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Stadium of Canterbury

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    just checking, is this 25k plus temp seating so 30k ish or grand total of 25k including temp seating?

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      just checking, is this 25k plus temp seating so 30k ish or grand total of 25k including temp seating?

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      Machpants
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      @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

      just checking, is this 25k plus temp seating so 30k ish or grand total of 25k including temp seating?

      I think it is 25k upto 27.5k with temporary

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        @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

        just checking, is this 25k plus temp seating so 30k ish or grand total of 25k including temp seating?

        I think it is 25k upto 27.5k with temporary

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        @machpants said in Stadium of Canterbury:

        @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

        just checking, is this 25k plus temp seating so 30k ish or grand total of 25k including temp seating?

        I think it is 25k upto 27.5k with temporary

        I think it's 25, and if they can find efficiencies, will be 27.5 with temp. 'hope is not a strategy' ... except here in politics

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        • KiwiwombleK Online
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          i dont want to seem disingenuous, @shark and i have gone back and forward on this, so to be clear

          I am happy enough with a lower number of permanent seats (Forsyth Barr only has 18-20K depending on your source) if thats whats needed to bring the project to an acceptable budget, my experience being you only need those upper capacities for a couple of event a year....but...you do need that ability to seat those bigger crowds for those couple of games....and...preferably there should be some scope to expand down the track

          basically, as has been said...worst of both worlds

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          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

            i dont want to seem disingenuous, @shark and i have gone back and forward on this, so to be clear

            I am happy enough with a lower number of permanent seats (Forsyth Barr only has 18-20K depending on your source) if thats whats needed to bring the project to an acceptable budget, my experience being you only need those upper capacities for a couple of event a year....but...you do need that ability to seat those bigger crowds for those couple of games....and...preferably there should be some scope to expand down the track

            basically, as has been said...worst of both worlds

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            @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

            i dont want to seem disingenuous, @shark and i have gone back and forward on this, so to be clear

            I am happy enough with a lower number of permanent seats (Forsyth Barr only has 18-20K depending on your source) if thats whats needed to bring the project to an acceptable budget, my experience being you only need those upper capacities for a couple of event a year....but...you do need that ability to seat those bigger crowds for those couple of games....and...preferably there should be some scope to expand down the track

            basically, as has been said...worst of both worlds

            Yeah, that's where I come down on this too. I thought that a Forsyth model would have been fine. They'd probably not get Springbok tests but would still one to two tests a year. With this, the conversation changes a bit. I'd personally have taken out the concourse and had a regularly 20,000 seater than than be extended to 30,000 for tests.

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              25K permanent, 36K for a concert apparently. They could have dropped the concourse on Lvl 1 and stayed at 30K seats but opted not to.

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                25K permanent, 36K for a concert apparently. They could have dropped the concourse on Lvl 1 and stayed at 30K seats but opted not to.

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                @godder said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                25K permanent, 36K for a concert apparently. They could have dropped the concourse on Lvl 1 and stayed at 30K seats but opted not to.

                Hold on, so for a big test, they could still seat 35,000? Or does that count the stadium flooring?

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                  @godder said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                  25K permanent, 36K for a concert apparently. They could have dropped the concourse on Lvl 1 and stayed at 30K seats but opted not to.

                  Hold on, so for a big test, they could still seat 35,000? Or does that count the stadium flooring?

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                  @gt12 said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                  @godder said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                  25K permanent, 36K for a concert apparently. They could have dropped the concourse on Lvl 1 and stayed at 30K seats but opted not to.

                  Hold on, so for a big test, they could still seat 35,000? Or does that count the stadium flooring?

                  https://newsline.ccc.govt.nz/news/story/new-design-direction-for-canterbury-multi-use-arena

                  I can't help but notice that options for temporary increases to game capacity are conspicuous by their absence...

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                  • gt12G gt12

                    @godder said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                    25K permanent, 36K for a concert apparently. They could have dropped the concourse on Lvl 1 and stayed at 30K seats but opted not to.

                    Hold on, so for a big test, they could still seat 35,000? Or does that count the stadium flooring?

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                    @gt12 said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                    @godder said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                    25K permanent, 36K for a concert apparently. They could have dropped the concourse on Lvl 1 and stayed at 30K seats but opted not to.

                    Hold on, so for a big test, they could still seat 35,000? Or does that count the stadium flooring?

                    Might get a bit congested with 10k seats on the field when the ABs are playing!

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                      @gt12 said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                      @godder said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                      25K permanent, 36K for a concert apparently. They could have dropped the concourse on Lvl 1 and stayed at 30K seats but opted not to.

