing, so started looking for him and spotted him doing stuff but not game winning which was the level I expected from people’s comments, Already conceded I missed it rather than it didn’t happen,
was more specifically a reply to @Victor-Meldrew ’s analogy, and how it applies to some but frizell always gets criticised for not dominating, no one accepts he’s not doing the flash stuff, I even got told leading line takes and the sort (which he did a couple of times last year) isn’t enough
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@bovidae or give Reece more time on the left.
@crazy-horse said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@bovidae or give Reece more time on the left.
It’s a good way to build options there, let’s us move away from Bridge. And RI becomes very hand for the bench covering both wings and centre.
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@crazy-horse said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@bovidae or give Reece more time on the left.
It’s a good way to build options there, let’s us move away from Bridge. And RI becomes very hand for the bench covering both wings and centre.
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@crazy-horse said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@bovidae or give Reece more time on the left.
It’s a good way to build options there, let’s us move away from Bridge. And RI becomes very hand for the bench covering both wings and centre.
RI tends to carry the ball under his right arm anyway, so at least he doesn't have to make that adjustment.
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@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
I’ll have to look out for Jacobson next time, I thought he was pretty invisible, frizell like, but all the plaudits he’s getting suggest otherwise
The old-timers used to have a saying along the lines of: "The best forward is often the one you don't notice and rarely gets mentioned in the commentary"
Akira was similarly good today - doing loads of grunt work.
I get it, it is hilarious though, if frizell went unnoticed he’d be getting lambasted
I notice Frizell. Notice him having no impact at collisions. Built like Tarzan plays like Jane.
@frank haha I pulled that line out to my mate the other day about him funnily enough.
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@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
I’ll have to look out for Jacobson next time, I thought he was pretty invisible, frizell like, but all the plaudits he’s getting suggest otherwise
The old-timers used to have a saying along the lines of: "The best forward is often the one you don't notice and rarely gets mentioned in the commentary"
Akira was similarly good today - doing loads of grunt work.
I get it, it is hilarious though, if frizell went unnoticed he’d be getting lambasted
Did he go unnoticed though? Was driving players into touch, moving bodies in rucks, doing good work in the mauls and nothing made progress past him. A nice rip steal too, making up for an offside penalty just before.
Jacobson was the same, just shutting things down and continuously getting over the advantage line (Akira most notably for Saveas try).
It’s the physical starch that Frizzel has always promised but never delivered. Akira done it every time he’s played.
He did to me, even commented I had forgotten he was playing, so started looking for him and spotted him doing stuff but not game winning which was the level I expected from people’s comments, Already conceded I missed it rather than it didn’t happen,
was more specifically a reply to @Victor-Meldrew ’s analogy, and how it applies to some but frizell always gets criticised for not dominating, no one accepts he’s not doing the flash stuff, I even got told leading line takes and the sort (which he did a couple of times last year) isn’t enough
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
I’ll have to look out for Jacobson next time, I thought he was pretty invisible, frizell like, but all the plaudits he’s getting suggest otherwise
The old-timers used to have a saying along the lines of: "The best forward is often the one you don't notice and rarely gets mentioned in the commentary"
Akira was similarly good today - doing loads of grunt work.
I get it, it is hilarious though, if frizell went unnoticed he’d be getting lambasted
Did he go unnoticed though? Was driving players into touch, moving bodies in rucks, doing good work in the mauls and nothing made progress past him. A nice rip steal too, making up for an offside penalty just before.
Jacobson was the same, just shutting things down and continuously getting over the advantage line (Akira most notably for Saveas try).
It’s the physical starch that Frizzel has always promised but never delivered. Akira done it every time he’s played.
He did to me, even commented I had forgotten he was playing, so started looking for him and spotted him doing stuff but not game winning which was the level I expected from people’s comments, Already conceded I missed it rather than it didn’t happen,
was more specifically a reply to @Victor-Meldrew ’s analogy, and how it applies to some but frizell always gets criticised for not dominating, no one accepts he’s not doing the flash stuff, I even got told leading line takes and the sort (which he did a couple of times last year) isn’t enough
So did you notice Ioane winning lineouts? I don't think you mentioned that. And after awhile the Fijian forwards went out of their way not to run into Jacobson and Ioane. But my fave moment was Savea manhandling a Fiian forward with the ball while two Fijians held onto him and all 3 got pushed backwards. He really was physically on fire last night.
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@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
I’ll have to look out for Jacobson next time, I thought he was pretty invisible, frizell like, but all the plaudits he’s getting suggest otherwise
The old-timers used to have a saying along the lines of: "The best forward is often the one you don't notice and rarely gets mentioned in the commentary"
Akira was similarly good today - doing loads of grunt work.
I get it, it is hilarious though, if frizell went unnoticed he’d be getting lambasted
Did he go unnoticed though? Was driving players into touch, moving bodies in rucks, doing good work in the mauls and nothing made progress past him. A nice rip steal too, making up for an offside penalty just before.
Jacobson was the same, just shutting things down and continuously getting over the advantage line (Akira most notably for Saveas try).
It’s the physical starch that Frizzel has always promised but never delivered. Akira done it every time he’s played.
