Rugby League World Cup
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@bovidae
You think there's any possibility at all of them holding it without A & NZ? I don't follow league much so no idea, just assumed that with 2 of the top teams gone it would be dead in the waterThis is what I have read:
Furious World Cup officials will meet with representatives of the remaining 12 nations this weekend, as they weigh up what to do following Thursday's withdrawal. It's understood postponing until next year is the least likely option on the table, behind going ahead without Meninga and Maguire's teams or cancelling it altogether.
The UK Govt has committed money to hold the tournament this year so there is a concern they could lose that funding.
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This is what I have read:
Furious World Cup officials will meet with representatives of the remaining 12 nations this weekend, as they weigh up what to do following Thursday's withdrawal. It's understood postponing until next year is the least likely option on the table, behind going ahead without Meninga and Maguire's teams or cancelling it altogether.
The UK Govt has committed money to hold the tournament this year so there is a concern they could lose that funding.
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@bovidae So it could actually happen? England might actually have a chance of winning a world cup?
I will laugh like a drain if they end up losing to Tonga
@gibbonrib They would have to get past the might of the Isle of Man, Gibraltar, Canary Islands and Lichtenstein in pool play before encountering someone like Georgia in the quarters and PNG in the semis before they can even think about taking on the Mate Ma'a in the final.
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@canefan said in 2021 Rugby League World Cup:
@mikethesnow said in 2021 Rugby League World Cup:
@chester-draws said in 2021 Rugby League World Cup:
In two year's time, when NZ and Australia finally work out what Boris Johnson has -- that once you've vaccinated the oldies and vulnerable then any more restrictions are merely attempting to hold back the tide -- we'll open our borders. And then we will, inevitably, get a surge in cases.
At about that time will the UK League nations want to visit us? Because if I was them, I'd say no.
If these were XBox ‘athletes’ holed up in their houses I’d get it.
But we’re talking about blokes who are sweating , bleeding and breathing over each other.
Agreed. Easy to trivialise when you ain't the one being breathed, sweated or spat (wittingly or unwittingly) on. One of the doctors at our work was telling me about the Delta variant numbers. Young adults and adolescents getting really sick now. Not just an old crumbly person's disease
Sorry I wasn’t clear enough / you misinterpreted what I wrote
We’re talking about the 1% of the 1% in terms of physical fitness and wellness in the prime of their athletic careers.
If these athletes - who will be double jabbed before they leave the SH - can’t ‘tell’ COVID-19 to get fucked then the general population of Australia and NZ is fucked.
@mikethesnow said in 2021 Rugby League World Cup:
If these athletes - who will be double jabbed before they leave the SH - can’t ‘tell’ COVID-19 to get fucked then the general population of Australia and NZ is fucked.
It's not about safety. About 2 weeks ago their rumours about Australia pulling out because quarantine etc wouldn't leave enough time for proper break + proper nrl pre-season.
That was quashed by organizers. But a few weeks later they pull out for safety reasons.
Its obviously a bullshit reason, bullshit as in not the truth.
SH rugby league is effectively controlled by NRL, who are a club controlled body, not that interested in success of international league or the world cup. The ARL died in the super league war. The ARLC is a compromise replacement.
So, decision is really an NRL one, made easier by players being bubble fatigued. But its embarrassing to admit that club pre season trumps a world cup in their priorities. So, "player safety" gets trotted out.
Not sure on NZRLs motives, but their player pool is most effected by 'away from home' fatigue.
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I think it just shows how much the players really give a shit about the league “world” cup. They’re not scared of Covid, just the pain in the arse of travel, bubbles, inconvenience etc etc. I’m willing to bet they’d do it for Origin or the NRL finals, but for this? Not so much.
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I think it just shows how much the players really give a shit about the league “world” cup. They’re not scared of Covid, just the pain in the arse of travel, bubbles, inconvenience etc etc. I’m willing to bet they’d do it for Origin or the NRL finals, but for this? Not so much.