                      Hold on, so for a big test, they could still seat 35,000? Or does that count the stadium flooring?

                      https://newsline.ccc.govt.nz/news/story/new-design-direction-for-canterbury-multi-use-arena

                      I can't help but notice that options for temporary increases to game capacity are conspicuous by their absence...

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                      @godder said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                      @gt12 said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                      @godder said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                      25K permanent, 36K for a concert apparently. They could have dropped the concourse on Lvl 1 and stayed at 30K seats but opted not to.

                      Hold on, so for a big test, they could still seat 35,000? Or does that count the stadium flooring?

                      https://newsline.ccc.govt.nz/news/story/new-design-direction-for-canterbury-multi-use-arena

                      I can't help but notice that options for temporary increases to game capacity are conspicuous by their absence...

                      OK, so tests against Fiji and perhaps Argentina then.

                      The Saders barely fill up their stadium now though, right? So the only games affected will be AB tests they won't get and Super Rugby finals?

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                        Its a fucking joke. Just a fucking bad fucking joke. Local body incompetence at its absolute finest.

                        Finally now I see people on various social media platforms coming out pissing and whining about it now the already under-sized arena has unsurprisingly shrunk. Where have these people been and why start moaning now it's shrunk by 2500-5000 seats when it was already drastically unfit for purpose??

                        The writing was on the cunting wall at least two fucking years ago. The mayor and her councillors have been thoroughly exposed now as absolute fucking donkeys (harsh on donkeys who at least have value as a labourer animal) and must be held to account over this debacle.

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                        • gt12G gt12

                          @godder said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                          @gt12 said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                          @godder said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                          25K permanent, 36K for a concert apparently. They could have dropped the concourse on Lvl 1 and stayed at 30K seats but opted not to.

                          Hold on, so for a big test, they could still seat 35,000? Or does that count the stadium flooring?

                          https://newsline.ccc.govt.nz/news/story/new-design-direction-for-canterbury-multi-use-arena

                          I can't help but notice that options for temporary increases to game capacity are conspicuous by their absence...

                          OK, so tests against Fiji and perhaps Argentina then.

                          The Saders barely fill up their stadium now though, right? So the only games affected will be AB tests they won't get and Super Rugby finals?

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                          @gt12 said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                          @godder said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                          @gt12 said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                          @godder said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                          25K permanent, 36K for a concert apparently. They could have dropped the concourse on Lvl 1 and stayed at 30K seats but opted not to.

                          Hold on, so for a big test, they could still seat 35,000? Or does that count the stadium flooring?

                          https://newsline.ccc.govt.nz/news/story/new-design-direction-for-canterbury-multi-use-arena

                          I can't help but notice that options for temporary increases to game capacity are conspicuous by their absence...

                          OK, so tests against Fiji and perhaps Argentina then.

                          The Saders barely fill up their stadium now though, right? So the only games affected will be AB tests they won't get and Super Rugby finals?

                          Will make a difference in the winter with a roof it will help the numbers for the Crusaders

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                            Its a fucking joke. Just a fucking bad fucking joke. Local body incompetence at its absolute finest.

                            Finally now I see people on various social media platforms coming out pissing and whining about it now the already under-sized arena has unsurprisingly shrunk. Where have these people been and why start moaning now it's shrunk by 2500-5000 seats when it was already drastically unfit for purpose??

                            The writing was on the cunting wall at least two fucking years ago. The mayor and her councillors have been thoroughly exposed now as absolute fucking donkeys (harsh on donkeys who at least have value as a labourer animal) and must be held to account over this debacle.

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                            @shark said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                            Its a fucking joke. Just a fucking bad fucking joke. Local body incompetence at its absolute finest.

                            Finally now I see people on various social media platforms coming out pissing and whining about it now the already under-sized arena has unsurprisingly shrunk. Where have these people been and why start moaning now it's shrunk by 2500-5000 seats when it was already drastically unfit for purpose??

                            The writing was on the cunting wall at least two fucking years ago. The mayor and her councillors have been thoroughly exposed now as absolute fucking donkeys (harsh on donkeys who at least have value as a labourer animal) and must be held to account over this debacle.

                            Fucking useless councillors it’s been a disgrace from the start,The stadium should have been built 6 years ago.
                            Penny pinching fuckwits.

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                            • ChrisC Chris

                              @gt12 said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                              @godder said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                              @gt12 said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                              @godder said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                              25K permanent, 36K for a concert apparently. They could have dropped the concourse on Lvl 1 and stayed at 30K seats but opted not to.

                              Hold on, so for a big test, they could still seat 35,000? Or does that count the stadium flooring?

                              https://newsline.ccc.govt.nz/news/story/new-design-direction-for-canterbury-multi-use-arena

                              I can't help but notice that options for temporary increases to game capacity are conspicuous by their absence...