He did to me, even commented I had forgotten he was playing, so started looking for him and spotted him doing stuff but not game winning which was the level I expected from people’s comments, Already conceded I missed it rather than it didn’t happen,
was more specifically a reply to @Victor-Meldrew ’s analogy, and how it applies to some but frizell always gets criticised for not dominating, no one accepts he’s not doing the flash stuff, I even got told leading line takes and the sort (which he did a couple of times last year) isn’t enough
So did you notice Ioane winning lineouts? I don't think you mentioned that. And after awhile the Fijian forwards went out of their way not to run into Jacobson and Ioane. But my fave moment was Savea manhandling a Fiian forward with the ball while two Fijians held onto him and all 3 got pushed backwards. He really was physically on fire last night.
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
I’ll have to look out for Jacobson next time, I thought he was pretty invisible, frizell like, but all the plaudits he’s getting suggest otherwise
The old-timers used to have a saying along the lines of: "The best forward is often the one you don't notice and rarely gets mentioned in the commentary"
Akira was similarly good today - doing loads of grunt work.
I get it, it is hilarious though, if frizell went unnoticed he’d be getting lambasted
Did he go unnoticed though? Was driving players into touch, moving bodies in rucks, doing good work in the mauls and nothing made progress past him. A nice rip steal too, making up for an offside penalty just before.
Jacobson was the same, just shutting things down and continuously getting over the advantage line (Akira most notably for Saveas try).
It’s the physical starch that Frizzel has always promised but never delivered. Akira done it every time he’s played.
He did to me, even commented I had forgotten he was playing, so started looking for him and spotted him doing stuff but not game winning which was the level I expected from people’s comments, Already conceded I missed it rather than it didn’t happen,
was more specifically a reply to @Victor-Meldrew ’s analogy, and how it applies to some but frizell always gets criticised for not dominating, no one accepts he’s not doing the flash stuff, I even got told leading line takes and the sort (which he did a couple of times last year) isn’t enough
So did you notice Ioane winning lineouts? I don't think you mentioned that. And after awhile the Fijian forwards went out of their way not to run into Jacobson and Ioane. But my fave moment was Savea manhandling a Fiian forward with the ball while two Fijians held onto him and all 3 got pushed backwards. He really was physically on fire last night.
I did, but didn’t mention it because I haven’t been talking about ioane…if I had been…I would have
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@kiwiwomble what as pile of wank, drop the rule FFS.
@machpants said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@kiwiwomble what as pile of wank, drop the rule FFS.
God you will defend Ardie to the hilt over anything eh.
This is a guy who decided to wear a fucken action hero mask while playing, yet he can't don a mouthguard?
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@machpants said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@kiwiwomble what as pile of wank, drop the rule FFS.
God you will defend Ardie to the hilt over anything eh.
This is a guy who decided to wear a fucken action hero mask while playing, yet he can't don a mouthguard?
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@machpants said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@kiwiwomble what as pile of wank, drop the rule FFS.
God you will defend Ardie to the hilt over anything eh.
This is a guy who decided to wear a fucken action hero mask while playing, yet he can't don a mouthguard?
There is a little bit of a Streisand effect going on, would anybody have noticed if the players association hadn’t mentioned it?
I understand they want players to be role models for wearing them, but just make it a rule that refs enforce for kids. Not sure what they are achieving making ABs wear them.
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@Kirwan Ardie's mouthguard is pink so very visible if he isn't using it.
This has always been an issue and the players need to comply. The ref and officials could sort this out easy by making players leave the field if they don't wear a mouthguard. It is compulsory in the lower grades, and I've seen a player penalised for not having their mouthguard in.
Jordie is good at wearing his in his sock.
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@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@machpants said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@kiwiwomble what as pile of wank, drop the rule FFS.
God you will defend Ardie to the hilt over anything eh.
This is a guy who decided to wear a fucken action hero mask while playing, yet he can't don a mouthguard?
There is a little bit of a Streisand effect going on, would anybody have noticed if the players association hadn’t mentioned it?
I understand they want players to be role models for wearing them, but just make it a rule that refs enforce for kids. Not sure what they are achieving making ABs wear them.
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My feeling is if he’s said he will then he should…if he doesn’t think he should have too then fight for the right not too, it not compulsory from WR, they call it a collective agreement rather than an employment condition which makes me think there has been some discussion
@Rapido yeah, I’d still like to know what the deal was
@Yeetyaah how was it? Enjoy?
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@rapido said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
O8s there something wrong with old stand at Waikato Stadium? Why was it not used?
@WillieTheWaiter may be able to tell us.
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@kirwan yeah that's a good point! I don't have kids so you'd probably be better placed to judge what they notice (I imagine kids or machpants that idolise Ardie might notice no mouthguard).
@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:
@kirwan yeah that's a good point! I don't have kids so you'd probably be better placed to judge what they notice (I imagine kids or machpants that idolise Ardie might notice no mouthguard).
Nah, they wouldn’t. But both my kids never had a problem wearing them so it’s already a non issue. Specially as the girl plays hockey, which seems to be a game designed by dentists.