@rancid-schnitzel said in 2021 Rugby League World Cup:
I think it just shows how much the players really give a shit about the league “world” cup. They’re not scared of Covid, just the pain in the arse of travel, bubbles, inconvenience etc etc. I’m willing to bet they’d do it for Origin or the NRL finals, but for this? Not so much.
I reckon this is bang on. The international game is the peak for rugby; for league it's a sideshow.
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A very good statement IMHO from the RLPA. Players should be allowed to make informed decisions about their own participation in the forthcoming RLWC. Let the players be the judges of her much representing their nations in the tournament means to them and the trade-offs in terms of possible rewards, risks and inconvenience at doing so in a country that almost certainly won't be Covid-free.
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A very good statement IMHO from the RLPA. Players should be allowed to make informed decisions about their own participation in the forthcoming RLWC. Let the players be the judges of her much representing their nations in the tournament means to them and the trade-offs in terms of possible rewards, risks and inconvenience at doing so in a country that almost certainly won't be Covid-free.
@sparky said in 2021 Rugby League World Cup:
A very good statement IMHO from the RLPA. Players should be allowed to make informed decisions about their own participation in the forthcoming RLWC. Let the players be the judges of her much representing their nations in the tournament means to them and the trade-offs in terms of possible rewards, risks and inconvenience at doing so in a country that almost certainly won't be Covid-free.
Totally agree. Although saying the UK almost certainly won't be covid-free is like saying I almost certainly won't be the All Blacks captain at the next FIFA world cup.
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@bovidae So it could actually happen? England might actually have a chance of winning a world cup?
I will laugh like a drain if they end up losing to Tonga
@gibbonrib said in 2021 Rugby League World Cup:
@bovidae So it could actually happen? England might actually have a chance of winning a world cup?
I will laugh like a drain if they end up losing to Tonga
I reckon there's a slim chance of Tonga going, and if they do most of their NRL stars wont be there.
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@sparky said in 2021 Rugby League World Cup:
A very good statement IMHO from the RLPA. Players should be allowed to make informed decisions about their own participation in the forthcoming RLWC. Let the players be the judges of her much representing their nations in the tournament means to them and the trade-offs in terms of possible rewards, risks and inconvenience at doing so in a country that almost certainly won't be Covid-free.
Totally agree. Although saying the UK almost certainly won't be covid-free is like saying I almost certainly won't be the All Blacks captain at the next FIFA world cup.
@gibbonrib One for another thread perhaps. But I doubt given vaccination rates and antibody rates (see below) that the UK will be anything like the worse COVID effected country in the world by November. Yes, Covid will be present here but it will be a managed risk.
https://twitter.com/theosanderson/status/1418271431381733384?s=19
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@gibbonrib said in 2021 Rugby League World Cup:
@bovidae So it could actually happen? England might actually have a chance of winning a world cup?
I will laugh like a drain if they end up losing to Tonga
I reckon there's a slim chance of Tonga going, and if they do most of their NRL stars wont be there.
@nepia said in 2021 Rugby League World Cup:
@gibbonrib said in 2021 Rugby League World Cup:
@bovidae So it could actually happen? England might actually have a chance of winning a world cup?
I will laugh like a drain if they end up losing to Tonga
I reckon there's a slim chance of Tonga going, and if they do most of their NRL stars wont be there.
i know of a few island players who were hesitant to even go into NRL isolation last year, if they were going to be forced into vaccination. If this reason was cited from some NZ players this year, I suspect Tonga and Samoa will face similar problems as well
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@nepia said in 2021 Rugby League World Cup:
@gibbonrib said in 2021 Rugby League World Cup:
@bovidae So it could actually happen? England might actually have a chance of winning a world cup?