                              OK, so tests against Fiji and perhaps Argentina then.

                              The Saders barely fill up their stadium now though, right? So the only games affected will be AB tests they won't get and Super Rugby finals?

                              Will make a difference in the winter with a roof it will help the numbers for the Crusaders

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                              @chris

                              I agree with both points.

                              I think the crucial error is that history has constantly told us that time = cost.

                              As I might end up a local, I think it will be undersized but also great for NPC and Super rugby.

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                                If you take out AB tests vs major opponents the stadium is otherwise perfect size.

                                In the NH most countries only have one test venue: twickenham, Aviva, millenium, Edinburgh etc.

                                I’d rather have atmosphere for npc and super and have the 1 AB test per year vs wallabies or springboks go to Auckland.

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                                  @chris

                                  I agree with both points.

                                  I think the crucial error is that history has constantly told us that time = cost.

                                  As I might end up a local, I think it will be undersized but also great for NPC and Super rugby.

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                                  @gt12 said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                  @chris

                                  I agree with both points.

                                  I think the crucial error is that history has constantly told us that time = cost.

                                  As I might end up a local, I think it will be undersized but also great for NPC and Super rugby.

                                  Spot on with the time= cost we were all saying that years ago,
                                  It seems the council didn’t understand that concept.

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                                  • gt12G gt12

                                    @chris

                                    I agree with both points.

                                    I think the crucial error is that history has constantly told us that time = cost.

                                    As I might end up a local, I think it will be undersized but also great for NPC and Super rugby.

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                                    @gt12 said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                    @chris

                                    I agree with both points.

                                    I think the crucial error is that history has constantly told us that time = cost.

                                    As I might end up a local, I think it will be undersized but also great for NPC and Super rugby.

                                    By the way if you do end up a local, welcome to the region.
                                    May have a beer sometime 😊

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                                      @gt12 said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                      @chris

                                      I agree with both points.

                                      I think the crucial error is that history has constantly told us that time = cost.

                                      As I might end up a local, I think it will be undersized but also great for NPC and Super rugby.

                                      By the way if you do end up a local, welcome to the region.
                                      May have a beer sometime 😊

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                                      @chris said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                      @gt12 said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                      @chris

                                      I agree with both points.

                                      I think the crucial error is that history has constantly told us that time = cost.

                                      As I might end up a local, I think it will be undersized but also great for NPC and Super rugby.

                                      By the way if you do end up a local, welcome to the region.
                                      May have a beer sometime 😊

                                      We bought land so its just a matter of time!

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                                      • gt12G gt12

                                        @chris said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                        @gt12 said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                        @chris

                                        I agree with both points.

                                        I think the crucial error is that history has constantly told us that time = cost.

                                        As I might end up a local, I think it will be undersized but also great for NPC and Super rugby.

                                        By the way if you do end up a local, welcome to the region.
                                        May have a beer sometime 😊

                                        We bought land so its just a matter of time!

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                                        @gt12 said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                        @chris said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                        @gt12 said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                        @chris

                                        I agree with both points.

                                        I think the crucial error is that history has constantly told us that time = cost.

                                        As I might end up a local, I think it will be undersized but also great for NPC and Super rugby.

                                        By the way if you do end up a local, welcome to the region.
                                        May have a beer sometime 😊

                                        We bought land so its just a matter of time!

                                        Beers with Chris in ChCh, Sake with me in Tokyo, full of bloody promises.... you sound like a local Christchurch politician...

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                                        • voodooV voodoo

                                          @gt12 said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                          @chris said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                          @gt12 said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                          @chris

                                          I agree with both points.

                                          I think the crucial error is that history has constantly told us that time = cost.

                                          As I might end up a local, I think it will be undersized but also great for NPC and Super rugby.

                                          By the way if you do end up a local, welcome to the region.
                                          May have a beer sometime 😊

                                          We bought land so its just a matter of time!

                                          Beers with Chris in ChCh, Sake with me in Tokyo, full of bloody promises.... you sound like a local Christchurch politician...

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                                          @voodoo said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                          @gt12 said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                          @chris said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                          @gt12 said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                          @chris

                                          I agree with both points.

                                          I think the crucial error is that history has constantly told us that time = cost.

                                          As I might end up a local, I think it will be undersized but also great for NPC and Super rugby.

                                          By the way if you do end up a local, welcome to the region.
                                          May have a beer sometime 😊

                                          We bought land so its just a matter of time!

                                          Beers with Chris in ChCh, Sake with me in Tokyo, full of bloody promises.... you sound like a local Christchurch politician...

                                          Ha ha, the sake with you (or anyone) can be had tomorrow. Come up!

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