I will laugh like a drain if they end up losing to Tonga
I reckon there's a slim chance of Tonga going, and if they do most of their NRL stars wont be there.
i know of a few island players who were hesitant to even go into NRL isolation last year, if they were going to be forced into vaccination. If this reason was cited from some NZ players this year, I suspect Tonga and Samoa will face similar problems as well
@bayimports said in 2021 Rugby League World Cup:
@nepia said in 2021 Rugby League World Cup:
@gibbonrib said in 2021 Rugby League World Cup:
@bovidae So it could actually happen? England might actually have a chance of winning a world cup?
I will laugh like a drain if they end up losing to Tonga
I reckon there's a slim chance of Tonga going, and if they do most of their NRL stars wont be there.
i know of a few island players who were hesitant to even go into NRL isolation last year, if they were going to be forced into vaccination. If this reason was cited from some NZ players this year, I suspect Tonga and Samoa will face similar problems as well
Hestinacy to be vaccinated is emerging as the real reason for Oz + NZ officials pulling their sides out of the RFL Rugby World Cup.
I must know thousands of people who have been vaccinated in the UK, only know one person who has had lingering headaches. Everyone else fine within a couple of days. My advice to anyone is get your Covid vaccines as soon as you are offered.
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@bayimports said in 2021 Rugby League World Cup:
@nepia said in 2021 Rugby League World Cup:
@gibbonrib said in 2021 Rugby League World Cup:
@bovidae So it could actually happen? England might actually have a chance of winning a world cup?
I will laugh like a drain if they end up losing to Tonga
I reckon there's a slim chance of Tonga going, and if they do most of their NRL stars wont be there.
i know of a few island players who were hesitant to even go into NRL isolation last year, if they were going to be forced into vaccination. If this reason was cited from some NZ players this year, I suspect Tonga and Samoa will face similar problems as well
Hestinacy to be vaccinated is emerging as the real reason for Oz + NZ officials pulling their sides out of the RFL Rugby World Cup.
I must know thousands of people who have been vaccinated in the UK, only know one person who has had lingering headaches. Everyone else fine within a couple of days. My advice to anyone is get your Covid vaccines as soon as you are offered.
@sparky said in 2021 Rugby League World Cup:
@bayimports said in 2021 Rugby League World Cup:
@nepia said in 2021 Rugby League World Cup:
@gibbonrib said in 2021 Rugby League World Cup:
@bovidae So it could actually happen? England might actually have a chance of winning a world cup?
I will laugh like a drain if they end up losing to Tonga
I reckon there's a slim chance of Tonga going, and if they do most of their NRL stars wont be there.
i know of a few island players who were hesitant to even go into NRL isolation last year, if they were going to be forced into vaccination. If this reason was cited from some NZ players this year, I suspect Tonga and Samoa will face similar problems as well
Hestinacy to be vaccinated is emerging as the real reason for Oz + NZ officials pulling their sides out of the RFL Rugby World Cup.
I must know thousands of people who have been vaccinated in the UK, only know one person who has had lingering headaches. Everyone else fine within a couple of days. My advice to anyone is get your Covid vaccines as soon as you are offered.
I hope this isn't found in NZ rugby as well, I'm running out of teams to support.
Although that article seems to suggest that anti vax wasn't the main concern but more general safety concerns.
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@sparky said in 2021 Rugby League World Cup:
@bayimports said in 2021 Rugby League World Cup:
@nepia said in 2021 Rugby League World Cup:
@gibbonrib said in 2021 Rugby League World Cup:
@bovidae So it could actually happen? England might actually have a chance of winning a world cup?
I will laugh like a drain if they end up losing to Tonga
I reckon there's a slim chance of Tonga going, and if they do most of their NRL stars wont be there.
i know of a few island players who were hesitant to even go into NRL isolation last year, if they were going to be forced into vaccination. If this reason was cited from some NZ players this year, I suspect Tonga and Samoa will face similar problems as well
Hestinacy to be vaccinated is emerging as the real reason for Oz + NZ officials pulling their sides out of the RFL Rugby World Cup.
I must know thousands of people who have been vaccinated in the UK, only know one person who has had lingering headaches. Everyone else fine within a couple of days. My advice to anyone is get your Covid vaccines as soon as you are offered.
I hope this isn't found in NZ rugby as well, I'm running out of teams to support.
Although that article seems to suggest that anti vax wasn't the main concern but more general safety concerns.
Don't know if this interview is available where you are. The NZ League boss cites at 3.50 potential vaccine hestinancy.
https://twitter.com/TrendsFM/status/1418597202079985671?s=19
Be interesting to know in detail which safety requests he feels the RFL have not addressed.
Key point that I am yet to see answered is that Black Caps can come the UK for the inaugural Test Championship but not the Kiwis for the League World Cup. I could understand a blanket ban on NZ teams visiting the UK for sporting championships during Covid, but this pick and mix approach will damage NZ's reputation.
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Don't know if this interview is available where you are. The NZ League boss cites at 3.50 potential vaccine hestinancy.
https://twitter.com/TrendsFM/status/1418597202079985671?s=19
Be interesting to know in detail which safety requests he feels the RFL have not addressed.
Key point that I am yet to see answered is that Black Caps can come the UK for the inaugural Test Championship but not the Kiwis for the League World Cup. I could understand a blanket ban on NZ teams visiting the UK for sporting championships during Covid, but this pick and mix approach will damage NZ's reputation.
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@gibbonrib One for another thread perhaps. But I doubt given vaccination rates and antibody rates (see below) that the UK will be anything like the worse COVID effected country in the world by November. Yes, Covid will be present here but it will be a managed risk.
https://twitter.com/theosanderson/status/1418271431381733384?s=19
@sparky said in 2021 Rugby League World Cup:
@gibbonrib One for another thread perhaps
Yup, definitely veering off topic now
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Don't know if this interview is available where you are. The NZ League boss cites at 3.50 potential vaccine hestinancy.
https://twitter.com/TrendsFM/status/1418597202079985671?s=19
Be interesting to know in detail which safety requests he feels the RFL have not addressed.
Key point that I am yet to see answered is that Black Caps can come the UK for the inaugural Test Championship but not the Kiwis for the League World Cup. I could understand a blanket ban on NZ teams visiting the UK for sporting championships during Covid, but this pick and mix approach will damage NZ's reputation.
@sparky said in 2021 Rugby League World Cup:
Key point that I am yet to see answered is that Black Caps can come the UK for the inaugural Test Championship but not the Kiwis for the League World Cup. I could understand a blanket ban on NZ teams visiting the UK for sporting championships during Covid, but this pick and mix approach will damage NZ's reputation.
If remains only the League team I’ll be surprised if anyone cares too much - here or offshore…
Cynicism midway through a Warriors thrashing aside, I think it will stay only the NZ league team doing that - for everything else in the mix I think they’d find a way to be on the plane north later in the year if the Australians were going.
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Don't know if this interview is available where you are. The NZ League boss cites at 3.50 potential vaccine hestinancy.
https://twitter.com/TrendsFM/status/1418597202079985671?s=19
Be interesting to know in detail which safety requests he feels the RFL have not addressed.
Key point that I am yet to see answered is that Black Caps can come the UK for the inaugural Test Championship but not the Kiwis for the League World Cup. I could understand a blanket ban on NZ teams visiting the UK for sporting championships during Covid, but this pick and mix approach will damage NZ's reputation.
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@bones said in 2021 Rugby League World Cup:
@sparky I'm guessing $$$£££
I’m guessing the administrators said ‘fucked if I’m looking after these mongrels in iso’
@mikethesnow said in 2021 Rugby League World Cup:
I’m guessing the administrators said ‘fucked if I’m looking after these mongrels in iso’
Nah, no problem. John Hopoate retired years ago.
